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1/6/2004 10:44:31 PM EDT
A Democratic web site called www.moveon.org has a contest going on.  Basically, you create a 30 second video that bashes President Bush.  Go to www.bushin30seconds.org to watch the 15 finalists.

I found it interesting that the winner will be chosen by the following judges:  Jack Black, Donna Brazile, James Carville, Margaret Cho, Hector Elizondo, Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo, Stan Greenberg, Ted Hope, Michael Mann, Moby, Michael Moore, Mark Pellington, Tony Shalhoub, Russell Simmons, Michael Stipe, Gus Van Sant, Katrina Vanden Heuvel and Eddie Vedder.  What a nice collection of Hollywood idiots and left wing wackos.

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1/6/2004 11:22:58 PM EDT
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I found it interesting that the winner will be chosen by the following judges:  Jack Black, Donna Brazile, James Carville, Margaret Cho, Hector Elizondo, Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo, Stan Greenberg, Ted Hope, Michael Mann, Moby, Michael Moore, Mark Pellington, Tony Shalhoub, Russell Simmons, Michael Stipe, Gus Van Sant, Katrina Vanden Heuvel and Eddie Vedder.  What a nice collection of Hollywood idiots and left wing wackos.
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Nothing but a bunch of fags, bitches, assmunches and fags.
(there's a lot of fags in that list)

1/6/2004 11:34:14 PM EDT
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The most popular one on DU is "Child's Pay", the one that shows children doing menial labor to pay off the Bush deficits.  FYI
1/6/2004 11:39:41 PM EDT
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Is this what passes for politics and political speech in the new century?

A bunch of so-called “celebrities” passing judgment on people bashing a sitting President because they can’t come up with any decent dialog about what they would do better if in that position?

Dude, that’s fucked up.

The Democrats have nothing to offer so they are reduced to this?

What pitiful, small minded people.
1/6/2004 11:40:44 PM EDT
[#4]
They must have deleted the ones that portrayed Bush as being like Hitler.

[url]http://www.rnc.org/Newsroom/Releases/Jan04/MoveOn2.htm[/url]
1/7/2004 6:02:38 AM EDT
[#5]
i take offense to bashing of my president....
1/7/2004 6:34:05 AM EDT
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I found it interesting that the winner will be chosen by the following judges:  Jack Black, Donna Brazile, James Carville, Margaret Cho, Hector Elizondo, Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo, Stan Greenberg, Ted Hope, [red]Michael Mann[/red], Moby, Michael Moore, Mark Pellington, Tony Shalhoub, Russell Simmons, Michael Stipe, Gus Van Sant, Katrina Vanden Heuvel and Eddie Vedder.  What a nice collection of Hollywood idiots and left wing wackos.
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Damn. There goes my love for Miami Vice... [:(]
1/7/2004 6:41:29 AM EDT
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Damn. There goes my love for Miami Vice... [:(]
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he also directed 'Heat" excuse me wrote produced and directed.
1/7/2004 7:14:09 AM EDT
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Crap, I used to like Jack Black.
1/7/2004 7:18:33 AM EDT
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Crap, I used to like Jack Black.
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me too :-/
1/7/2004 7:39:28 AM EDT
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i take offense to bashing of my president....
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I see, so you never "bashed" Clinton?
1/7/2004 7:39:28 AM EDT
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Reminds me of a quote, the make of which I can't remember:

"Politics is now religion.  The Republicans are looking for converts; the Democrats are looking for heretics."
1/7/2004 7:56:32 AM EDT
[#12]
My favorite quote on politics comes from Charles Krauthammer:
To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.
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1/7/2004 8:18:17 AM EDT
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I found it interesting that the winner will be chosen by the following judges:  Jack Black, Donna Brazile, James Carville, Margaret Cho, Hector Elizondo, Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo, Stan Greenberg, Ted Hope, Michael Mann, Moby, Michael Moore, Mark Pellington, Tony Shalhoub, Russell Simmons, Michael Stipe, Gus Van Sant, Katrina Vanden Heuvel and Eddie Vedder.  What a nice collection of Hollywood idiots and left wing wackos.
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Nothing but a bunch of fags, bitches, assmunches and fags.
(there's a lot of fags in that list)

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DAMN!  There ARE, aren't there?

That's because they are more SENSITIVE and CREATIVE and they do things with more FEELING than the rest of us low-life plebs.

Fuck every one of those losers.  They can all kiss my white-male-racist-sexist-bigoted-capitalist-conservative-Klintonhating-pig ASS!  [;D]

I'll tell y'all something ELSE:

On election night...I'm going to be right HERE...glued to the returns...watching Dean...or whomever the Dems run, get his/her sorry socialist ASS handed to them, AND watching the implosions over at the DU.  Just like in 2000/2002, as the returns begin coming in and the Liberals begin falling by the wayside, the wailing and weeping over at the DU will grow ever more shrill as the DU'ers begin talking about fleeing the BFEE for Australia, Canada, or France.  Some will even talk about suicide.  Good.  Nice way to help clean up the gene pool.
1/7/2004 8:24:23 AM EDT
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Crap, I used to like Jack Black.
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He Frenched R. Lee ERmy in "Saving Silverman"
1/7/2004 8:33:45 AM EDT
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On election night...I'm going to be right HERE...glued to the returns...watching Dean...or whomever the Dems run, get his/her sorry socialist ASS handed to them
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I'm not so sure that's the way it's going to come down.

There are tons of people who frequent this board who are not trolls and are gunowners who have already stated that they will not vote for Bush again.

The U.S.A. is screwed on so many levels.

God bless America, God help America. Please.
1/7/2004 10:11:27 AM EDT
[#16]
yah, those hollyweird fucks are right, bush is a meany, lets be one issue voters and throw this election away.

yah,

thats it

dean likes guns right?


right?
1/7/2004 10:37:55 AM EDT
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i take offense to bashing of my president....
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I see, so you never "bashed" Clinton?
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A good question !
1/7/2004 10:53:54 AM EDT
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I bashed clinton here and there, but not at this level, and I never compared him to hitler which is something the liberals do on a daily basis. Plus most of my clinton bashing was directed at specific acts, like lying under oath, and wasn't just general "bush is satan" type shit
1/7/2004 11:13:45 AM EDT
[#19]
Hollywood is the real "never never land"
1/7/2004 11:24:14 AM EDT
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They must have deleted the ones that portrayed Bush as being like Hitler.

[url]http://www.rnc.org/Newsroom/Releases/Jan04/MoveOn2.htm[/url]
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For some reason I'm on moveon.org's spam list.  They sent me this email, trying to distance themselves from the ad while blaming the RNC for calling attention to it.  The nerve of those Repuglicans!

[b]Dear MoveOn member,

As the New Year begins, we'd rather be talking about positive things, and there are plenty of good things happening. But MoveOn.org has come under attack from the Republican National Committee (RNC), which has launched a campaign of malicious misinformation to divert attention from the creativity and power of the Bush in 30 Seconds contest. We need your help to make sure the media don't fall for it.

RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie launched the attack on "Fox News Sunday," and the RNC followed it with press releases and calls to reporters. The charges centered on two ads posted on the Bush in 30 Seconds website which compared President Bush's tactis with those of Adolf Hitler. Mr. Gillespie repeatedly referred to the ads as 'the MoveOn ad' or 'MoveOn's ad,' implying that we had sponsored or perhaps even commissioned the ad. And he also claimed that we might spend $7 million to run it on TV.

This is a lie. MoveOn.org hasn't sponsored such an ad, and we never would -- we regret the appearance of these ads on the Bush In 30 Seconds site. The two ads in question are from more than a thousand posted by members of the public, and they were voted on by MoveOn members through December 31st. Obviously the few hundred of you who viewed these ads agreed that they were not worthy of further broadcast or recognition, because they got low ratings. Yesterday we announced the 15 finalists -- all good, hard-hitting and fair appraisals of the Bush record, in the judgment of the members and others who rated them. The two offending ads can only be found one place now -- on the RNC website!

When we've explained this to journalists, most have understood that this is a game of gotcha politics, not news. But even our statement for the press below, which goes through the entire process in detail, hasn't stopped the right wing from working this angle as hard as they can.

That's why we're asking you to please watch for stories on this as they appear, and let us know. Call the news outlet yourself and give them hell for falling victim to such political baloney. I've attached our statement, which fully explains the situation, below. Then please let us know so we can contact the outlets directly.

You can help us track inaccurate reporting on this story at:
http://moveon.org/smear/?id=2233-3034963-Zpf2qjzBkkv6JDl.F.kyoQ

Second, we need you to get the press back on the right track. After you've corrected the negative accounts, write an upbeat letter to your local paper about the exciting and positive aspects of the contest and the finalists. These ads reflect the courage, hope, and deep patriotism of our membership. They're creative, passionate, and totally unlike most of the political ads that are out there. And perhaps most importantly, they were picked in a democratic way. Now that's a story.

The finalists are online at:
http://www.bushin30seconds.org/

By sharing that URL with your friends, family, and colleagues, you can help to make sure that the RNC isn't successful in stealing our finalists' glory.

Not only is the RNC campaign deceptive, it's also totally disingenuous. Yesterday, the New York Post ran a long opinion column focusing exclusively on how much Presidential Candidate Howard Dean resembles Hitler, even calling him "Herr Howie." Of course, the RNC hasn't issued a condemnation of that. When close RNC ally Grover Norquist repeatedly compared taxing the wealthy with the Holocaust in an interview on NPR, the RNC was muted. And in 2002, the RNC and its allies were silent when supporters of President Bush actually aired TV ads morphing the face of Senator Max Cleland, a triple amputee as a result of wounds sustained in Vietnam, into Osama bin Laden. Given such a transparently partisan track record, the RNC's moral outrage doesn't mean a whole lot.

Obviously, MoveOn.org and its 1.7 million members are now on the right-wing radar. They are going to do everything they can do to silence us, and we simply won't let it happen. Smear tactics and campaigns of misinformation have no place in American democracy.

Sincerely,
--Adam, Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack
 The MoveOn.org Team
 January 6th, 2003

P.S. Here's the statement we released to the press yesterday, which explains the whole situation.

ADS ATTACKED BY RNC CHAIRMAN
ARE NOT MOVEON.ORG VOTER FUND ADS
MoveOn.org Voter Fund Regrets
Screening Process Allowed Ads to Slip Through

Statement by Wes Boyd, Founder of MoveOn.org Voter Fund:

The Republican National Committee and its chairman have falsely accused MoveOn.org of sponsoring ads on its website which compare President Bush to Adolf Hitler. The claim is deliberately and maliciously misleading.

During December the MoveOn.org Voter Fund invited members of the public to submit ads that purported to tell the truth about the President and his policies. More than 1,500 submissions from ordinary Americans came in and were posted on a web site, bushin30seconds.org, for the public to review.

None of these was our ad, nor did their appearance constitute endorsement or sponsorship by MoveOn.org Voter Fund. They will not appear on TV. We do not support the sentiment expressed in the two Hitler submissions. They were voted down by our members and the public, who reviewed the ads and submitted nearly 3 million critiques in the process of choosing the 15 finalist entries.

We agree that the two ads in question were in poor taste and deeply regret that they slipped through our screening process. In the future, if we publish or broadcast raw material, we will create a more effective filtering system.

Contrast this with the behavior of the RNC and its allies when supporters of President Bush used TV ads morphing the face of Sen. Max Cleland (D-GA) into that of Osama Bin Laden during the 2002 Senate race.

MoveOn.org and the MoveOn.org Voter Fund exist to bring the public into the political process and produce a more fact-based election process. We regret that the RNC doesn't seem to embrace the same goals.[/b]
1/7/2004 11:27:46 AM EDT
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yah, those hollyweird fucks are right, bush is a meany, lets be one issue voters and throw this election away.

yah,

thats it

dean likes guns right?

right?
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ONE issue? ONE ISSUE? Wake up!
1/7/2004 2:08:17 PM EDT
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yah, those hollyweird fucks are right, bush is a meany, lets be one issue voters and throw this election away.

yah,

thats it

dean likes guns right?

right?
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ONE issue? ONE ISSUE? Wake up!
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No, you wake up.  If this one issue (guns) ever goes completely the way of those clowns, the other issues will all be irrelevant.
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