Posted: 8/6/2006 2:49:48 PM EDT
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Hey guys, I and fellow officer are in need of another method of carry for our glock 27s. We are in a small department and believe it or not we are the only two that carry back-ups so our fellow officers are no help in this area. We are both using uncle mike's IWB holsters and putting them on our left side on our vests under our patrol uniform. As you can imagine it is not the most comfortable way to wear but we are not to excited about ankle holsters as we haven't really seen a good one yet. Any thoughts or ideas? |
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I know a lot of guys that carry a G27 using a holster attached to the left side of their vests for a cross draw. Not sure exactly how they are attaching it. I think they are using the carrier straps. One guy had his wife sew the holster directly onto the carrier. Another popular option is doing something similar with one of those airweight titanium revolvers. |
| I have a B.U.G. (back up gun) holster. It is attached directly to the front of my vest carrier. It is essentially a pocket that the gun goes in and then it velcros closed. There is a layer of Kevlar that then goes over the gun. It is not noticeable when worn under the uniform shirt. Unfortunately I don’t know who sells them anymore. I purchased mine from caliber press. |
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I have the solution you are looking for. I too used an inside the waistband/belt clip holster and the metal j hook wears a whole in your shirt in about a month. Go to 5.11 and get their back up gun holster. It uses a 6x5 (or something similiar) velcro pad and a moveable/adjustable sleeve. The sleeve is of the shape of those yaqui style holsters and has the other half of the velcro combination on it's outer side. you then slide your G27 into it and place it on your carrier where you would like. I carry it under my left arm. A squad mate has his up front in the center of his chest. If you wear the 5.11 BDU style pants, which have velcro inside the cargo pockets, you can actually put your back up in there as well. I don't like that idea though for reasons most would not carry on their ankle as well. I had my tailor sew some velcro, 3" strips, onto the left side carrier straps to keep the holster more snug. I also ditched the retention strap that comes with the holster. I've gone through windows and over fences head first and never had the gun pop out. I wouldn't want to fumble with that velcro retention strap when I really needed to get to my BUG. 5.11 is you answer. And it's cheap too, I think about 14 bucks. |
Have your wife sew a heavy duty zipper to the left side inseam under the arm pit. Have her sew the unit so it zips down. Place a 2-3 inch strip of para cord through the zipper loop, this will aid in grasping the zipper making it easy to unzip. The para cord will not be seen because it rides up in your arm pit. Position your back up holster inside the shirt for an easy draw. Use what ever holster you like. You can also apply this to the ankle holster. The zipper speeds up the draw and keeps you from fumbling with your pants. Dont use the para cord on the pants though, it might give you away. This method works really well. Hope this helps 
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I have your solution. Gimme an hour or so and I'll find the link where you can buy it and try to get a photo up. Dont' have time now, I'm at work and just finishing my shift. Gotta log off. Ok here goes. Uncle Mike's Body Armor Holster   The vertical strip of velcro you see that runs the whole length of the holster is attached only at the top and bottom. You slide your body armor side straps through. The way they picture it used has the body armor straps slid through the strap and the holster outside the straps. I hated that way, as the gun/holster flaps around too much. The secret is to run the straps outside the holster/gun and through the outside strap, not the inside one. The body armor straps then pull the gun into the vest nice and snug. I carried a G27 in one of these for several years. The only real downside is the rear right side of the slide/sights would eventually wear my uniform shirts out but you could prevent that I suppose by having an extra piece of material, possibly even heavy duty canvas, attached inside your shirt where the gun would rub. Size 4 fits the G27 |
I use one of these also with a Beretta 9000SD with a cross draw under my shirt. In order to easily get to it, I simply unbutton one of my shirt buttons after roll call  so my boss doesn't get pissy about it. Once my boss noticed it, he asked and was cool with it after explaining (just not in roll call).The holster works great, but to snug it in, I have the vest strap go around the outer side of the holster instead of the underside. Stays nice and snug. This is a no brainer, but train with it so you don't forget it is there in the heat of battle. |
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When I was in Patrol, I carried my G27 in a Galco ankle holster. Was very comfortable and there was no need for the upper calf strap. I could run, whatever with it on no problems. Once I got used to the gun on my ankle I didn't even notice it and felt naked without it being on there. I strapped the holster around the outside of my boot. I also had a Uncle Mikes soft vest holster as posted and my uniforms were zippered and not buttoned. I still prefered the ankle rig. Just my preference however. Picture of the Galco 
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I've carried my 27 in a Renegade ankle holster for years. The nice thing of it is, they will make the strap bigger to wear over your boot. The only problem I ever had with it, every now and then when I'm riding shotgun the velcro will catch on to the carpet on the face of the Crown Victoria's seat - a minor inconvenience. I've tried the vest holsters, I didn't like them. they made me look like I had a goiter or something. My Renegade has served me well, God willing I imagine it will take me into my retirement. My companion  Renegade's address: Renegade P.O. Box 31546 Phoenix, AZ 85046 Tel: 602-482-6777 Fax: 602-482-1952 |
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Thanks for the help guys. I really like the idea of the Uncle Mikes and think I will try that. Question for you ankle holster guys. My worry about the ankle holster is getting a scrap and the the bad guy ending up at your ankles. Now I realize this is unlikely because if I lose control of the situation to were he is at my ankles I must have done soemthing wrong, but doesn't it worry you? Also doesn't th eankle holster bulge the bottom of the trousers to much or do the good ones fit snug against the leg? Thanks for the help and stay safe out there!! |
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+1 for the ankle holster. I use the galco ankle glove pictured above for my 27. It fits just around the top of my boot and doesnt move at all. Took a week or so to get used to the extra few oz. around one ankle, but now it is unnoticeable. If in a scrap the BG gets near enough to my ankle and grabs the gun - well, I'll treat that the same way as if he's going for my primary. I'll shoot him. As far as bulging - not really.... as long as your pants aren't tailored 'sailor tight' then the gun fits in just above your ankle bone - not really obtrusive. I'm a fan - I think it works better for me than dealing with a zipper or button front uniform B/U holster. Plus - sitting down in the cruiser, the ankle holster is a little easier to reach than my primary, because that's covered by the seat belt or the other junk around the console. |
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+1 on the Galco Ankle Glove. I conceal a 3 inch Para Ordnance .45 and it does just fine wrapped around a boot. It is very secure (I added some more velcro strapping). Other than the attachment to the front of your vest (which isn't made anymore), I find no other way to conceal in uniform as good as this. I contacted Calibre Press a while back, asking about their BUG... they don't make it any longer. VJ |
| I carry a Kel-tec P11 9mm in an Uncle Mike's Sidekick ankle holster. I also carry a Kel-tec P32 using a belly band around my vest. I use the belt clip on the P32 to keep it in position on the band. The band is tight enough that the gun stays in place without problems. I've carried both this ways for a few years now without any problems. |