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Posted: 8/29/2004 12:19:19 AM EST
As much as you hate us...

This is where 60% of all the olympic medals come from...
Camp Pendalton is here....
This is where you watch those stupid tv shows...
This is where ALL the movies you watch come from...
Most of your weapons come from Southern Californa or based here...

Anything else???

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:23:37 AM EST
The fifth largest economy in the world...
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:28:13 AM EST
Seems like a magnet for every freak, nutcase, and safetyNAZI in the known universe...
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:30:46 AM EST
California is a awesome state, it's just a shame your politicians suck more than most.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:32:25 AM EST
Nancy Pelosi (SP)
Barbara Boxer
Diane Feinstein

Disclaimer: I was born and raised in CA.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:33:45 AM EST
i live here. that is awesome in itself
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:36:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:

Most of your weapons come from Southern Californa or based here...




i don't think i have one weapon that was made in CA.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:58:18 AM EST
Minus the fruits and nuts we still have more gun owners than other states
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:59:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By inferno715:

Originally Posted By John91498:

Most of your weapons come from Southern Californa or based here...




i don't think i have one weapon that was made in CA.




The AR15 rifle was DESIGNED HERE!!!!!!!!!



More...Edwards AFB

Travis AFB

and even more AFB bases.

Rice, Cheese, Almonds, porn, wood products, computers, rice, FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS


And women


SGtar15
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:18:44 AM EST
Except for three counties, California would be a solid Republican, gun totin' stronghold.

And one other thing. Every time a news article reports some real crackpot, nutty left-wing outrage; the name Berkely is attached to it.

Regards,
Mild Bill
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:20:04 AM EST
And the MAJORITY of the left wing liberal wackos here came from OTHER states!


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:38:43 AM EST
The unions are the major problem in the Bay Area.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:41:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By mattja:
The unions are the major problem in the Bay Area.




That and WIllie Brown....talk about corrupt!

And the teachers union is the #1 reason this state is so fucked. They are pure evil and VERY wasteful. The California budgets over 50% towards teaching...and our kids are STILL stupid!


SGatr15
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:42:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Cheese

SGtar15



now hold on for just a minute.. cheese? we all know which state is the dairy state.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:44:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By inferno715:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Cheese

SGtar15



now hold on for just a minute.. cheese? we all know which state is the dairy state.




WI USED to be the daily state.


Now California DOMINATE the market.


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:47:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
And the MAJORITY of the left wing liberal wackos here came from OTHER states!


Sgatr15



i don't know..i've known a few fruits who immigrated here from CA.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:48:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

WI USED to be the daily state.


Now California DOMINATE the market.


Sgatr15



that's sad if it's true.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:50:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By inferno715:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

WI USED to be the daily state.


Now California DOMINATE the market.


Sgatr15



that's sad if it's true.




Read it and weep


www.agmrc.org/dairy/info/ccpdairyproducts.pdf


SGatr15
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:12:13 AM EST
Well you still have your "Cheese Head" status...!




Rankings


• California ranked No. 1 in the nation in
milk production, followed by Wisconsin,
New York, and Pennsylvania.

• California ranked fourth in milk
production per cow at 21,180 pounds,
following Arizona, Washington and
Colorado. The U.S. average milk
production per cow was 18,571 pounds.

• California continues to lead the nation in
the production of butter, nonfat dry milk,
cottage cheese, ice cream, and whey
protein concentrate.

California is second in the nation in total
cheese production at 1.72 billion pounds,
following Wisconsin’s 2.23 billion pounds.
Many experts predict California will soon
be the leading cheese producing state
.


• California is the largest producer of
Hispanic-style cheese, producing 78
million pounds and 20 different varieties.


Facts & Highlights

• California’s total milk production was
nearly 35 billion pounds, 20.5 percent of
all milk produced in the U.S.


• The five leading counties in milk
production, in ranking order were: Tulare,
Merced, Stanislaus, San Bernardino, and
Kings. Collectively, these five counties
accounted for 67 percent of all milk
produced in California.


• There are 2,153 dairy farms in California
housing 1.64 million milk cows, or
approximately one out of every six cows in
the U.S. is from California.


• California produces approximately one out
of every five pounds of cheese produced
in the U.S.


• The average size dairy herd in California is
776 cows per farm.


• California produces more Monterey Jack
than any other state. This cheese is
considered a “California original,” a
descendant of a type of cheese produced
in the California missions more than 200
years ago.


Cheese Production
in California for 2002
years and the sales of milk and cream
continue to be an important commodity,
generating $3.8 billion in 2002. California
milk and dairy product production continue to
roll forward. During a year of uneventful
weather patterns and steady (although more
costly) energy availability, milk production
soared to nearly 35 billion pounds. To put
that figure into perspective, consider this —
California’s milk production in 2002 was
greater than the combined milk production of
Idaho, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico and
Texas.

Tulare County, the leading milk
producing county in California at nearly 9
billion pounds per year, produced more milk
than any of these states. From 2001 to 2002,
California’s milk production increased by 1.67
billion pounds; the increase alone was greater
than the total production of 21 states!


California is more than the leading milk
producing state. It also leads all other states
in production of butter, nonfat powder,
cottage cheese, and ice cream.

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:14:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By inferno715:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

WI USED to be the daily state.


Now California DOMINATE the market.


Sgatr15



that's sad if it's true.




Read it and weep


www.agmrc.org/dairy/info/ccpdairyproducts.pdf


SGatr15



However we still make better cheese.

But really I don't give a shit about that, cuz I can still buy a .50 next year if I want to and it don't have to be registered, my ARs and AK don't have to be registered. I can buy an handgun I want I'm not stuck with on some list thats approved by a corrupt, inept government.......

Perhaps it's time the Cali government learned exactly what the 2nd amendment is realy about.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:18:05 AM EST
Why is Tennessee so windy?



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<­BR>



Because Calif. sucks and New York blows.


Just messin' with ya'll,LOL.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:18:22 AM EST
and pretty soon California will belong to Mexico again. I'm serious, there are groups out there whose sole purpose is to try and reclaim lost land to Mexico. Once they get enough illegal immigrants there, they'll just start an uprising. Wait another 15years........the southwest is in real trouble.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:19:53 AM EST
Land of fruits nuts and flakes.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:22:21 AM EST
best climate (coastal)
best scenery
best restuarants
best city (Santa Barbara) lived there for 6 yrs.
best bass fishing
best activities
WORST GOVERNMENT
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:23:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By A2sights:
and pretty soon California will belong to Mexico again. I'm serious, there are groups out there whose sole purpose is to try and reclaim lost land to Mexico. Once they get enough illegal immigrants there, they'll just start an uprising. Wait another 15years........the southwest is in real trouble.



aztlan.net/

www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:24:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
As much as you hate us...

This is where 60% of all the olympic medals come from...
Camp Pendalton is here....
This is where you watch those stupid tv shows...
This is where ALL the movies you watch come from...

Most of your weapons come from Southern Californa or based here...

Anything else???




Don't know if I would BRAG about those 2 things....
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:24:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By MTUSA:
best climate (coastal)
best scenery
best restuarants
best city (Santa Barbara) lived there for 6 yrs.
best bass fishing
best activities
WORST GOVERNMENT



Best bass fishing? this from a person in florida? Ya'll got abig ol lake down there that is know for big ass largemouth and you think Cali has better bass fishing? Wow
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:35:31 AM EST
bass fishing. hmmph. we call that baitfish. now this is a fish;


you have these in CA? didn't think so.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:48:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 4:51:03 AM EST by Noname]

Originally Posted By inferno715:
bass fishing. hmmph. we call that baitfish. now this is a fish;
www.hunt101.com/img/064274.jpg

you have these in CA? didn't think so.





LOL...!

Well kinda-sorta. Some joker planted Pike in a lake a few years ago and the Dept of F&G has been trying their damnest to eradicate them (to no avail).





www.dfg.ca.gov/northernpike/
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:01:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
As much as you hate us...

This is where 60% of all the olympic medals come from...



so? score higher on academic tests than Singapore, Korea or Sweden, THAT would be impressive. Some dude from Malibu gets a gold medal in surfing? who cares?


Camp Pendalton is here....


and there are plenty of facilities around the country. NORAD is in Colorado. Which would you rather have?


This is where you watch those stupid tv shows...


Wrong. A good show draws maybe 10 million viewers. That means 285 million people are NOT watching the latest crap TV show and are doing something else, which gives me hope for this country. Maybe most of the viewers are fellow Californians.


This is where ALL the movies you watch come from...


see above ("TV" & "crap")


Most of your weapons come from Southern Californa or based here...


not a one here.


Anything else???


Cali does seem to lead the way in making the US a haven for illegal aliens (you guys are employing them as your maids & cooks & & auto detailers & lawn maintenance specialists, maybe because you are too lazy to clean up after yourselves, cook your own meals, wash your own cars or cut your own grass. Personal responsibility is an anethema in California, perhaps that is why people like Larry Flynt, Madonna & Barbra Streisand call it home.

The nation would be better off if Cali would secede (we'll take the economic hit, our values are worth more than California dollars)
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:02:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By Noname:

Originally Posted By inferno715:
bass fishing. hmmph. we call that baitfish. now this is a fish;
www.hunt101.com/img/064274.jpg

you have these in CA? didn't think so.





LOL...!

Well kinda-sorta. Some joker planted Pike in a lake a few years ago and the Dept of F&G has been trying their damnest to eradicate them (to no avail).

www.dfg.ca.gov/northernpike/images/gravidfemale.jpg



www.dfg.ca.gov/northernpike/



mmmmm pike.
One of the only fish I will eat pickled. It can be good fried too.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:05:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 5:07:32 AM EST by inferno715]
uh guys...that is a musky in (my) the picture. photoman, drop and give me 20 for not realizing that.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:18:49 AM EST

"I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:27:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:27:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By inferno715:
uh guys...that is a musky in (my) the picture. photoman, drop and give me 20 for not realizing that.



True it is, but it's a pike in noname's pic, thats what I was responding too.

I think I got to take a trip to grandmas soon and hit the lake for some musky and pike. it's been awhile since I've been fishing.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:29:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:30:38 AM EST
just making sure photoman. carry on.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:56:14 AM EST
we have some of the most violent crimes committed
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:01:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
As much as you hate us...

This is where 60% of all the olympic medals come from...
Camp Pendalton is here....
This is where you watch those stupid tv shows...
This is where ALL the movies you watch come from...
Most of your weapons come from Southern Californa or based here...

Anything else???




1. It is probably now Colorado as that where most train.
2. Camp Pendalton is not here... but Camp Pendleton is and is right next to Oceanside which is right next to my hometown, Carlsbad.
3. True, for some reason, many TV shows are still produced in CA in and around the Burbank area. I wonder why our state laws have not chased them out... maybe liberals like rolling in their own scheeit.
4. Most movies are produced out of state now.
5. No longer true. Southern California use to be a manufacturing base for firearms. THe anti's dubed the area as "the ring of fire" and systematically wiped most of them out.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:02:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
Nancy Pelosi (SP)
Barbara Boxer
Diane Feinstein

Disclaimer: I was born and raised in CA.



Ronald Reagan.



Richard M. Nixon
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:17:20 AM EST
PRK has some great stuff. Truly beautiful and diverse state, speaking on an ecological point of view.

Unfortuantely, once you live there you understand fully why people either HATE the place or love it. I lived there for 8 years. After 5 I was pretty well jaded about the place. When I first moved there I thought it was the closest I'd ever come to heaven. By the time I left I realized I'd actually been closer to hell.

You couldn't drag me back there kicking and screaming. And I used to live 3 blocks off the coast in Montara. Right by the Charthouse. Beautiful place-ask any of the northern PRK members here.

Obnoxiously expensive. Stuck up, self centered, pretentious and materialistic people.

I never met more people with college educations that were dumb as a box of rocks, common sense wise. People that were totally LOST changing a tire but they sure as hell could tell you how many gallons your swimming pool held by measuring it. (I just read the owner's manual)

There's several places I'd buy homes if I won the lottery for a shitload of money.

California IS NOT one of them.

There ARE some great people there and I mean no offense to them, because they know exactly what I mean.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:11:16 AM EST
Electoral votes.

CW
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:21:42 AM EST
The women...

I'm talkin about the ones in the other "silicon Valley" down south
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:30:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
As much as you hate us...

This is where 60% of all the olympic medals come from... and your point is?
Camp Pendalton is here.... thats because they still allow the military to have firearms, just not citizens
This is where you watch those stupid tv shows... and your point is?
This is where ALL the movies you watch come from... and your point is?
Most of your weapons come from Southern Californa or based here... not any of mine either

Anything else???


Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:33:16 AM EST
there is no other state I would want to live in other than CA.

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:37:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 9:04:19 AM EST by Paul]
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:52:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By Merrell:
Cali does seem to lead the way in making the US a haven for illegal aliens (you guys are employing them as your maids & cooks & & auto detailers & lawn maintenance specialists, maybe because you are too lazy to clean up after yourselves, cook your own meals, wash your own cars or cut your own grass. Personal responsibility is an anethema in California, perhaps that is why people like Larry Flynt, Madonna & Barbra Streisand call it home.

The nation would be better off if Cali would secede (we'll take the economic hit, our values are worth more than California dollars)





Let me see, yupp, FEDERAL problem. The state is forbidden from handling immigration issues. When state and local police arrest illegals they just let them go because the federals refuse to take them. Let me see, yupp, I clean my own house, cook my own meals, wash my own truck, and cut my own grass. You're just being straight up ignorant if you think that Calfornians employee more personal help then other states. Ever been to Denver, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, New York, or Houston? I see plenty of illegals on the streets there I guess they're just visiting from LA huh?

It is the FEDERAL government that is responisble for border control. Look at Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona - all are over run with illegals coming across the border tens of thousands a night. Wait until some Al-Quidia terrorist bring down the Sears Tower in Chicago or detonate a nuke in Columbus Ohio and finally, after more than 30 years of bitching the southern border states will get the attention. How many millions will have to die before George Bush, and the entire congress finally notice the problem with an open border. All four states senators and congressment (including our dynamic duo of Fineswine and Boxer) have been bitching and nagging for decades.

The larger cities of Texas and California are stressed to the breaking point with paying for the housing, medical, and schooling of the illegals but the federal government fails to hold the borders. I'm willing to bet all four states would set up their own border patrols if the feds would allow it. We'd come out a head on tax dollars I'm sure. California spends $5,000,000.00 every year on illegals - that's more than the entire budget of some states. I just hope that too many Americans aren't going to have to die before their dumb ass senators and ass wipes like Assa Hutchenson (who doesn't come from California either) get off their collective fat asses and do something. Plenty of Americans already die - plenty of cops too - at the hands of the illegals.

I do which the other states would take care of their own problems rather then sending them here - Madonna's from Michigan I remember after a Michigan poster when off about how that Californian Maddona did this or that - too funny. We do need to set up state check points and start sending liberals back to where they came from - damn carpetbaggers. We didn't have that problem here when Ronald Regan was running the state. Barbra Streisand is from Broklyn New York by the way. I didn't want to surf though all the porn sites buy I'll bet that Larry Flint wasn't born here either. If you're rich enough to afford the best life then you do buy a homes where the weather, entertainment, and social life is best matter not what state you were born and raised in. Many stars have homes here, in Florida, and in New York as well - so your point is? None of the pricks you mentioned were Californians - only carpetbaggers. Charlton Heston calls California his home and so did John Wayne, and Ronald Regan - so?

If you think that the liberalism of states like New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, and New Jersey came from here you're sadly mistaken once again. Where do you get your political information from? Of course one of California's own was President recently - Bill Clinton was born and raised in the small town of Hope ... wait a minute. The current ultra-liberal canidate John Kerry was also born and raise just outside of that famous California city of ... hang on. But John Edwards his vice-presidential ... no it was Al Gore ... a Hillary, ah, Charles Metezenbaug - I mean Chuckie Schumer, ah Jim Brady ... Janet Reno ... Louis Freeh ... Ted Kenedy ... ah shit. Sure the major liberal television networks ABC, CBS, NBC have there main studios here in New York City ... OK CNN that liberal basition of trash is here in Atlanta ... OK the Million Moron Mothers started here, held their first big march here and have their office here in DC - never mind. OK the Brady Campaign to Stop Violence - wait - the Stop the NRA Campaign - never mind - ah the ... the ... Ten Commands was taken from that courthouse here in ... shit ... Waco .... ah Ruby Ridge just north of ... Ophra and Jerry Spring both broadcast from ... damn

There ia some good that comes from the most powerful state in the Union - stealth fighter technology and other advanced military technology, the personal computer, the AR-15 was invented here, huge bio-medical research, and the real estate tax revolution (prop 13) started here. Billions of dollars of Californian tax payers money does leave the state and never comes back going to the other states who can't make it on their own so that's paying for schooling of kids who otherwise wouldn't have it as good. (gratitutous do it for the children)

Get your head out of the sand and out from in front of the television and start paying attention to what's really going on if you want to become a better citizen. I have never understood the false pride that comes from attacking other's problems. Never. It's like kicking some kid when his been beaten down by the school bully. Why do people do that? That's a sick part of someone's mind. Do I laugh and flaunt my ability to get a CCW license or to even own a handgun to those in New York and Chicago - no and not many people do. But when something of a much smaller scale happens in California all the babboons in their cages start a howling and slinging shit - it has happened for the four years that I've been moderating this forum.

I am never amazed at how ignorate, stupid, and cruel gun owners here can be.

I am not a Californian. I do live here under the Presidents orders - it was here or Fort Levinworth Kanasas and they've got winters that I don't do and besides I don't look good in black and white stripes with some guy named Bubba holding my hand. I was born in Minnesota, lived here back in the 60's as a child before being raised in suburbs of Chicago. After joining the Navy I've moved around a bit but mostly stationed here. I have learned lots in my travels.

If you think that the problems in your family, your home, your city, and your state are because of California you are sadly wrong. Don't blame someone else for your failure. It is a natural thing to do because taking blame for your own failures is difficult but it is a waste of time. I have plenty of friends here whose children's values are stellar - they are trustworthy, polite, kind, obediant, attend church or temple every week, are moderate in their speech ... how could it be possible that these families have moral values while located here in the very belly of the beast yet ones around you are having trouble? Could it be that they value crap more then that value their own children? Could it be that they're more involved with chasing the dollar rather than raising their own off spring? Or did that too come from California? Many television shows due come from California but a majority by a HUGE margin of the producers, writers, and actors come from the other states - opps. Personal responsibily means taking the responsibility personally and not blaming a bunch of other people a thousand miles away for your own personal failure.

It would seem that most people here are not aware of how politics let alone the government works. There are people here who think Californians push their gun control laws on other states. There are people here that think a majority of Californians support the efforts of the liberals that have ahold of this state. There are people here who think that Californians don't have the most assualt weapsons of any other state - outside the hundreds of thousands that got lost in tragic boating accidents and didn't get registered. People here aren't voting for Boxer and Fineswine because of their stance on gun controll because - wait for it - only gun nuts like us are one issue voters. They're voting for the dynamic duo because their women, becuase they support abortion, gay rights, de-criminalized drugs, because their labor unions tell them to and for the dozen other liberal portions of the adgenda. If it were only about guns this state would be very conservative.

One last thing I've also noticed as I've been on terminal leave the last few weeks. I've been watching Jerry Springer (a Buckey broadcating CHICAGO!) I don't think they'd have much of a show without all the fine people they pull from the tralior parks here in California. You can hear their accents though their toothless mouths ... wait a minute.


Like shooting fish in a barrel.




Ya what he said!!
Very well done Paul
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 9:07:59 AM EST
I was born & raised in the SF bay area.

Bolted after finishing school in the late '70's.

I go back to visit family about once every 2 years. Each time I go back I think to myself, 'My God, what a cesspool this place has become.'

If it wasn't for family, I'd never go back there again.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 9:13:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
California is a awesome state, it's just a shame your politicians suck more than most.



You know if people from other states stayed out of here we might be in better shape.

Some of the ones I know for sure that were not born here:

Nancy Pelosi: Maryland
Barbara Boxer: New York
Maxine Waters: Missouri
Gray Davis: New York
Michael Roos: Tennesse

Too bad I can't pawn Feinstein as coming from somewhere else.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 9:20:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By stator:

Originally Posted By John91498:

This is where 60% of all the olympic medals come from...



1. It is probably now Colorado as that where most train.



I think his point might have been that California is where they were from, not where they trained.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 9:21:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 9:23:45 AM EST by Dog1]
Having the misfortune of staying there for 2 miserable weeks...you can keep it...

As far as I'm concrened it can slide into the sea....only after our AR15.com members, the ones worth a damn, get out...then...shore front property in AZ!!

WORST STATE EVER
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