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Posted: 2/24/2016 11:22:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2016 11:23:16 AM EDT by gym007]
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10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.






Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:29:18 AM EDT
The Mexicans may buld the wall themselves if they find we gringoes fleeing our fascists overlords.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:29:34 AM EDT
If he gets elected and doesn't build this wall I will flip my shit.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:30:16 AM EDT
The wall will be 10 feet higher than shown.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:30:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2016 11:30:54 AM EDT by gym007]
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Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.




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Yep. A drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on supporting illegals right now
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:31:36 AM EDT
SOLD!  let's get this done.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:31:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnConnor:
If he gets elected and doesn't build this wall I will flip my shit.
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As much emphasis as he has put on this wall... If he does win the presidency he will HAVE to at least build the wall, even if its the only thing he does
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:31:57 AM EDT
CNN has jumped the shark.

You don't build a new wall, you simply turn Interstate 10 up on its edge.

LOL the MSM.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:32:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.




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Yep.  

I remember Romney, or McCain, talking about removing some unneeded projects from the budget and saving $14 billion.  Everyone shrugged it off as an amount that was meaningless in the grand scheme of the budget, so why is it too much, now?

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Originally Posted By WileyG27:


10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.
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10 billion in materials. Probably many times that to build it. Still a bargain.

 
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:32:43 AM EDT
Let's build it!
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:35:08 AM EDT
$10 billion is nothing and would be a fantastic investment that would save us 100's of billions in welfare payouts to illegals.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:37:11 AM EDT
Don't forget the armed UAVs patrolling from above.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:37:23 AM EDT
Let's do it. It should pay for itself very quickly.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:37:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gym007:


Yep. A drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on supporting illegals right now
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Originally Posted By gym007:
Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.






Yep. A drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on supporting illegals right now



Which is where the problem really is.

If they could not get a job (huge fine and 1 year in jail for hiring an illegal),if they couldn't get welfare,foodstamps,etc.,if they could get no free medical care,if their kids weren't allowed in school,if they didn't get tax "refunds",they would have no reason to come here.

Mexico would be screaming for a wall if the situation was reversed and shitloads of people were going down there for all the free stuff.


None of that is going to happen,so we will piss away billions on a wall that they will still tunnel under,climb over,bust thru,go around,etc to get the free stuff.

Kinda like keeping rats out of your garage-you can try and seal every nook and cranny and try and make in impenetrable fortress,but if there is lots of free food inside,they will continue trying to get to it.............
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:38:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
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You just gave me an idea.

Offer citizenship to those illegals that put more than 2,000 hours into building the wall. That would have a huge impact on labor costs.

Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:39:48 AM EDT
I don't see any turrets with gun emplacements on that wall.  Where's the mote filled with acid and sharks, electric eels and alligators?  I'm disappointing with CNN.  
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Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:42:00 AM EDT
i'll take it
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:42:49 AM EDT
Fund it
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:43:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BM1455:
I don't see any turrets with gun emplacements on that wall.  Where's the mote filled with acid and sharks, electric eels and alligators?  I'm disappointing with CNN.  
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No sharks,but we did get some Sea Bass.........
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:44:36 AM EDT
I wonder if the workers will come under sniper fire at any point during the construction.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:44:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Danner130:
CNN has jumped the shark.

You don't build a new wall, you simply turn Interstate 10 up on its edge.

LOL the MSM.
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I would prefer I-8
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:44:39 AM EDT
10 billion vs all the economic benefits from it? Hell, increased worker morale alone could make up the difference in a short amount of time.

I know that's not simple or fully feasible to quantify, but 10 billion for all the shit that comes with ..10 million illegals?  Easyyyy business deal! Done! Sign it!
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I wonder what the savings in welfare and other government benefits and the criminal justice system would come to?
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:48:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rustler:


You just gave me an idea.

Offer citizenship to those illegals that put more than 2,000 hours into building the wall. That would have a huge impact on labor costs.

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Originally Posted By Rustler:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
The Mexicans may buld the wall themselves if they find we gringoes fleeing our fascists overlords.


You just gave me an idea.

Offer citizenship to those illegals that put more than 2,000 hours into building the wall. That would have a huge impact on labor costs.



You sir are a wizard.  However, can we up it to 2080 hrs?  That's a full working year with 2 weeks vacation.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:50:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Frank_B:
Let's do it. It should pay for itself very quickly.
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Agreed......
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:50:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4v50:


You sir are a wizard.  However, can we up it to 2080 hrs?  That's a full working year with 2 weeks vacation.
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Originally Posted By Rustler:
Originally Posted By 4v50:
The Mexicans may buld the wall themselves if they find we gringoes fleeing our fascists overlords.


You just gave me an idea.

Offer citizenship to those illegals that put more than 2,000 hours into building the wall. That would have a huge impact on labor costs.



You sir are a wizard.  However, can we up it to 2080 hrs?  That's a full working year with 2 weeks vacation.




...or we can have them pile a brick or two onto the wall as they leave.  
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:51:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By carguym14:



Which is where the problem really is.

If they could not get a job (huge fine and 1 year in jail for hiring an illegal),if they couldn't get welfare,foodstamps,etc.,if they could get no free medical care,if their kids weren't allowed in school,if they didn't get tax "refunds",they would have no reason to come here.

Mexico would be screaming for a wall if the situation was reversed and shitloads of people were going down there for all the free stuff.


None of that is going to happen,so we will piss away billions on a wall that they will still tunnel under,climb over,bust thru,go around,etc to get the free stuff.

Kinda like keeping rats out of your garage-you can try and seal every nook and cranny and try and make in impenetrable fortress,but if there is lots of free food inside,they will continue trying to get to it.............
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By gym007:
Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.






Yep. A drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on supporting illegals right now



Which is where the problem really is.

If they could not get a job (huge fine and 1 year in jail for hiring an illegal),if they couldn't get welfare,foodstamps,etc.,if they could get no free medical care,if their kids weren't allowed in school,if they didn't get tax "refunds",they would have no reason to come here.

Mexico would be screaming for a wall if the situation was reversed and shitloads of people were going down there for all the free stuff.


None of that is going to happen,so we will piss away billions on a wall that they will still tunnel under,climb over,bust thru,go around,etc to get the free stuff.

Kinda like keeping rats out of your garage-you can try and seal every nook and cranny and try and make in impenetrable fortress,but if there is lots of free food inside,they will continue trying to get to it.............


The wall wil increase the cost of getting illegals here to the point that it will drop the rate of entrance astronomically. Lets build the wall AND the other things you mentioned.

And UAV's with ground penetrating radar, and snipers with thermal scopes
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:52:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.




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Yep, estimates of how much illegals cost us annually are usually north of $100BN. $10BN for a wall would be a bargain.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:52:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.




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Exactly this.

Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:52:38 AM EDT
In all fairness, Europe needs new immigrants and both Mexico and South America has an ample supply that have similar values and religions.



Ship them to Europe, and everyone does well.



I'd like to watch the fights between Mexicans and islam
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Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.




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Yep, and stop sending aid to Mexico and boom it's paid for.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:55:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By glockftwbbq:


Yep, and stop sending aid to Mexico and boom it's paid for.
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Originally Posted By glockftwbbq:
Originally Posted By WileyG27:
10 Billion sounds like a bargain to me to prevent millions of lifelong freeloaders and turning the US more into a 3rd World shithole.






Yep, and stop sending aid to Mexico and boom it's paid for.


I remember when Jeb said it was physically impossible to build a wall that big
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:58:05 AM EDT
20 ft high?

Pffffft - I'd expect at least 40 minimum.




Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:58:28 AM EDT
Just put every able-bodied illegal caught crossing the border on a chain-gang building the wall. Deport everybody else. Of course high fines for employing an illegal, and absolutely no welfare services of any kind, would help a lot to keep illegals out.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 11:59:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WGPKlaus:
SOLD!  let's get this done.
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Originally Posted By night9:
Fund it
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Hasn't this thing been at least partially funded since Reagan?




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Originally Posted By mfingar:
My vote would be for a mobile "wall".

http://www.uhb.nhs.uk/Images/SellyOakPhotos/ApacheGunship2.jpg

...and maybe judicious use of contemporary landmine technology.


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This does get to the heart of the matter.

Walls are pretty useless without men with guns (or spears, as the case may be) standing on top of them.


And if we were willing to shoot people who tried to cross illegally, well...  we could do that right now.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 12:06:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TrojanMan:


This does get to the heart of the matter.

Walls are pretty useless without men with guns (or spears, as the case may be) standing on top of them.


And if we were willing to shoot people who tried to cross illegally, well...  we could do that right now.
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Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
Originally Posted By mfingar:
My vote would be for a mobile "wall".

http://www.uhb.nhs.uk/Images/SellyOakPhotos/ApacheGunship2.jpg

...and maybe judicious use of contemporary landmine technology.




This does get to the heart of the matter.

Walls are pretty useless without men with guns (or spears, as the case may be) standing on top of them.


And if we were willing to shoot people who tried to cross illegally, well...  we could do that right now.




How can you shoot women.............children???
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Link Posted: 2/24/2016 12:07:23 PM EDT
What about the sentry guns? They didn't include all the costs, it will be more than that. And completely worth it.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 12:08:50 PM EDT
CNN - Stage 5: Acceptance
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
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Hell no.

The cartels would love that shit.  It would make all of their prices skyrocket.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 12:13:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By carguym14:




How can you shoot women.............children???
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
Originally Posted By mfingar:
My vote would be for a mobile "wall".

http://www.uhb.nhs.uk/Images/SellyOakPhotos/ApacheGunship2.jpg

...and maybe judicious use of contemporary landmine technology.




This does get to the heart of the matter.

Walls are pretty useless without men with guns (or spears, as the case may be) standing on top of them.


And if we were willing to shoot people who tried to cross illegally, well...  we could do that right now.




How can you shoot women.............children???


easy. ya just don't lead 'em as much.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 12:13:25 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By TooBigToFail:


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The wall just got 10 feet higher! That was awesome.



They should go much deeper too.



 
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Originally Posted By BM1455:


I don't see any turrets with gun emplacements on that wall.  Where's the mote filled with acid and sharks, electric eels and alligators?  I'm disappointing with CNN.  
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Agreed. And the sharks will need lasers. They really need new advisors at cnn.



 
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Originally Posted By carguym14:




How can you shoot women.............children???
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
Originally Posted By mfingar:
My vote would be for a mobile "wall".

http://www.uhb.nhs.uk/Images/SellyOakPhotos/ApacheGunship2.jpg

...and maybe judicious use of contemporary landmine technology.




This does get to the heart of the matter.

Walls are pretty useless without men with guns (or spears, as the case may be) standing on top of them.


And if we were willing to shoot people who tried to cross illegally, well...  we could do that right now.




How can you shoot women.............children???


They came to America to work.  They can make license plates and turn big rocks into little rocks.  Plus the woods don't rake themselves.

I envision a sprawling chain gang.  Like Cool Hand Luke, just less....cool.
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