[ARCHIVED THREAD] - COC ? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/19/2009 3:43:44 PM EDT
| Why do we have to be so PC here? Obama Nation openly want,s to kill whitey and Silencer Talk has pink girl parts. We should be able to say whatever we want,how we want. FUCK coc |
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Quoted: Because we're supposed to be better than them, instead of acting like immature brats. This place is like Pleasure Island on Pinnochio compared to most other places. I'm not sure collectively we're better than immature brats in this respect. However, this is not to be mistaken for a complaint. I abhor the censorship and restrictive guidelines of my other forums. On one of them, the filters automatically bleep the word nazi, so heaven help the people trying to discuss history while thinking up creative ways to get around the censor for that one. Ironically the word "damn" isn't. And yet, all the other profanity is. Even "ass." It's bizarre to say the least. |
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I used to post on some of the "almost no COC" sites and was a moderator on one. Ends up being a small group of bunch of 15 year old wannabee neo nazis ranting and raving and everyone else just gives up. Plenty of sites have tried the "Almost no COC" thing and most of them aren't around anymore or have almost no traffic. |
| Because there are already enough cyber cesspools out there. We don't want a board where a few assholes take over and chase off a bunch of good people. We also have 100K+ members(although all of them are obviously not active), who represent just about any demographic you can imagine. Making the place friendly for everyone is a lot more important than letting you say whatever you want. |
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I too have experienced these types of sites...they never last and it ends up being just 3-4 people on there...the rest leave.
I used to post on some of the "almost no COC" sites and was a moderator on one. Ends up being a small group of bunch of 15 year old wannabee neo nazis ranting and raving and everyone else just gives up. Plenty of sites have tried the "Almost no COC" thing and most of them aren't around anymore or have almost no traffic. |
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Quoted: It ain't that bad, really. Enforcement has loosened up quite a bit, in recent years. Hmmm, not sure about that. It used be wackier but that was before your join date. Not sure there has been a real difference since 04. Maybe it's either hard to judge that from the inside or things appear different than they are from the outside. |
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Full Auto has a pretty relaxed code of conduct. I used to post on the old one but after it closed and reopened I just never got all that interested in spending time there anymore. Tim's a great guy and all that, no criticism intended I actually got my account there locked for awhile  ball buster  |
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Quoted: I used to post on some of the "almost no COC" sites and was a moderator on one. Ends up being a small group of bunch of 15 year old wannabee neo nazis ranting and raving and everyone else just gives up. Plenty of sites have tried the "Almost no COC" thing and most of them aren't around anymore or have almost no traffic. This x 10,000 ARFcom's doin it right, they've been here for the long haul and it's still fun and has major traffic by, for what are the most part, like-minded, mutually-respectful folks. Keep up the good work.  |
Lets see how long you last before crawling back.
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Quoted: Quoted: It ain't that bad, really. Enforcement has loosened up quite a bit, in recent years. Hmmm, not sure about that. It used be wackier but that was before your join date. Not sure there has been a real difference since 04. Maybe it's either hard to judge that from the inside or things appear different than they are from the outside. From my perspective (outside looking in), the permabans and locks have been fewer and far between, reserved for more flagrant violations than what was once the accepted norm. The number of "chances" or "strikes" seems to have increased, as well. It's just perception - no hard data to back it up. This is feelings, talking. |
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Because we're supposed to be better than them, instead of acting like immature brats. and so they will keep succeeding in defeating us. when one side fights dirty and the other side fights with rules,, well, rules get self defeating pretty quick. I'm still stuck on the health care bullshit band wagon. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It ain't that bad, really. Enforcement has loosened up quite a bit, in recent years. Hmmm, not sure about that. It used be wackier but that was before your join date. Not sure there has been a real difference since 04. Maybe it's either hard to judge that from the inside or things appear different than they are from the outside. From my perspective (outside looking in), the permabans and locks have been fewer and far between, reserved for more flagrant violations than what was once the accepted norm. The number of "chances" or "strikes" seems to have increased, as well. It's just perception - no hard data to back it up. This is feelings, talking. Huh. You might be right, however it also might be that there have been less high post count people getting the axe. If 10 guys who post once in awhile and have only been here a few years go batshit and start posting racist stuff (that seems to be the most frequent thing since Obama was nominated) I think it makes less of an impression than if two guys with 10k posts who have been locked and unlocked numerous times finally get the boot. I suppose the "warning" system and "temp lock" system might have cut down on the permanent locks. It would be interesting to know if that's the case, I don't think there is any way to see the numbers. |
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Quoted: Well, Swingset has been warned and/or locked something like 9 times...so the site isn't THAT quick to give somebody the boot. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It ain't that bad, really. Enforcement has loosened up quite a bit, in recent years. Hmmm, not sure about that. It used be wackier but that was before your join date. Not sure there has been a real difference since 04. Maybe it's either hard to judge that from the inside or things appear different than they are from the outside. From my perspective (outside looking in), the permabans and locks have been fewer and far between, reserved for more flagrant violations than what was once the accepted norm. The number of "chances" or "strikes" seems to have increased, as well. It's just perception - no hard data to back it up. This is feelings, talking. Huh. You might be right, however it also might be that there have been less high post count people getting the axe. If 10 guys who post once in awhile and have only been here a few years go batshit and start posting racist stuff (that seems to be the most frequent thing since Obama was nominated) I think it makes less of an impression than if two guys with 10k posts who have been locked and unlocked numerous times finally get the boot. I suppose the "warning" system and "temp lock" system might have cut down on the permanent locks. It would be interesting to know if that's the case, I don't think there is any way to see the numbers. |
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GD has a good set of rules for the COC, it keeps everything somewhat in check. But I would agree, BOTD could be loosened up ALOT. Especially since you have to be a paying member to even view that section of the board. I just havent had much interest in renewing my membership so its no skin off my back. |
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Why do we have to be so PC here? Obama Nation openly want,s to kill whitey and Silencer Talk has pink girl parts. We should be able to say whatever we want,how we want. FUCK coc There were rules clearly set out when you signed up. If you don't like them, you're always free to visit those other boards that have all the racism and pornography you crave. I frequent other boards but not boards that feature racism and porn. 
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Why do we have to be so PC here? Because the Site owners say so. The CoC here is the minimum that seems to work for most people, and in the long run. Obama Nation openly want,s to kill whitey
I dunno about that. and Silencer Talk has pink girl parts.
This is a Gun Site, with lots of related sub forums. If you want Porn, there are thousands of sites that specialize in that sort of thing, and they're not hard to find, either. We should be able to say whatever we want,how we want. FUCK coc
The CoC has quite a bit of lattitude built into it. Most folks can get their point across without violating it, with a few exceptions. If you feel the need to call someone out, there's always the PIT, but that has rules, too. Sorry we can't oblige you on everything you want. As noted above, the Boards that have tried the "no CoC" approach usually degenerate fairly quickly. This Board, and our CoC isn't perfect, but it is a good, workable compromise that most people find useful and useable. I look forward to your post #88. I'm certain it will be interesting. |