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Posted: 12/5/2001 6:27:39 PM EDT

Texas is rated a C by the anti's
Gotta love Vermont though with their F- for their CCW laws.

Check it out [url]http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.asp?Record=99[/url]

Oh and for those of you that think CA does not have CCW, think again.

Posted: 12/5/2001 6:40:59 PM EDT

[#1]

Washington Failed, I fear for my life now because now I know that there are gun toting, law abiding citizens walking around armed to the teeth with a semi-auto, high capacity, loaded with thug killing bullets, oh the horror, the horror.

Posted: 12/5/2001 6:41:01 PM EDT

[#2]

Washington F
no law enforcement discretion
no safety training required
requires background check

I love my home state. For as many liberals as we have it is amazing that Washington is as gun friendly as it is.

Kyle

Posted: 12/5/2001 6:47:26 PM EDT

[#3]

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That's cause they are all just living in Seattle drinking coffee and listening to grunge music. The rest of the state is living in reality [:)]

Posted: 12/5/2001 6:51:22 PM EDT

[#4]

This is kind of dated... Still shows how they must deal in lies, lies, lies. In my state, it says that there is no background check... HUH? Gee, I remember getting fingerprinted, paying for and getting a reciept for the extensive background check.

Posted: 12/5/2001 6:55:09 PM EDT

[#5]

D+ for FL. Yeayyyyyyy!!
Anything they rate bad is great to me.

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:03:46 PM EDT

[#6]

Maryland got a B. My state sucks. I asummed to get an A you needed to require training as well as have all the other restrictions Maryland placed on CCWs. But after reading the rest, I discovered that only states that have no CCW for anyone ever period received their 'A' grade. I think that shows their true colors right there. In their view, a well trained individual, who goes through a background check, is restricted to carrying only during certain times/locations, and has to have a "may issue" reason submitted to the govt for approval should not be able to carry a gun?!?!?!?!

That means in their view cops shouldn't be allowed to carry firearms while on duty.

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:11:29 PM EDT

[#7]

damn, i live in a B state. that leaves a nasty taste im my mouth.

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:11:38 PM EDT

[#8]

Hahahaha!

Indiana got an "F"!!!! WE KICK ASS! [}:D]

[uzi][peep] [50][marines]

Tyler

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:11:52 PM EDT

[#9]

something is wrong with their ratings. Last year alabama got a d. No changes this year at all we got b- WTF?!

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:12:04 PM EDT

[#10]

South Carolina got a D+. That was in Dec 1997. Now that we have a new Demo-rat governor and a state police that ignore the shall-issue CCW laws, they'd probably give us a B.z

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:15:05 PM EDT

[#11]

California: B

law enforcement has discretion

license may include reasonable restrictions as to where and when a person may carry

no safety training required

CONTACT: Luis Tolley 310-446-0056; fax 310-475-3147

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The discrestion of law enforcement in my 'hood is you got to be the mayor, councilman, or wife of one of them or a cop to get a CCW.

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:23:38 PM EDT

[#12]

And of course, NJ has an A-, explaining our extremely low crime rate.

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:32:22 PM EDT

[#13]

Virginia is KICKING BUTT with a D-.

No law enforcement discretion, if you have a clean record its a shall issue state.

HA HA HA HA HA HA

Bite me Sarah Brady.

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:33:28 PM EDT

[#14]

What the hell is a "minimal backround check"???
Do they just look at the wall behind you?? Or look to see if you have any disqualifying charges in the last day???
Boy are these people warped!!!
(They forgot to mention that in NC, military non residents can get CCW, as I'm sure it is in most CCW friendly states!!)

[smoke]

Posted: 12/5/2001 7:51:31 PM EDT

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
LMAO!!!

How dumb do some people have to be to not realize what you just pointed out.

Posted: 12/5/2001 8:24:30 PM EDT

[#16]

Alabama does indeed do a background check. Well, that or the local sheriff's department sure made phone calls and had me wait for 15 minutes just for show. And I imagine we will be moving way down the list now that we have a reciprocity agreement with about 10 states or so. Finally, something the state government did that I actually like!! Here's to becoming a D!!

WWoodworth

Posted: 12/5/2001 8:30:55 PM EDT

[#17]

Sheesh, it's a 1997 report. No wonder it's a little bit off.

Utah - we got a d- woohoo. Now all we need to do to get an F is drop the licensing requirements for CCW and be just like vermont. Actually, I think we should go for the gold and attempt to get an F---- by droping the ccw requirements AND voiding the 1934 NFA laws. [;)]

[uzi]

- CD

Posted: 12/5/2001 8:57:23 PM EDT

[#18]

I have figured it out:

A -- No CCW
A-, B+, or B -- Near Impossible To Get CCW
B-, C -- Restrictive CCW
D+, -- Shall Issue With Background Check and Training
D- -- Shall Issue Without Extensive Training
F -- Shall Issue Means Shall Issue
F- -- No License Required

I checked out their Congressional Feature. Makes mw feel good to know that the two people who will decide (assuming Republican maintain the Majority in 2002) whether or not to even hear Gun Control have a straight Red Mark right across the board. Dennis Hastert and Tom DeLay have voted 100% against the HCI position.

Unfortunately, Jeff Miller hasn't been around long enough to have a mark. But, I did get a response from his (RE: Several Letters Regarding Pro and Anti Gun Legislation) office saying he supported the 2nd fully. It even stated our position that criminals will not follow the law.

Unfortunately, the area I grew up in (Deutsch/Wexler) has the shittiest Congressmen around. They voted straight across the board whatever their HCI masters told them to.

Posted: 12/5/2001 9:33:03 PM EDT

[#19]

ILLINOIS SUCKS!!!!!!

Posted: 12/5/2001 9:41:12 PM EDT

[#20]

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And of course, NJ has an A-, explaining our extremely low crime rate.

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Norm:
This face makes me feel very safe and secure!

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Posted: 12/5/2001 9:42:50 PM EDT

[#21]

goddamn wisconsin.

Posted: 12/5/2001 10:00:02 PM EDT

[#22]

F for Pennsylvania. All right

Posted: 12/5/2001 10:03:28 PM EDT

[#23]

I get the feeling these people would rather have a state with an A rating and a soaring murder rate, rather than a state with a F rating and a sharply declining murder rate.

Posted: 12/5/2001 10:06:18 PM EDT

[#24]

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Gotta love Vermont though with their F- for their CCW laws.

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... must answer why their crime rate is so high.
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Posted: 12/6/2001 6:34:26 PM EDT

[#25]

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Gotta love Vermont though with their F- for their CCW laws.

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... must answer why their crime rate is so high.
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That and its to freaking cold up there for the most part of the year to come out and do any harm to someone else. [;D]

Posted: 12/6/2001 6:49:47 PM EDT

[#26]

I am sure Ohio will plummet to an 'F' as soon as the ban gets tossed and we have Vermont style.

Posted: 12/6/2001 6:54:50 PM EDT

[#27]

WA might have got an F for CCW but we can't have any class III weapons [:(!], and God for bid any auto knives. We can get suppresors but it's illegal to use them in the state, figure that one out.[>:/]

Posted: 12/6/2001 7:06:11 PM EDT

[#28]

I hate those bastards!

-Data collection. Small bonuses are awarded to states that collect and make available data on crimes and unintentional shootings by CCW licensees, as well as demographic information.

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WTF? A lollipop? They can stick it up their A$$!

Posted: 12/6/2001 7:08:53 PM EDT

[#29]

Based in Washington, D.C., HCI works with law enforcement, public health, religious, and community groups across the country to strengthen and protect federal, state and local gun control laws, but does not seek to ban all guns.

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What guns do you seek to ban? Why do we have pukes like this on our planet?