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7/21/2001 11:07:23 AM EDT
OK, I need to have my memory refreshed.  And get the answer to me in Chi-bonics plz.    

If a fellow owned:
1)  1997 Post Ban purchase Colt Match "target" rifle   with about 10 hi cap mags

2) A Browning Hi power purchased in 1994 with another 10 or so hi cap mags

3) A 1981 manufacture pump action shotgun with non-removable extended magazine

4) Ruger 10/22, 1988 manufacture with hi cap mags

How many times would he have broken the law upon reaching the agricultural produce checkpoint in Northern Cal with the intention of living in Riverside?  

Thank you,

The Coal Fungus

7/21/2001 11:11:06 AM EDT
[#1]
If he's carrying all that stuff, loaded, he's broken the law of Gravity.
Oh, yeah, Chi-bonics:  "It's like, Dude, like the world SUCKS, Dude, that's that Gravity thing, it's WAY too much!"
7/21/2001 11:16:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Jesus Maria,

Who said anything about carrying the stuff on foot.  I am using a pedicab to migrate down I-5.  That's it, no people from the City on the Hill area allowed on this miserable thread.  Isn't Connecticut going to annex you or something?  
7/21/2001 11:18:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Only if they get a couple of bad ice cubes in their drink first. [;)]
7/21/2001 11:21:36 AM EDT
[#4]
@#*&ing Connecticut Clam Diggers...

Some day I aspire to live in New Haven, or even better New London.  
7/21/2001 11:23:28 AM EDT
[#5]
Shoot for the bottom, go Bridgeport!
7/21/2001 12:35:57 PM EDT
[#6]
I don't know whether you'd be able to serve your sentences concurantlly or not.

1) 1997 Post Ban purchase Colt Match "target" rifle with about 10 hi cap mags
-- not permitted in the State of California unless registered by December of 2000.

2) A Browning Hi power purchased in 1994 with another 10 or so hi cap mags
-- not permitted in the State of California as it hasn't passed safety testing.

3) A 1981 manufacture pump action shotgun with non-removable extended magazine
-- possibly allowed, don't know about pistol gripped shotguns.

4) Ruger 10/22, 1988 manufacture with hi cap mags
-- the gun is legal, the magazines are as long as you don't loan them, trade them, sell them, give them to anyone. If you die in the state they have to be buried with you or destroyed [:)].

I am not a lawyer, this is not to be taken as legal advice etc. see [url]http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms[/url] for the ugly truth of how wrong on state can get when led by liberals.
7/21/2001 2:06:04 PM EDT
[#7]
Holy Crow.  Egad.   Verflixt.  

I figured the AR was no good, but did not realize that the BHP is toast as well.  Well, looks like I'll swap the AR for a friend's Guide Gun or steal back the 1903 if worst comes to worst.  Maybe I can scrounge up a Daisy air pistol somewhere too.  

Thanks for the answer Paul-- definitely a step in the right direction!

BTW, didn't you just move from beautiful Washington?  What's the deal with transferring an out of state car into CA?   Is it just a matter of paying big $$ for the smog inspection, or is it more hellish than that?  
7/21/2001 2:10:44 PM EDT
[#8]
I came down here on military orders - not by choice.
7/21/2001 2:27:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Also dont get caught with those Hi-Caps if you plan on owning guns.

7/21/2001 2:56:43 PM EDT
[#10]
The BHP is OK also. The DOJ safety check doesn't apply to private party handguns. Just to what dealers can bring in for resale. Private party transfers are also exempt.Under Calif law you have 60 days to register your handguns. You need "Report of Handgun Ownership" form---available at any dealer or cop shop. One form per gun---$14.00 per form. Enjoy your stay...
7/21/2001 4:13:22 PM EDT
[#11]
From the Public FAQ:
[url]http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/pubfaqs.htm#24[url]

23. I am moving into California and I own several handguns.Ê What are the new-resident registration requirements?

You are considered to be a personal handgun importer as defined by California law.Ê You may bring all of your otherwise California-legal firearms with you, but you must report all of your handguns to the DOJ within 60 days as required.Ê You are not required to report rifles or shotguns.Ê You may not bring ammunition feeding devices with a capacity greater than ten rounds, machineguns, or assault weapons into California.Ê

(PC sections 12001(n), 12072(f)(2))Ê
7/21/2001 4:35:16 PM EDT
[#12]
To add to the confusion I also found this on the certified list page:

"Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice.

This query will return handgun models that are currently certified for sale in California.

Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement."

And this about moving into the state:

"NEW CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS!

Effective January 1, 1998.

If you are a new California resident and you own a handgun, you must report it or dispose of it within 60 days.

Effective January 1, 1998, any person who moves into California and who brings any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person is considered to be a "Personal Handgun Importer" and is required to do one of the following within 60 days:

Complete and submit a Report of Handgun Ownership form along with $14.00 to the Department of Justice. A separate report form and $14.00 fee is required for each handgun reported. Report of Handgun Ownership forms can be obtained from California Department of Motor Vehicles' offices, licensed firearms dealers, local police and sheriff's departments, the California Department of Justice Firearms Division at (916) 227-3703, and from the Online Forms Page at this site.

Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California licensed firearms dealer or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to conduct the transaction.
or
Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California police or sheriff's department. Persons choosing this option should contact the law enforcement agency for instructions prior to transporting the handgun(s) to the agency.

Any person transporting handguns in California is required under California law to transport those handguns unloaded and in a locked container other than the glove compartment or utility compartment of a vehicle.

Please be aware that failure to comply with these mandated handgun requirements could result in criminal prosecution (Penal Code Section 12072(g))."


I couldn't find specific information about "Personal Importers" and the above information seems to be about handguns brought in for sale. Here's the web site and you can email the DOJ directly.

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/





7/21/2001 6:21:19 PM EDT
[#13]
The shotgun is OK, the AR type rifle is definitely NOT. The Browning is questionable but I'm guessing it'd be OK since it's not being sold as a new handgun to an existing PRK resident.

You'll have to find a way to shoot the HiPower and the 10/22 without mags, though, since no more hi-caps can be legally brought into California.

10rd mags are available for both.