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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:09:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2016 12:26:14 PM EDT by retgarr]
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.

ETA:

Made my choice. Read on if you like, but it's a total shit show just like every other election thread.

Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:10:22 AM EDT
Hillary shill.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:10:51 AM EDT
Imagine if everyone thought that way....
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:11:48 AM EDT
what about Johnson attracts you?

The open borders or the absolute hatred of organized religion or the use of the federal government to force people to like each other or the abject ignorance on everything.

Trump represents actual change to the federal government. Johnson represents a hippie version of an omnipotent government changing society to be more "tolerant"
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:12:03 AM EDT
Vote Trump and write a letter to the editor.

God damn, folks. You can't know that the polls mean dick right now. The future of the SCOTUS is on the line. Send a message other than firing your last shot into the berm when you can see the whites of the eyes of the enemies who are on their way to rape your children.

Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:12:05 AM EDT
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we would have a nation of abject morons.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:12:08 AM EDT
Johnson is a stiff...
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:14:08 AM EDT
Don't worry scro , lotta tards lead kickass lives.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:14:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.

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I would like to have seen Rand as well. Being from KY and having watched his political career grow, I think he's a good representation of "the rest of us". However, I think his soft-spoken nature and his father's shadow impacted him.

That said, I've accepted that this is a two party system and to vote outside of it is not to vote at all. Complaining that my guy didn't win the party primary and throwing my vote away is cutting off my nose to spite my face. You have two choices for a winner in this election : Trump or Hitlery. Choose the one that is closest to your values and where you want this country to go, and vote.


Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:14:56 AM EDT
sad that liberals have infested every place in America
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:16:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MongooseKY:

I would like to have seen Rand as well. Being from KY and having watched his political career grow, I think he's a good representation of "the rest of us". However, I think his soft-spoken nature and his father's shadow impacted him.

That said, I've accepted that this is a two party system and to vote outside of it is not to vote at all. Complaining that my guy didn't win the party primary and throwing my vote away is cutting off my nose to spite my face. You have two choices for a winner in this election : Trump or Hitlery. Choose the one that is closest to your values and where you want this country to go, and vote.




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Originally Posted By MongooseKY:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.


I would like to have seen Rand as well. Being from KY and having watched his political career grow, I think he's a good representation of "the rest of us". However, I think his soft-spoken nature and his father's shadow impacted him.

That said, I've accepted that this is a two party system and to vote outside of it is not to vote at all. Complaining that my guy didn't win the party primary and throwing my vote away is cutting off my nose to spite my face. You have two choices for a winner in this election : Trump or Hitlery. Choose the one that is closest to your values and where you want this country to go, and vote.





If you've really been following party politics, you know that in nationals the Republican party leadership has fucked the Paul's in every primary. Here in Texas the state party leadership put out a false story that Ron Paul had dropped out of the race the day before the primary in 2012, he hadn't. In New Hampshire they fucked him in '08
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:16:36 AM EDT
If Johnson was an actual libertarian there might be a reason to vote for him. But he isn't, so fuck him. It's kind of odd, but the Republican candidate is the only anti establishment candidate on the ballot. No he isn't perfect, no he isn't a constitutional conservative, but he is closer to the Constitution than anyone else on the ballot.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:18:22 AM EDT
The only people I know who support or are voting Johnson are druggies and Pot Heads.

So which are you?
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:18:59 AM EDT
Johnson is not a libertarian. Your vote for Trump adds to the popular vote Tally.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:19:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By guntrk:
The only people I know who support or are voting Johnson are druggies and Pot Heads.


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don't forget morons.

there is significant venn overlap, of course, but they are still discrete communities.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:19:47 AM EDT
johnson is a fucking idiot ...

johnson is a waste of .... well .... everything
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:20:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2016 10:21:37 AM EDT by efpeter]
I would encourage you to vote for Donald Trump.

The higher the popular vote he wins, the more the Republican establishment will have to address their internal issues*.



*ETA: or simply relegate themselves to whatever democrats want to write about them in history books.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:20:34 AM EDT
You have two choices

Hilary

Trump

Anyone else and you may as well just not vote.

Serious
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:21:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sylvan:
what about Johnson attracts you?

The open borders or the absolute hatred of organized religion or the use of the federal government to force people to like each other or the abject ignorance on everything.

Trump represents actual change to the federal government. Johnson represents a hippie version of an omnipotent government changing society to be more "tolerant"
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I like that he annoys you.
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Originally Posted By hushpuppy:
johnson is a fucking idiot ...

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I guess I don't have much more to add!
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:21:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:22:26 AM EDT
Seriously! - Johnson belongs in a rubber room so he can bounce off the walls!
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:22:35 AM EDT
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We can't all be arrested adolescent potheads
Somebody has to go out and work and get things done.

Voting for Johnson is supporting hilliary - whether you intend to do so or not. There is too much at stake.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:22:54 AM EDT
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johnson is a fucking idiot ...

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Same could be said about Trump in my opinion.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:23:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2016 10:26:39 AM EDT by Jim85IROC]
Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.

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Some of you pro-trump nuthuggers should at least pay enough attention to see what state the OP is in. There's no way in hell that Vermont will be anything other than a Hillary state, so essentially the OP's vote (and mine) don't matter, other than to help strengthen a 3rd party option for future elections. One interesting thing about Vermont, for as liberal as it is, is that we have a history of supporting 3rd party candidates more than in any other state. Just because somebody doesn't support Trump doesn't mean that we're pro-Hillary shills, or whatever such nonsense that some of you keep pushing.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:23:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By retgarr:


I like that he annoys you.
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Originally Posted By retgarr:
Originally Posted By Sylvan:
what about Johnson attracts you?

The open borders or the absolute hatred of organized religion or the use of the federal government to force people to like each other or the abject ignorance on everything.

Trump represents actual change to the federal government. Johnson represents a hippie version of an omnipotent government changing society to be more "tolerant"


I like that he annoys you.


Donald Trump really annoys liberals.

Sticking a thumb in the eye of people who literally want to harm you seems appealing.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:23:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JQ66:



We can't all be arrested adolescent potheads
Somebody has to go out and work and get things done.

Voting for Johnson is supporting hilliary - whether you intend to do so or not. There is too much at stake.
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Originally Posted By JQ66:
Originally Posted By vetmotox:
Imagine if everyone thought that way....



We can't all be arrested adolescent potheads
Somebody has to go out and work and get things done.

Voting for Johnson is supporting hilliary - whether you intend to do so or not. There is too much at stake.


Let's try this one more time. Trump will NOT win Vermont.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:24:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:24:04 AM EDT
Ask yourself this.....Does Johnson have any real chance at winning?

Sorry but the answer is No. Third parties historically dont do well.

Its Trump vs the beastly criminal who would clearly destroy
what is left of our Constitution.

Do you you really want to piss your vote away on such a pivotal election?
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:24:17 AM EDT
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VT keeps electing a Socialist. No surprises from OP here.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:25:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JQ66:



We can't all be arrested adolescent potheads
Somebody has to go out and work and get things done.

Voting for Johnson is supporting hilliary - whether you intend to do so or not. There is too much at stake.
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Originally Posted By JQ66:
Originally Posted By vetmotox:
Imagine if everyone thought that way....



We can't all be arrested adolescent potheads
Somebody has to go out and work and get things done.

Voting for Johnson is supporting hilliary - whether you intend to do so or not. There is too much at stake.

Anything but voting for mangohead is a vote for hitlery.

Who the fuck wants to see her in the WH?

Eveybody get over yourselves and fucking vote for mangohead.

Sheesh.
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Originally Posted By BangStick1:
Ask yourself this.....Does Johnson have any real chance at winning?

Sorry but the answer is No. Third parties historically dont do well.

Its Trump vs the beastly criminal who would clearly destroy
what is left of our Constitution.

Do you you really want to piss your vote away on such a pivotal election?
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Johnson has the same chance at winning the national election as Trump does of winning Vermont.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:26:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By efpeter:


Donald Trump really annoys liberals.

Sticking a thumb in the eye of people who literally want to harm you seems appealing.
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Originally Posted By efpeter:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Originally Posted By Sylvan:
what about Johnson attracts you?

The open borders or the absolute hatred of organized religion or the use of the federal government to force people to like each other or the abject ignorance on everything.

Trump represents actual change to the federal government. Johnson represents a hippie version of an omnipotent government changing society to be more "tolerant"


I like that he annoys you.


Donald Trump really annoys liberals.

Sticking a thumb in the eye of people who literally want to harm you seems appealing.


That really is why I have this dilemma.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:27:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By retgarr:


Let's try this one more time. Trump will NOT win Vermont.
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Originally Posted By retgarr:
Originally Posted By JQ66:
Originally Posted By vetmotox:
Imagine if everyone thought that way....



We can't all be arrested adolescent potheads
Somebody has to go out and work and get things done.

Voting for Johnson is supporting hilliary - whether you intend to do so or not. There is too much at stake.


Let's try this one more time. Trump will NOT win Vermont.


Why vote at all? Defeatist.
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Originally Posted By Jim85IROC:

Some of you pro-trump nuthuggers should at least pay enough attention to see what state the OP is in. There's no way in hell that Vermont will be anything other than a Hillary state, so essentially the OP's vote (and mine) don't matter, other than to help strengthen a 3rd party option for future elections. One interesting thing about Vermont, for as liberal as it is, is that we have a history of supporting 3rd party candidates more than in any other state. Just because somebody doesn't support Trump doesn't mean that we're pro-Hillary shills, or whatever such nonsense that some of you keep pushing.
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Originally Posted By Jim85IROC:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.


Some of you pro-trump nuthuggers should at least pay enough attention to see what state the OP is in. There's no way in hell that Vermont will be anything other than a Hillary state, so essentially the OP's vote (and mine) don't matter, other than to help strengthen a 3rd party option for future elections. One interesting thing about Vermont, for as liberal as it is, is that we have a history of supporting 3rd party candidates more than in any other state. Just because somebody doesn't support Trump doesn't mean that we're pro-Hillary shills, or whatever such nonsense that some of you keep pushing.



Don't reward the LP for nomination a non libertarian.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:29:02 AM EDT
Johnson is anti-gun. A vote for Johnson is a vote against the Constitution
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:29:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By retgarr:


Let's try this one more time. Trump will NOT win Vermont.
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Originally Posted By retgarr:
Originally Posted By JQ66:
Originally Posted By vetmotox:
Imagine if everyone thought that way....



We can't all be arrested adolescent potheads
Somebody has to go out and work and get things done.

Voting for Johnson is supporting hilliary - whether you intend to do so or not. There is too much at stake.


Let's try this one more time. Trump will NOT win Vermont.

That mentality is what keeps states a deep blue for so long. People decide to satisfy their ego and vote for a mickey mouse candidate or stay home because there is "no chance" .

Guess what Johnson doesn't stand a chance to win a single state. So you can be a retard and waste your time trying to trigger people online all you want... just know your mentality is what is wrong with this country.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:30:26 AM EDT
That's not entirely true. A close general vote will give the dems ammunition for recounts.

A blowout will make them crawl back down in their holes.


Watch these videos if you still have reservations about voting for Trump.




Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:31:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2016 10:32:48 AM EDT by spacemanvic]
It really is this simple:

Want to keep your guns and 2A rights?

Vote Trump.

Anything else leads to Hillary.

Loss of Supreme Court as she appoints Justices
Loss of 2A
Loss of guns

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Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:31:20 AM EDT
Has Johnson called Hillary and most of elite democrats CORRUPT to their faces?
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:31:42 AM EDT
Stupid question.......
Hillary or Trump??? That is the question.
Send a message to both sides vote Trump.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:32:08 AM EDT
I would have been better off not reading the OP.

You sound like a conflicted 13 year old girl who lacks critical thinking skills.

Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:33:08 AM EDT
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Don't reward the LP for nomination a non libertarian.
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Originally Posted By Jim85IROC:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.


Some of you pro-trump nuthuggers should at least pay enough attention to see what state the OP is in. There's no way in hell that Vermont will be anything other than a Hillary state, so essentially the OP's vote (and mine) don't matter, other than to help strengthen a 3rd party option for future elections. One interesting thing about Vermont, for as liberal as it is, is that we have a history of supporting 3rd party candidates more than in any other state. Just because somebody doesn't support Trump doesn't mean that we're pro-Hillary shills, or whatever such nonsense that some of you keep pushing.



Don't reward the LP for nomination a non libertarian.


That's a good point.
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Hillary shill.
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yup, and we are doomed because of this exact attitude


and then there will be the "I'm not going to vote because...." crowd
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:35:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.

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This is the kind of thinking that is making Utah a battleground state.

As stated above, vote Trump and then write letters to the editor.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:36:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane:


This is the kind of thinking that is making Utah a battleground state.

As stated above, vote Trump and then write letters to the editor.
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Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.



This is the kind of thinking that is making Utah a battleground state.

As stated above, vote Trump and then write letters to the editor.


I would definitely be voting Trump if I still lived in Utah.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:38:01 AM EDT
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https://youtu.be/TW5gQo43ay4

Watch this video and tell me you would pull a lever for him.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:38:41 AM EDT
it really is simple:

If you want Trump to win, vote for Trump.

If you want FHRC to win, vote for ANYONE ELSE.

If you want to 'make a statement', wear a button while you vote, then find a 'safe space' to talk about how cool you are.


Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:39:21 AM EDT
If you think this election is liberals vs conservatives then you haven't been paying attention. This election is rich elite establishment versus the voters. Hillary stole the election from Bernie, because the establishment wanted her. Jeb was supposed to win, which is why the establishment dumped 150 million into his primary. The GOPe is now working against Trump and helping Hillary that is why Ryan, McConnell, McCain, Romney, and Graham are all telling people not to vote for Trump. That is also why George H Bush endorsed Hillary and the entire Bush family said they won't vote for Trump.

The only way a 3rd party becomes relevant is when the establishment allows it.

Watch this short clip where the GOPe laughs at the voters while saying it is up to the elite to determine who really becomes President.

https://youtu.be/SkYbBStofDo


Link Posted: 10/24/2016 10:40:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By retgarr:
So here's the deal. I don't really like Trump. I dislike Johnson, but I dislike him less. Now if I lived in a state where there was any doubt about who was going to win, I would reluctantly vote Trump. But that's just not the case.

My reasoning on voting Trump would be to stick it in the eye of the super liberal Burlingtonistas. Give him a stronger showing in order to piss them off a bit ya know? But I think Johnson has a chance of a double-digit showing too. And that's also a message I'd like to send. I tend to be a Republican with libertarian leanings really. The Libertarian party is a fucking mess. My choice overall for president would have been Rand Paul.

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Watch Trunps Gettysburg speech from the other day, then watch any number of instances where Gary Johnson says something... you'll have zero desire to vote for Johnson over Trump
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