There are at least three types of Drivers licenses in California.

Valid unexpired licenses that predate the Real ID act.
Valid unexpired licenses issued after the Real ID act took effect, but before California started issuing REAL IDs.
Real ID Act compliant licenses.

CAL-DOJ has submitted emergency regulations, effective July 1, 2019 that all Firearm and Ammunition purchases will require the purchaser have a "Real ID" license or ID card.

ETA: there’s been some backpedaling by DOJ and now it appears the only licenses they will not accept are the ones marked federal limits apply.

This will go over really well in court.

Weird how you can't place an undue burden of requiring ID for someone to exercise their right to vote but you can to exercise their right to exercise their 2nd amendment rights.

Just sayin'

I’m waiting on the ATF to mandate the same.

Which ones are good for voting in CA?

The constitution is just a suggestion now.

So illegals aliens can not buy ammo now?  That is racist.

^^^^^
Dems would never win another election if voters were ID'd. And in turn, republicans would be pissed because they'd have no one to pretend to stop the shit they push.
If repubs came out tomorrow and said they hated guns, and all should be banned, the Dems would be fighting to keep them.

LOL I doubt they're even ID'd when they buy it.

but illegals can still get a Driver's License, right?

LOL. my license will expire before any court overturns this.

all and or none.

yes.

Stop with the nilly willy bullshit, and just go for the all out ban, lets get this party started, and take back commifornia!

Do they require REAL ID to vote?

While I disagree with what they are doing, why not go get a RealID compliant DL?

What about all the blacks?  Every one knows they are unable to get a gov issued ID, right?

No id  required to vote.

Which is bullshit!

It's because they don't show up in the photos.



Don't ban me!

Because some people have a problem with the idea that citizens of a country need a special I.D to exercise an enumerated constitutional right, while the same government that would tell them that also says that those were breaking the law just by being here don't need a special ID in order to help usurp law through illegal voting?  I'm just spitballing here.

I suspect that they realized they created a " loophole" that would allow illegals to purchase ammo, thereby setting themselves up for more embarrassment when an illegal kills a soccer mom.

I got my real ID with 6 years left on my license in NC.

This.

I hope judge upholds CA’s new rule change and that judge attaches a ruling that ONLY Real ID licenses are valid for voting too.

It isnt that people dont want the real ID, it is going to be required for flying and shit after all.

It is that California has dragged it's feet and fucked upnthe roll out of a real ID compliant ID.

Many people tried to get them and wound up being screwed by not having the required documents or having to jump through a ton of hoops.   And yet Ca sometimes still fucked it up.

That's stupid. I got mine in about fifteen minutes at the DMV.

The progressive elite in both parties would join hands and sing kumbaya while voting to remove our rights in fractions of a second after the winning vote from the GOP slid over the line.

For progressives, permanent power trumps temporary power.

No ID required to vote.

Daily reminder that there is no rule of law. Act accordingly.

Appointments are about 90-days out and even with an appointment you're looking at spending half the day in line, retaking the written test, paying $35.00.

Yeah, if i still lived in Michigan i could walk into the Secretary of State in my small town, wait in line behind a couple people and have a Real ID in an hour.

In California the DMV lines go outside the building and around the block.

Do people who believe in conservative values, really believe their vote has any value in California? So why bother voting? With all the illegals who vote and the other liberals voters it will never change. At least in anyone’s life time, that is alive today.

Last time I went, there were at least a handful of people at the DMV who were missing a required form during their DL renewal and just settled for the drivers licenses for illegals. When you wake up at 6 to wait outside the DMV until 8 am, you don't feel like doing it again the next day.

Eta: I got a notice in the mail a few weeks ago saying I didn't provide all the necessary forms, and that my realid would be revoked if I didn't sign their piece of paper and send it back in. It's a big joke.

ID is required in Va and has been for as long as I can remember. We have been getting our asses stomped for at least 10 years, with the death blow coming this November.

Real voter ID?

Just sayin...

The ca dmv is as close to purgatory on earth as you can get.

On the plus side, illegal aliens can't get Real IDs so that should effectively ban them from buying ammo at any stores in CA

Good thing i ordered a passport card, i can use that until i get a real id in a few years.

Link to CA-DOJ stating this?

Well other states did not have the deck stacked against them like W did to Virginia.

How many pro-2nd Amend groups are standing by with Federal lawsuits?  You know if it was a loosening of gun regs, a dozen Leftist groups would have had suits pre-written

Got mine a few months ago.

Because tomorrow there will be yet another hoop to 'why not just do __________ that they are requiring'.

Case law exists. No-one in California will file suit because... reasons?

This is my prediction as well, California really fucked up on this one. If I didn't get a realID, I would be livid right about now.

So glad I'm putting this state in my rearview soon.

Came to post this!

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/06/18/california-gun-ownershave-to-jump-through-hoops-because-the-state-gave-ids-to-ill-n2548538

The California Department of Justice on Monday filed an "emergency regulations" proposal. If adopted, Californians would be required to have REAL IDs to purchase firearms and ammunition beginning on July 1. The proposal is being made despite the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives previously saying Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) could continue to non-federally compliant driver's licenses and identification cards.

If a person doesn't have a REAL ID, buyers are required to provide documentation, in conjunction with their non-REAL ID, showing they're legal citizens and are allowed to possess a firearm.

Acceptable forms of documentation include:

(1) Valid, unexpired U.S. passport or passport card.

(2) Certified copy of U.S. birth certificate.

(3) U.S. Certificate or Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen.

(4) Valid, unexpired foreign passport with valid U.S. immigrant visa and approved Record of Arrival/Departure (I-94) form.

(5) Certified copy of birth certificate from a U.S. Territory.

(6) Certificate of Naturalization or U.S. Citizenship.

(7) Valid, unexpired Permanent Resident Card.

If a person's name is different between the driver's license and the documentation they provides, the applicant has to prove there was a name change.

Acceptable documents include:

(1) An adoption document that contains the legal name of the applicant as a result of the adoption.

(2) A name change document that contains the applicant’s legal name both before and, as a result of, the name change.

(3) A marriage certificate.

(4) A dissolution of marriage document that contains the legal name of the applicant as a result of the court action.

(5) A certificate, declaration or registration document verifying the formation of a domestic partnership.

(6) A dissolution of domestic partnership document that contains the legal name of the applicant as a result of the court action.

Because the California DOJ filed this under an "emergency regulation," the public participation process is limited to five days.

When a person gets a driver's license or ID card, their identity is supposed to be verified. That's why it's been an acceptable form of identifying someone for so long. When someone applies for their license they have to take in a birth certificate, provide their fingerprint and verify their identity. California opened themselves up to a can of worms when they began issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Now the state's IDs are no longer federally compliant.

The reason the IDs are no longer federally compliant is because of Assembly Bill 60, which gave driver's licenses to illegal aliens. In fact, the American Conservative Liberties Union of Northern California provided a guide for illegal aliens who have licenses under AB 60 because other states and federal jurisdictions don't recognize their ID as legitimate.

These are the documents that are acceptable for non-federally compliant IDs:

• Certifed [sic] copy of a U.S. Birth Certifcate  [sic] (issued by a city, county, or state vital statistics offce  [sic]).

• Valid/unexpired U.S. Passport or U.S. Passport Card.

• U.S. Certifcate [sic] of Birth Abroad or Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen.

• Federal Proof of Indian Blood Degree (issued by U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs).

• Military Identifcation [sic] Card, Common Access Card (Active Military, Active Reserve, or Active Selected Reserve), or DD-214.

• American Indian Card.

• U.S. Citizen Identifcation [sic] Card.

• Certifcate [sic] of Naturalization or Certifcate [sic] of U.S. Citizenship.

• Northern Mariana Card.

• Mexican Border Crossing Card with a valid I-94.

• Canadian birth certifcate. [sic]

• Valid/unexpired Permanent Resident Card/Resident Alien Card.

• Temporary Resident Identifcation [sic] Card.

• Nonresident Alien Canadian Border Crossing Card.

• Valid/unexpired foreign passport with an approved Record of Arrival/Departure (I-94).

Gun owners are now having to jump through hoops, at the last minute, because California decided to meddle down the identification process and provide driver's licenses to anyone and everyone. Now California gun owners are being forced to get REAL IDs because the state wanted to treat everyone as a citizen.

Real ID is the "National ID Card" that we were told would never happen in this country.  Federally mandated style and information and a check against your SSAN (not to be used for ID).

Pennsylvania had a nice and easy to read format with fairly large type.  All the new licenses are hard to read and look like crap.

I don't think you need any ID to vote in CA

Your not my supervisor

Real ID is gross