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Posted: 11/20/2008 5:43:51 PM EDT
Seriously considering burying some of my toys. Anyone have any experience, or have suggestions? I know it sounds paranoid, but I am getting paranoid. I got a feeling some bad shit is coming our way.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:44:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:44:51 PM EDT
They won't do you any good buried.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:45:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 5:45:47 PM EDT by SV650Squid]
PVC pipe, 2 end caps, PVC glue, and desiccant pack.  Hack saw to open.

ETA yea what other's said.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:45:31 PM EDT
A little early, doncha think?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:46:08 PM EDT
Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:47:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


The day they take away the second amendment is the day all our other rights are next to go.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:48:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them



This
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:06 PM EDT



Originally Posted By JCKnife:

Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?




I remember that....I recall it was an AK or two.  



I can understand wanting to diversify the storage location of your "goods" in case your house in broken into or house fire, etc.  Better than burying is having a local network of trusted folks to for diversification of location.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


A bug out stash might not be a bad idea, but +1 for the above.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?


It was the parking lot of a shopping center

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By larkinmusic:
They won't do you any good buried.


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 5:52:57 PM EDT by RockHard13F]
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?


I remember reading that.  Was that on ARF or another forum? Didn't they start some massive construction near by, hence the massive gravel dump on top of it?

I DO remember after another poster mentioned it.  It was a shopping center parking lot.


-Ben
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:50:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 5:53:00 PM EDT by Apostrophe]
Burying weapons is a sensible thing to do when you know that you'll be needing them and need to hide them.

I don't think it makes much sense until an actual war breaks out. Until then, any weaponry will serve you best if kept close at hand to fend off criminals. Hiding them somewhere in your home might make more sense.

If you do go ahead with it, I'd suggest purchasing a sturdy, strong, watertight container. Something like a Hardigg Storm Case. Don't try to craft something out of PVC pipes or other assorted rubbish. You do not want moisture destroying your weaponry. You'll also need to store plenty of ammo for your weapons to be of any use.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:51:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


Pfft. No one is gonna do anything if the time comes. People will just turn in their guns or will try to hide them. Most people have been fooled into believing that AWs have no "sporting purpose" by the dumbasses in govt, even though the 2nd Amendment has NOTHING to do with whether being armed is for hunting or sporting.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:55:12 PM EDT
Wrap them in plastic, seal it off water tight.

Bury them about 2 feet deep.

Send me the GPS coordinates and I will tell you if you did good or not.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:55:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


Pfft. No one is gonna do anything if the time comes. People will just turn in their guns or will try to hide them. Most people have been fooled into believing that AWs have no "sporting purpose" by the dumbasses in govt, even though the 2nd Amendment has NOTHING to do with whether being armed is for hunting or sporting.


Vet is right, nobody cares. Shit half of the country thinks that socialism is the way to go. Fuck even a lot of the guys I work with that hunt voted BHO.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:56:49 PM EDT
I was gonna do the same thing, but then I had that tragic boating accident......
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:57:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By glockfan45:
Originally Posted By larkinmusic:
They won't do you any good buried.




Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:59:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


amen, the day I have to bury them is the day I will be branded a terrorist.

get out and let your voice be heard so that day never comes.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 5:59:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


/thread.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:00:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 6:01:15 PM EDT by KnobCreek]


Originally Posted By Stal:



Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:



Originally Posted By dpmmn:

If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them




Pfft. No one is gonna do anything if the time comes. People will just turn in their guns or will try to hide them. Most people have been fooled into believing that AWs have no "sporting purpose" by the dumbasses in govt, even though the 2nd Amendment has NOTHING to do with whether being armed is for hunting or sporting.




Vet is right, nobody cares. Shit half of the country thinks that socialism is the way to go. Fuck even a lot of the guys I work with that hunt voted BHO.



Half the country? Shit, it's more like 80%. Talk to enough people about "things" and you'll soon discover that most everybody is looking for a free lunch in one form or another. 80% may be a stretch, but it's well above 50%.



Most chest thumpers will do nothing...there can be no doubt about that. However, it only take a very small percentage of US gun owners to actually DO something for it to become a major fucking mess in this country.

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:02:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By xd675:
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


amen, the day I have to bury them is the day I will be branded a terrorist.

get out and let your voice be heard so that day never comes.


I agree with that but the problem is the number of voices is getting smaller, and smaller.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:03:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


Over and over this cliche is used.  The two things are not mutually exclusive.  AQIZ in Iraq would bury their weapons all the time.  When an operation was imminent they go dig them up, use them, and then rebury them.  Then when coalition forces search their homes they act like fools and don't know anything about any terrorists.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:05:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By larkinmusic:
They won't do you any good buried.


I disagree.  If a conficsation comes, they are either taking what they can find or you going to die protecting what you could of hid.  

I partially agree however. When it comes that time its when you need them most. But I for one would like to have a contingency plan...  Bought 2 sks that I plan to give a shallow grave for awhile!
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:06:12 PM EDT
OK. So they're buried.

You can't shoot them at the range.

You can't show them to anybody.

You can't use them for personal defense.

When do you decide to unearth them?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:07:56 PM EDT
Kind of pointless to bury them unless there is an imminent threat..

You are only risking damaging your equipment if your packing fails. I haven't heard of any JBTs going door to door yet.. I think you'll be okay.

And posting that you have/want to/or will bury weapons on a forum is not a good thing that somebody can find via google.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:09:13 PM EDT
Bury people...NOT guns!
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:12:16 PM EDT
RESIST.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:12:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SV650Squid:
PVC pipe, 2 end caps, PVC glue, and desiccant pack.  Hack saw to open.

ETA yea what other's said.


+1

There is nothing wrong with stashing a couple of guns away.  For example, if you're railroaded by the courts over some bullshit misdemeanor domestic violence crime ie. yelling at your daughter's boyfriend, then the police will take all your guns.  Having access to a couple of guns in case of a SHTF is not a bad idea.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:13:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Apostrophe:

If you do go ahead with it, I'd suggest purchasing a sturdy, strong, watertight container. Something like a Hardigg Storm Case. Don't try to craft something out of PVC pipes or other assorted rubbish. You do not want moisture destroying your weaponry. You'll also need to store plenty of ammo for your weapons to be of any use.


Explain this to me.  PVC can handle 100+ psi water pressure.  I don't think any moisture is getting in.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:14:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them



this

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:14:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mazeman:
OK. So they're buried.

You can't shoot them at the range.

You can't show them to anybody.

You can't use them for personal defense.

When do you decide to unearth them?


I don't think he means all of them.  Only a couple 'just in case'.

As one of the posters above noted, as have many other Iraq War vets, the insurgents would cache weapons for later use.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:14:32 PM EDT


Originally Posted By HUMONGO:



Originally Posted By JCKnife:

Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?




It was the parking lot of a shopping center





In a few hundred years anthropologists are going to be having a ball.  




 
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:18:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ranchhand:
Originally Posted By Apostrophe:

If you do go ahead with it, I'd suggest purchasing a sturdy, strong, watertight container. Something like a Hardigg Storm Case. Don't try to craft something out of PVC pipes or other assorted rubbish. You do not want moisture destroying your weaponry. You'll also need to store plenty of ammo for your weapons to be of any use.


Explain this to me.  PVC can handle 100+ psi water pressure.  I don't think any moisture is getting in.


+1

Where the ground freezes, I would suggest burying the PVC pipe below the frost line.  But it would likely survive just fine even if you didn't.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:23:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By C-4:
Originally Posted By ranchhand:
Originally Posted By Apostrophe:

If you do go ahead with it, I'd suggest purchasing a sturdy, strong, watertight container. Something like a Hardigg Storm Case. Don't try to craft something out of PVC pipes or other assorted rubbish. You do not want moisture destroying your weaponry. You'll also need to store plenty of ammo for your weapons to be of any use.


Explain this to me.  PVC can handle 100+ psi water pressure.  I don't think any moisture is getting in.


+1

Where the ground freezes, I would suggest burying the PVC pipe below the frost line.  But it would likely survive just fine even if you didn't.


It wasn't the integrity of the pipe itself I was worried about, but the "craftsmanship" that can be expected - especially around the seals - when the average Arfcommer attempts to MacGyver it into a container.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:23:25 PM EDT
Scary times again.


Cat
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:24:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 6:25:22 PM EDT by Tony7189]
If you think it's time to bury then it's actually time to use them in a disorganized and chaotic manner as each individual resisting is eliminated instead of making a stash surviving the day and exacting a well organized plan of retaliation.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:25:55 PM EDT
Bury your guns?

Are you trying to arm the fucking zombies, son?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:30:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kill-9:
Originally Posted By HUMONGO:
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?


It was the parking lot of a shopping center


In a few hundred years anthropologists are going to be having a ball.  
 


HAHA, I'm an archaeologist, and I've always kinda wondered if I'd ever find some stash or another like this.  My crew chief would shit a brick if we did.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:30:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Bury your guns?

Are you trying to arm the fucking zombies, son?


I said bury my stuff.... like my gold jewelry, precious stones, and my collection of vhs movies. I don't currently own a gun.

Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:31:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:31:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By larkinmusic:
They won't do you any good buried.


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:31:36 PM EDT
Please see sigline
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:32:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
If you think it's time to bury them, it's time to use them


You and I need to go drink a beer... First rounds on me...
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:34:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 6:36:02 PM EDT by ftwm]
Weird, cheaperthandirt used to sell burial tubes but now they say "no longer available". I wonder if they sold out, or stopped selling them.


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:34:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Apostrophe:
Originally Posted By C-4:
Originally Posted By ranchhand:
Originally Posted By Apostrophe:

If you do go ahead with it, I'd suggest purchasing a sturdy, strong, watertight container. Something like a Hardigg Storm Case. Don't try to craft something out of PVC pipes or other assorted rubbish. You do not want moisture destroying your weaponry. You'll also need to store plenty of ammo for your weapons to be of any use.


Explain this to me.  PVC can handle 100+ psi water pressure.  I don't think any moisture is getting in.


+1

Where the ground freezes, I would suggest burying the PVC pipe below the frost line.  But it would likely survive just fine even if you didn't.


It wasn't the integrity of the pipe itself I was worried about, but the "craftsmanship" that can be expected - especially around the seals - when the average Arfcommer attempts to MacGyver it into a container.


Oh, don't worry.  Unless someone has two wooden clubs for hands, anyone can learn to glue end-caps onto a PVC pipe.  There really is nothing to it.  And that's the extent of any 'building' they would need to do.  

Some weapons are very amenable to putting into a PVC tube.  An AK underfolder has a very small diameter once you take the pistol grip off.  Pack it in a drop case, vacuum seal it in plastic with a couple of dessicant packs and a screwdriver to re-install the grip and you're good to go.  An AR-15 is wider but it's still do-able if you use a BUIS and take off the grip.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:35:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 6:36:39 PM EDT by Ridge_Runner_5]
Originally Posted By RockHard13F:
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?


I remember reading that.  Was that on ARF or another forum? Didn't they start some massive construction near by, hence the massive gravel dump on top of it?

I DO remember after another poster mentioned it.  It was a shopping center parking lot.


-Ben


How deep did he bury them? They are repaving a garage at my neighbor's house and they dug a hole at least 5 feet deep!

Anything less than 6 to 6.5ft and if they do build something there, I guarantee you someone else now owns those guns...
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 6:38:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:
Originally Posted By RockHard13F:
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Didn't we have a member, a few years ago, buried some of his stuff and went back to find a metric shit-ton of gravel had been dumped on top of it?


I remember reading that.  Was that on ARF or another forum? Didn't they start some massive construction near by, hence the massive gravel dump on top of it?

I DO remember after another poster mentioned it.  It was a shopping center parking lot.


-Ben


How deep did he bury them? They are repaving a garage at my neighbor's house and they dug a hole at least 5 feet deep!

Anything less than 6 to 6.5ft and if they do build something there, I guarantee you someone else now owns those guns...


Why on Earth did the guy bury his stuff in a parking lot? Or was a field that suddenly became a parking lot?
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