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Posted: 12/12/2013 7:14:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 7:14:54 AM EST by williewvr]
How short would a 22 AR with a 14.5 barrel and pinned flash hider appear to be compared to a normal 5.56 SBR?
My 16 in CMMG 22 is the same length as my 14.5 5.56 with pinned flash hider.
If I had the barrel cut to 14.5 and pinned a flash hider to make 16, would it appear to be a standard 12.5-13 in AR?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:16:22 AM EST
Not sure what you are asking...you'd save just the length of the flash hider.

My 14.5 pinned 556 barrel is just about 1.25" shorter than my 16"s after the 51T flash hider is put on.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:18:33 AM EST
the 22 barrel is already set back into the action 1.5 inches.
I guess I'm asking if anyone has done it and if it's worth doing?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:24:37 AM EST
The only way it would look like one is if you chapped the barrel down pretty far and put on a fake suppressor or something along the lines of that.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:26:43 AM EST
This is the 22lr AR I built for my wife. It is a 16" barrel with Spikes fake can that slips over the barrel.

She gets a lot of jealous looks from people at the range thinking she has a suppressed SBR.




Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:28:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Scarpa:
The only way it would look like one is if you chapped the barrel down pretty far and put on a fake suppressor or something along the lines of that.
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Yeah, that looks pretty nice. Probably worth the effort. I wonder if anyone has chopped one down and F1'd it...that'd be really interesting.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:33:02 AM EST
I'm trying for a look like a 12.5.
I have a couple SBRs but want more of a toy that I don't have to worry about.
It'll free up one of my SBR lowers and still look close.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:39:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 7:46:01 AM EST by Sgt911]
You might ask Heat&beat. He did a xm177e2 for me with a .22 barrel and it is pretty short because of the setback when compared to a regular 16" XM177e2. I posted pics last year but it generated little or no interest.

I just checked. It is roughly 1 1/4"shorter than the 16" pinned XM177e2 and roughly 1 1/8" between the grenade ring and the fsb. I used Bricks stuff

I can email you a pick if you like.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:41:02 AM EST
I asked this very question here:
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=15&t=615310
And check this out if you want to be mad jellous:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_15/585761_Finished_my_dedicated__22LR_build_.html

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:47:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sgt911:
You might ask Heat&beat. He did a xm177e2 for me with a .22 barrel and it is pretty short because of the setback when compared to a regular 16" XM177e2. I posted pics last year but it generated little or no interest.

I just checked. It is roughly 1 1/4"shorter than the 16" pinned XM177e2 and roughly 1 1/8" between the grenade ring and the fsb. I used Bricks stuff

I can email you a pick if you like.
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Please
My email is williewvr@ar15.com
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:53:42 AM EST
Just do a pistol with a Sig brace.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:56:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AKengineer:
Just do a pistol with a Sig brace.
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Pass
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:02:12 AM EST
Sig's 522 has a setup with a fake can, as posted above. It slips over most of the exposed barrel and makes it look like an SBR with a can.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:07:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 9:02:54 AM EST by Sgt911]
edit
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:10:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 9:12:23 AM EST by williewvr]

nice toys
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:16:22 AM EST
Correction. The top one was a bravo45 bushmaster moderator
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:20:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By williewvr:
How short would a 22 AR with a 14.5 barrel and pinned flash hider appear to be compared to a normal 5.56 SBR?
My 16 in CMMG 22 is the same length as my 14.5 5.56 with pinned flash hider.
If I had the barrel cut to 14.5 and pinned a flash hider to make 16, would it appear to be a standard 12.5-13 in AR?
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just get a full 16in bbl and get a slip over fake can for it.
looks like an SBR with a real can, and sounds about like it because you are shooting .22lr
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:26:47 AM EST
Here's mine. 16 inch barrel, which is about the same length as a 14.5 (5.56 version), with a fake Spike's can. I also have a 12 inch rail. I went with the fake can, because it was easier to remove, than the flashider, when I do use my buddies real can, or for when I finally get mine.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:31:28 AM EST
Just remember that if you are using a removable .22 conversion unit in a 5.56 barreled upper then you are still building an unregistered SBR if you go this route unless you also have a Registered SBR lower or Pistol lower.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:34:03 AM EST
can i take a M&P 15-22, remove the flash suppressor, and put on a spikes tactical fake can without hitting any legal snafu's?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:43:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 8:43:44 AM EST by Sgt911]
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Originally Posted By sHockz:
can i take a M&P 15-22, remove the flash suppressor, and put on a spikes tactical fake can without hitting any legal snafu's?
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Yes, its already 16" or so without the FH.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:45:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Makarov:
Just remember that if you are using a removable .22 conversion unit in a 5.56 barreled upper then you are still building an unregistered SBR if you go this route unless you also have a Registered SBR lower or Pistol lower.
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Mine was built with a dedicated .22 barrel. I thought that's what he originally asked.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:45:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
This is the 22lr AR I built for my wife. It is a 16" barrel with Spikes fake can that slips over the barrel.

She gets a lot of jealous looks from people at the range thinking she has a suppressed SBR.

http://nullbits.foxxz.net/albums/gun/Pink_AR.sized.jpg


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That's awesome!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:54:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 8:58:28 AM EST by williewvr]
I guess I need to include drawings and subtext.

It will be a 22 upper not a conversion unit.
It's more of a toy/replica of one of my SBRs so I don't have to worry when I'm out at the range goofing off.
I am thinking of pin and welding a flash hider to a 14.5+/- 22 barrel (16 in for ATF purposes) to achieve a 12.5-13 in SBR look.
Fake suppressors on a 16
If I'm having the extra weight I'll use a real one, which means I have to take the damn thing to the can with me if I need to go, so I might as well use a real SBR too, back to square one.
Anything else I need to explain for the clueless??

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 9:00:21 AM EST
Great now I'm becoming a Troll in my own thread.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 9:01:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By williewvr:
Great now I'm becoming a Troll in my own thread.
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You get what you needed from me?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 9:03:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By williewvr:
I guess I need to include drawings and subtext.

It will be a 22 upper not a conversion unit.
It's more of a toy/replica of one of my SBRs so I don't have to worry when I'm out at the range goofing off.
I am thinking of pin and welding a flash hider to a 14.5+/- 22 barrel (16 in for ATF purposes) to achieve a 12.5-13 in SBR look.
Fake suppressors on a 16
If I'm having the extra weight I'll use a real one, which means I have to take the damn thing to the can with me if I need to go, so I might as well use a real SBR too, back to square one.
Anything else I need to explain for the clueless??

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sorry, just think if you are trying to build a fake SBR, a short bbl with a long ass FH to make 16in looks kinda gay...
I think the slip over fake can give its a better look and you still get the 16in MV. and they dont weight anything anyway.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 9:06:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By williewvr:
I guess I need to include drawings and subtext.


Fake suppressors on a 16
If I'm having the extra weight I'll use a real one, which means I have to take the damn thing to the can with me if I need to go, so I might as well use a real SBR too, back to square one.
Anything else I need to explain for the clueless??

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So sorry I tried to be helpful and my rifle is stupid and I am a clueless idiot.



Link Posted: 12/12/2013 9:08:01 AM EST
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You get what you needed from me?
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Originally Posted By Sgt911:
Originally Posted By williewvr:
Great now I'm becoming a Troll in my own thread.

You get what you needed from me?

yes sir beautiful pictures
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 9:13:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By J75player:

just get a full 16in bbl and get a slip over fake can for it.
looks like an SBR with a real can, and sounds about like it because you are shooting .22lr
<a href="http://s27.photobucket.com/user/J75player/media/shooting/P1000919.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c183/J75player/shooting/P1000919.jpg</a>
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Originally Posted By J75player:
Originally Posted By williewvr:
How short would a 22 AR with a 14.5 barrel and pinned flash hider appear to be compared to a normal 5.56 SBR?
My 16 in CMMG 22 is the same length as my 14.5 5.56 with pinned flash hider.
If I had the barrel cut to 14.5 and pinned a flash hider to make 16, would it appear to be a standard 12.5-13 in AR?

just get a full 16in bbl and get a slip over fake can for it.
looks like an SBR with a real can, and sounds about like it because you are shooting .22lr
<a href="http://s27.photobucket.com/user/J75player/media/shooting/P1000919.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c183/J75player/shooting/P1000919.jpg</a>

Nice toy
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