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Posted: 8/16/2005 7:18:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:24:42 PM EDT
Where are the pics?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:30:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:39:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 5:50:34 AM EDT by Jack19]
I had a M17 at one time and while I liked it, I think Kurt's modifications are not just worth getting.....they're mandatory. Minimally, the trigger needs work to make it as good as it can be and you need some functional fixed sights.

Bushmaster really needs to update the platform.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:58:22 PM EDT
I've actually had a couple of failures to feed, and damned if I know why. There aren't really all that many moving parts in the thing that need lubing or cleaning, which is odd.

When I finally get around to finding/making a box that I can use to ship the upper half to Kurt, I'll be firing it off, but I'm not sure I'm happy at what I'm hearing about the turnaround times.

One mod I won't be getting is the shortening option. Just runs completely contrary to the point of a bullpup, IMO. However, I'm certainly not happy with the factory's default rail being so high above the cheek-line so that'll be first to go.

NTM
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:01:32 PM EDT
Kurt's mods are definitely worth it. I wouldn't shorten the barrel, personally - because I like the 21.5" inches - but replacing the shitty handle, a better rail and some optics, and you've got a kick-ass rifle!

I like mine a lot, but it can be a little finicky when it comes to mags. Thermold are best, in my opinion, but USGI are fine too. (Doesn't like the british mags so much).
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:43:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:47:52 PM EDT
Ewwww. It's a bullpup!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:50:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MachinegunManiac:
Ewwww. It's a bullpup!
www.bushmaster.com/shopping/m17s/30-900-sa.jpg



Yeah - with a 21.5" barrel in a package shorter than an M4, and a clean piston-based gas system (and an indestructible receiver) - for $400.


Yeech !!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:51:27 PM EDT
You're denying that it's hideous?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:52:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MachinegunManiac:
You're denying that it's hideous?




All black guns are - didn't you know?


The more hideous the better!! The new FN p2000 is so ugly, it's a thing of beauty!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:53:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:59:37 PM EDT
My friend bought one a couple years back. The sighting is nearly impossible, and it just doesn't feel... right.
It's unique enough, though. The trigger is pretty terrible, even in comparison to standard Bushmaster, so I'd update that.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:05:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jack19:
I had a M7 at one time and while I liked it, I think Kurt's modifications are not just worth getting.....they're mandatory. Minimally, the trigger needs work to make it as good as it can be and you need some functional fixed sights.

Bushmaster really needs to update the platform.



Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:19:46 AM EDT
If I could ever find one for $400, I'd snap it up in a heartbeat. Anybody got one for sale?
Anyway- good deal. We need a range report/dinner pics/draw down incident.
-Hobbit
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:56:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 4:02:04 AM EDT
$400 is a good deal. They're nifty and accurate. Kurt's mods sound good. Keep an eye out for feeding problems. I've seen an M17s which tended to end up with rounds rattling around in the receiver - bushmaster fixed the problem.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:17:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MachinegunManiac:
You're denying that it's hideous?



Yes.



I don't care what you say, -that- is a cool rifle.

NTM
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:21:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 8:22:45 AM EDT by Jack19]
Deleted, I'm having reading comprehension difficulty. lol
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:23:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Manic_Moran:

Originally Posted By MachinegunManiac:
You're denying that it's hideous?



Yes.

www.kurtskustomfirearms.citymax.com/i/M17/TharpM17_3.jpg

I don't care what you say, -that- is a cool rifle.

NTM



Thanks! Thats my rifle your playing with!
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:29:55 AM EDT
The stock is soo ugly though. Can kurt make L85-style stocks for it? That would help.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:32:19 AM EDT


Drum mags? Does that interfere with your arms and ribs?
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 10:35:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2005 10:36:10 AM EDT by chapperjoe]
i just got mine used with the full KKF job. the top rail is WAY out of spec. posted a thread in KKF forum about it. everything rattles by at least half a mm.

ARMS, YHM and DPMS buis are a no fit.

Bottom rail is perfect.
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 10:49:02 AM EDT
Before going to KKF.Check the posts there.Some people have waited 8 months,even a year before getting their M17 back.
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 10:55:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By spectre7:
Before going to KKF.Check the posts there.Some people have waited 8 months,even a year before getting their M17 back.



he does good work but is slow. I had him add an A2 muzzle break to my AR and turn HBAR down to A2 and it took like 3 months. Quality job for good price, though.
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