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Posted: 8/24/2004 1:04:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 7:15:43 PM EST by -Absolut-]
just reported on FoxNews! devoloping...
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:08:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:08:30 PM EST by Sturmwehr]
I pray for all the souls on those airliners.

Hopefully, the lost of life is not high, but I fear it might be.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:08:32 PM EST
uhhh.....this could get interesting...but why russian?
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:08:53 PM EST
That sounds like a long shot for a coincidence
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:09:18 PM EST
2 at almost the same time. Accident or Terrorism? Hmmmmm......
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:09:21 PM EST
said at least 60 on the plane confirmed crashed.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:09:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:11:54 PM EST by benbob]

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
uhhh.....this could get interesting...but why russian?





Uh...Ever hear of Chechnya??
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:12:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:13:58 PM EST by Cape_hunter]

(CNN) -- Two passenger planes have crashed in Russia Tuesday night, Russian officials and a news organization said.

A passenger jet carrying 34 passengers and eight crew members in the Tula region crashed about 160 kilometers (100 miles) south of Moscow, the ministry reported.

A second plane went down about 160 kilometers (100 miles) from Rostov-on-Don, in southern Russia, government-run news agency Ria Novosti reported.

A ministry spokeswoman said she could only confirm that the second plane had been lost to radar.

The first plane disappeared from radar at 10:56 p.m. (2:56 p.m. ET), a ministry spokeswoman said.

The Tupolev-134 had taken off from Moscow's Domodedovo Airport and was en route to Volgograd, in southern Russia.

The second plane, a Tupolev-154, disappeared at 11 p.m. (3 p.m. ET) after having taken off from the same airport en route to Sochi in southern Russia, Ria Novosti reported.

There was no immediate word how many people were aboard the second plane.

The Tupolev-154 is a standard medium-range airliner on domestic flights in Russia, according to aviation websites



Have to keep an ye on this one.
CH
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:17:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:19:02 PM EST by TheCynic]
Holy crap - 4 minutes apart and one
happening at the top of an hour. That
has to be some kind of statistical
improbability.


<--
my post number reminds me, I need
to pick up more ammo
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:19:18 PM EST
Crap.

My fear of flying just increased a notch.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:19:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:20:15 PM EST by benbob]
2 aircraft taking off from the same airport disapear/crash at almost the same time. VERY big coincidence if accidential.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:21:36 PM EST

One report from FoxNews said one of them was "shot down".


Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:22:26 PM EST
TOTAL GUESS

A bunch of copy cat chechans (the same group that held the opera hostages) trying to pull off a "getto 9-11 and the first group crashed the plane out of inexperience.

Russia will cover up everything out of embarassment, and in 3 years there will be a special about it on the discovery channel.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:23:29 PM EST
if al queda is fucking with the russians they might have made another big mistake.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:24:10 PM EST
This is RUSSIAN aviation here...

Same country that had an expected 60% reliability rate on their ICBM arsenal...

BOOM!
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:25:06 PM EST
It has to be either a mid-air, or terrorism.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:26:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By benbob:
It has to be either a mid-air, or terrorism.



Separate parts of the country.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:26:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:34:07 PM EST by Offspring]
It was this type of plane
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:27:33 PM EST


Wow! Stunning. Absolutely stunning!

The consequences of George Bush's illegal war with Iraq and his Hitleresque Crusade against Muslims is even spilling over into Russia now!

When will the NEO-CONS learn that Empires don't stop terrorism - they CAUSE terrorism!!!

Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:28:43 PM EST
Maybe the Koreans shot it down as revenge???
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:30:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheCynic:

Originally Posted By benbob:
It has to be either a mid-air, or terrorism.



Separate parts of the country.



Oops. My bad. I guess they were both
south of Moscow. One 110 miles south,
the other 600 miles south.

Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:31:56 PM EST
Hmmmm.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:32:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:34:13 PM EST by Sturmwehr]

Originally Posted By jt325i:
2 at almost the same time. Accident or Terrorism? Hmmmmm......



That's what I was thinking. Strange to happen at the same time.

A midair collision with two airliners is next to impossible unless ATC doesn't exist in the region.

if al queda is fucking with the russians they might have made another big mistake.

If Islamic terrorists are trying to screw over the Russian government, expect a few major cities to become radioactive parking lots within the next few days.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:32:23 PM EST
Just damn!
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:34:49 PM EST
Ummm. . . .Haven't the Russians already been spanked by Muslims twice now?? The Russians need to re-enlist those sniper women from WWII. Don't most Russians live until they are 80 or 90?? They could still make the shots!!
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:35:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:36:54 PM EST by A-nus]
Come on guys we all know it was a US NAVY ship off the coast of Long Island that was in the middle of a traing exersize that shot them down. It will be rulled as a fuel tank explosion.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:35:12 PM EST

Just Reported

Witnesses saw explosion before crash.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:35:29 PM EST
Bad fuel, perhaps? Same place, same fuel depot..
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:36:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
This is RUSSIAN aviation here...

BOOM!





Oh Yeah? Russians are better known for shooting down planes. BTW, they must have a similar record to air crashes as we do.


I smell sabotage.



Moment of silence for the victims.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 1:38:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 1:39:50 PM EST by StariVojnik]

Originally Posted By AZSherman1:
Ummm. . . .Haven't the Russians already been spanked by Muslims twice now?? The Russians need to re-enlist those sniper women from WWII. Don't most Russians live until they are 80 or 90?? They could still make the shots!!





Yeah well WE were helping those same MUSLIMS to fight against the Russians in the 1980's.
Thats why the Ruskies got spanked.


Now its a different ball game, and I hope the Russians exact revenge upon those who just crossed the line.



These damm Mooslims are habitual line steppers!




Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:06:54 PM EST
I bet that the first one got 'jacked and then the second one but say the 2nd one crashed becus the crew fhought the highjackers off and crashed the plane/where not able to regane control and a SAM Battrey/MIG/AAA shot down the other one
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:13:19 PM EST
All networks confriming 2nd plane missing 710pm EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:17:04 PM EST
It's Bush's fault!!
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:20:09 PM EST
*tag*
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:21:24 PM EST
I wonder which European landmark is going up in a ball of flame. WTF is the other plane?..?
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:23:31 PM EST
I,m watching fox now not much info yet. Fuckin Chechens
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:25:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheCynic:
Holy crap - 4 minutes apart and one
happening at the top of an hour. That
has to be some kind of statistical
improbability.



... Not really, happened here on 9/11
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:32:58 PM EST
Since the Liberals will blame Putin and or Bush, I'm going to go ahead and blame the French...
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:35:18 PM EST
Just heard the Russkies have put the FSB (KGB) on case.

Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:38:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:

Originally Posted By TheCynic:
Holy crap - 4 minutes apart and one
happening at the top of an hour. That
has to be some kind of statistical
improbability.



... Not really, happened here on 9/11



Indeed, but I meant for it to be an accident.

Looks like it was not...
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:44:02 PM EST
Highly, highly suspicious. Too much so to seem like coincidence. I would say:

1. Bomb on board
2. Hijackers taking the planes over, then crashing them
3. Sabotage of plane's equipment, although the nearly simulateous timing makes me lean more toward 1 and 2.

I would be surprised if it wasn't an act of terror. What Chechen town is toast by the end of the week fellas? I'm taking bets.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:44:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 2:49:57 PM EST by JHaines]

Originally Posted By benbob:

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
uhhh.....this could get interesting...but why russian?





Uh...Ever hear of Chechnya??



Kind of hard to miss that one.
Presidential elections in Chechnya are set for August 29th.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:48:13 PM EST
FOXNEWS just reported plane 2 down -

thanks shep!
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:58:13 PM EST
Awww hell......hang on....here we go! This shit will never end until we make a glass parking lot out of the middle east (AND FRANCE),These two crashing 3 minutes apart is too much to be accidental..now FOX is saying they both took off from the same airport in Russia....DAMN
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:00:35 PM EST
The Religion of Peace strikes again.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:05:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:
Since the Liberals will blame Putin and or Bush, I'm going to go ahead and blame the French...



Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:06:44 PM EST
Nothing will happen. borrowed without permission from Spectre.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:08:05 PM EST
No reports of what theses planes hit? Why wouldn't "they" have chosen a target of significance?
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:10:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 3:12:17 PM EST by GackMan]

Originally Posted By benbob:
2 aircraft taking off from the same airport disapear/crash at almost the same time. VERY big coincidence if accidential.



contaminated fuel and not terrorists?


what he said:

Originally Posted By Evil_Ed:
Bad fuel, perhaps? Same place, same fuel depot..



note to self... read the thread and THEN post.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:13:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By 2IDdoc:
It's Bush's fault!!



Beat me to it!

Hope the dead died quickly and painlessly.......
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:18:22 PM EST
It has to be the rebels. They've already attacked Moscow, they killed the pro-Russian Chechynan president. The bomb they killed him with was built into the stadium at which he was killed.
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