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Posted: 6/23/2001 5:25:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/23/2001 5:31:12 PM EST by Striker]
OK, now I know that a gun forum is NOT the place to post porn, so I will merely supply a link... But the chic has an AR15, A1 upper it appears, so I felt that it was somehow, in a wierd and roundabout sorta way, appropriate. hehehe [blue]Well in a not so weird and roundabout way..I deleted the link because porn does not belong here.[/blue]
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 5:29:34 PM EST
Here's the poster pic for "GUN SAFETY" [img]http://www.sleazydream.com/30d/003.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 5:47:46 PM EST
Just delete the entire post.
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 5:52:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/23/2001 5:50:12 PM EST by Striker]
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 6:30:52 PM EST
Bloody Fascists! hahaha I realizde now that I should have just posted a link to the first 3 pics, that had no nudity... Oh well, live and learn. Personally, I found those pics to be FAR less objectionable than the video of that Russian Soldier. I will take boobs over videos of young guys being brutally murdered on film any day, but to each his own I guess...
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 6:50:17 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 6:53:14 PM EST
Nothing wrong with the pic. If Squire was'nt honest and the pic did'nt have a adress no harm done.
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 6:57:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By SquireSCA: OK, now I know that a gun forum is NOT the place to post porn, so I will merely supply a link... But the chic has an AR15, A1 upper it appears, so I felt that it was somehow, in a wierd and roundabout sorta way, appropriate. hehehe [blue]Well in a not so weird and roundabout way..I deleted the link because porn does not belong here.[/blue]
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Thank You Striker for protecting me from "links." If you had not gotten rid of it I may not have been able to control myself. I might have seen porn. And then I would surely commit some kind of felony. We are all safer without "links." And bayo lugs, and flash hiders, and collapsable stocks, and freedom, and free thought.........
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 7:03:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/23/2001 7:02:59 PM EST by SquireSCA]
I just thought it was funny, that's all... A friend of mine sent me a link, and the email was titled "Is this your wife?" hehehe He knows I am a gun nut, and also a moderate fan of boobage... That was why I did not post the pics themselves here, just a link, with a warning of what they were... Oh well, no harm no foul. How about I just imbed a pic? One that has NO nudity or anything objectionable, it is merely a pic of a woman holding an AR15... Here is one, totally clean, and rated "G" so if you have kids in the room, you need not worry. Oh well, the damned link does not work, so forget it... All you horny gun-loving guys will just have to wonder about what you missed out on! haha
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 7:18:56 PM EST
SquireSCA, do me a favor and email me the link(the original one that was removed)so I can pretend I'm a grown up.
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 7:21:37 PM EST
Can you mail me that link too.... my wifes not looking right now so it will be OK... honest...
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 7:36:54 PM EST
!!!!!!!!DO NOT ENTER THAT SITE! IT CONTAINS A VIRUS! LUCKY I HAD NORTON!!! NO BULL! DO NOT ENTER THIS SITE(SLEAZYDREAM.COM)THANK GOD FOR NORTON!!!!
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 7:53:17 PM EST
Surfer, what are you talking about? A virus in the site itself?? What is the name of it? I am scanning with Norton 2000 as we speak, but so far it has found nothing... For the rest of you guys requesting the link, not until I verify that there is no problem with that site.
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 7:55:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 7:55:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By SquireSCA: Surfer, what are you talking about? A virus in the site itself?? What is the name of it? I am scanning with Norton 2000 as we speak, but so far it has found nothing... For the rest of you guys requesting the link, not until I verify that there is no problem with that site. it was a play on words to get the site post back here.
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Link Posted: 6/23/2001 8:01:40 PM EST
You rat bastard! LOL I am updated my Nav Def files and scanning my entire network as we speak because of a goof?? Damn you, damn you to hell! hehehe Actually, I thought that perhaps it was a java script running on the page, adding URL's to your favorites, and Norton saw it trying to make a change and sent up a red flag. I have heard of some sites doing that before... You crazy kids...
Link Posted: 6/23/2001 10:15:07 PM EST
Squire, I would never, never joke about somthing like that. My norton flaged me grabed the virus and threw it into quarantine. I sent it off to norton to get rid of it. what kind? is their a good kind? I get flaged I dump it as fast as it came. Norton should get back to me to tell me what I had. Do you really want to know? I dont as long as I dont have it anymore.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 12:15:14 AM EST
drama...........and no porn...........this sucks......................................
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 12:33:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By 007: drama...........and no porn...........this sucks......................................
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my sentiments exactly.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:22:07 AM EST
It's wrong to have porn on this site. BUT we do have a drug forum section now because thats more appropriate! something is WRONG here.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:30:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 5:00:54 AM EST
I fully agree with SteyrAug. We have posts of some poor smuck getting a knife run thru his neck and discussions about drugs and everything else under the sun but better protect us from seeing the ole bearded clam! Egad! Thanks![whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whack­o][whacko]
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 5:47:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 6:14:11 AM EST
I'm siding with Ed and the mods on this - this site is private property and the owners have every right to determine the content. That doesn't make them facists, it makes them the owners. I thought this had been corrected with the launching of the "other" site. Things have been a lot more civil around here lately so why go back? Thanks Ed!! And yes, I like to look at naked ladies with guns as much as anyone else - and I can go find those pics and see them if I'm in the mood. That's what makes the internet such an amazing thing.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 6:27:18 AM EST
I ran Norton and found no virus on my system, and my friend checked it out, his was clean as well. Whoever wants the link, email me and I will send it... LOL I actually am curious as to what AR15 variant he has... And she has great legs too! haha
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 7:17:05 AM EST
Originally Posted By SquireSCA: OK, now I know that a gun forum is NOT the place to post porn, so I will merely supply a link... But the chic has an AR15, A1 upper it appears, so I felt that it was somehow, in a wierd and roundabout sorta way, appropriate. hehehe [blue]Well in a not so weird and roundabout way..I deleted the link because porn does not belong here.[/blue]
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Post it on [url]http://ubb.mcuzi.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=11[/url] You will be welcomed and praised over there.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 7:39:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By SquireSCA: Whoever wants the link, email me and I will send it......
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Yes. I would like to have that terrible link. [beer] By the way, you should be ashamed of yourself by not sending it to me already!! [>(] Damn YOU!! Damn YOU!! How dare you even try and keep me from viewing a beautiful woman with a weapon!! You should have your membership TERMINATED on the spot!! (Shhhh, I here the Gestapo coming) DK [:D] P.S. Let's see...... where's my papers...... hmmmm...... uhhhh...... Yep, I'm Free, White and over 21!! Cool!!
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 8:58:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By gus: I'm siding with Ed and the mods on this - this site is private property and the owners have every right to determine the content. That doesn't make them facists, it makes them the owners. I thought this had been corrected with the launching of the "other" site. Things have been a lot more civil around here lately so why go back? Thanks Ed!! And yes, I like to look at naked ladies with guns as much as anyone else - and I can go find those pics and see them if I'm in the mood. That's what makes the internet such an amazing thing.
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Yes, I see your point Gus and EdAvillaSr. The Davidians were on their private property too. They also got to decide their "content" too didn't they? I guess it didn't make them facists it made them owners too huh? Oh never mind! I just got that sour grape taste in my mouth...bad mood too! sorry..
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 9:17:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/24/2001 9:15:33 AM EST by Striker]
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 10:16:33 AM EST
The mods are wrong on this one... though it's their site so I'll respect the decision. The link was labled for what it was and we are all adults here, morality police be damned. We regularly discuss things on this site that the general public would consider reprehensible. One does not need to see a russian soldiers head nearly removed to know that war is disgusting and brutal, but there it was anyway. In the same vein as that, if someone posted the rape of a chechen woman by a russian soldier, would you keep that up as another testament to what atrocities we (as human beings) exact upon one another in times of war, or would you take it down as "porn"? Don't get me wrong, I do not want to see any of the things I just mentioned, but I do want to point out the disparity between the things that are acceptable here and the things that are not. This will never become a porn site, the nature of members here would never allow it, as I think we're ahead of the average American in terms of our own morality and ability to self-police. IMHO, we do not need a moderator to tell us what is appropriate or what is not. The link was labled, not splattered as a pic that someone unsuspecting could happen upon, and whomever saw it MADE A CONSIOUS DESCISION to go to that site, despite the disclaimer. I thought the purpose of this forum was to encourage discussion, which it has certainly done, although I doubt this is what z71rat originally intended.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 10:29:24 AM EST
Striker is right, there's a difference between nudity and porn. The link that was posted was definitely porn. There's a place for that stuff not far from here, but I agree it really has no place on our forums. nudity = OK within reason, under certain circumstances. porn= not OK.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 1:44:53 PM EST
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=32405#lastPost this one ED
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 2:19:16 PM EST
It's really rather simple. The Avila's have invited us into their house with the understanding that we will abide by their rules. If we become unruly or don't abide by their wishes we will be shown the door.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 2:48:13 PM EST
THIS A PRIVATE SITE ! WE ARE ALL GUESTS HERE ! Thanks to ed and anti and G boy ! If you don't like it - go away ! [chainsawkill]
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 3:30:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 3:40:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/24/2001 3:43:46 PM EST by PowderBurns]
Jeez, I read the rules and they say that nudity is OK if a warning is provided. MOREOVER, the nudity was NOT posted on this site, only a link. As for "the difference between nudity and pornography" . . . The US Supreme Court can't agree on the difference. How then is the moderater herein able to discern what the US Supreme Court cannot? I thought we had a First Amendment. Speaking of which, and taking a shot at (aha! "shot" a gun term, it's NOT off topic) sounding the depths of the First Amendment . . . Take a look at Chatropolis.com (not a link nor a porno post) -- uncensored chat with html capacity. There's a "general topics" section should you be aghast by the "adult topics." I damn near died defending the Constitution. I'd be willing to kill someone over it. (Been there. Done that -- before.)
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 3:46:54 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/24/2001 3:53:39 PM EST
Close-ups of penetration = porn, in my book.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:02:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:09:23 PM EST
To the mods, it really wasn't my intention to start something. Just a knee jerk reaction to people who would suppose to decide for me. That said I really do understand this is YOUR forum and I appreciate being here. But please bear in mind a few things. Due to the military/leo make up of this forum it will ALWAYS exist in reality. For this reason harsh/graphic images will ALWAYS make their presence. I really do appreciate and respect that you are trying to run a "respectable" forum. This is the reason I have ALWAYS posted here and more or less ignored AK47.net. But again, we are mostly freedom loving people who live in and deal with the real world. So there will always be the occassional photo from rotten.com, etc. Please consider it the price of freedom(like putting up with Louis Farrakans stupid ass). I honestly believe that the members here do a decent job of "self moderation" out of respect for the site. Blatant violantions are few and far between and usually the work of trolls and not regular members. Also, I think there is resistance to percieved "censorship" due the the large moderator to member ratio. Having said that the mods are pretty cool. I actually like Striker, even though I kind of called him out. I would have done the same to Treetop who I consider a "bud". So what I am asking is that you consider the source. Treat troublemakers like troublemakers and members like members. If Frank the Spank posts something kinda messed up, remember Frank is a good egg when all is said and done. And if I or another member posts the occasional "boobie" with fair warning as to content please let it go. I really have NOT seen anything too far gone as far as pics. But I do have to wonder about the original post HERE being edited and a post about "dropping acid" running it's course. Not that I think that one needed heavy regulation either. Just suprised by and concerned for the members who advocate use of these substances.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:22:27 PM EST
I think that people are really to uptight about this. This is not a question of whether or not it was porn. IT WAS. But, we are adults after all, and it was merely a link, with a WARNING, click at your own risk. If you are religious, have kids in the room, or are otherwise opposed to such things, DON'T CLICK THE LINK. That being said, if the powers that be in this forum want it removed, while we may think it silly in light of other posts recently, it is still their forum, we don't have to like it, but their house, their rules. The point is not even whether the pics were tasteful or porn, or if it showed penetration... It was supposed to be a GOOF, for laughs, as she was holding an AR15 while she was doing this guy... It was supposed to be a pleasant diversion for a few moments, something to laugh about, not something to start a 2 day controversy... Jeeze...
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:25:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By z71rat: DK [:D] P.S. Let's see...... where's my papers...... hmmmm...... uhhhh...... Yep, I'm Free, White and over 21!! Cool!!
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hey, heY, hEY, HEY! You *KNOW* you're not allowed to make disparaging remarks about your freedoms here... Or is Grin still on the other forum? You might be safe, here. Later, J(DELETIOUS-1)C
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:30:22 PM EST
I don't see the reasoning behind any argument on this. We are using someone else's site. They have asks us to only post appropriate things. We should respect that plain and simple. I just thought of this as well.... If someone linked to a site where child porn was or something similarly bad you would be putting these guys at risk legally I would think. If someone wants to see porn with guns like was originally posted they should start an e-mail thread and exchange links via e-mail only. Personally I couldn't care less for the porn factor but Bikini chicks with guns are cool to me. John
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:30:47 PM EST
I think all sides have had a chance to bring up their points. I'm locking this thread so we can consider it "over with", and be done with it. Like I've said before, I've really got no problem with porn(as some of you from the "other" site will attest). I just feel very strongly that it doesn't belong on AR15.com. I've got a great amount of pride in this place, and I'd like to continue to for a LONG time... Thanks.
Link Posted: 6/24/2001 4:31:27 PM EST
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