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5/18/2008 9:14:03 AM EDT
I need to increase the amount of bonds I own to balance my investments. Right now I'm too heavily invested in stocks because the new 401k does not offer a no load bond fund, so I had to move everything into stocks. My brokerage with my IRA has no transaction fee funds. Unfortunately Vanguard is not one of them. I'm looking at either a LB Bond index fund with a slightly higher ER than vanguard or an ultra short US gov bond fund with a .5 ER.  

The LB index seems to pay a better return, but I noticed there is a fairly large percentage of mortgage pass through certificates. I'm a little worried about future sub prime fall out. Am I correct to be worried about this?

The two funds I'm looking at are TWUSX and DBMIX



5/18/2008 9:22:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Between the two you listed, if you are looking for safety in your fixed income exposure I would go with TWUSX as it has less risk - however also know that you will also get a lower return over the long haul.  
5/18/2008 6:20:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks, I've decided on the DBMIX fund.

You wouldn't believe the expenses and sales loads on some of the funds in my new 401k. A couple funds had 5.75% front loads and really high management fees. My company got bought so they are merging our 401k with theirs. They picked the funds your money will transfer to depending on the type of fund you already own. Some people are going to get hit with some big sales loads just on the transfer. It sucks because we used to have such a good 401k with Fidelity. Now it's some insurance company running it.  

They have a fund called the stable value fund which is supposed to be an equivalent to the fidelity money market. The stable value fund costs $2000 for every 10k invested over 10 years and hasn't paid more than 3% ever. It also has a 5.75% front load. What a rip off.
5/18/2008 6:27:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Wow.  Does your company match your contributions?  If not you're better off going on your own.
5/18/2008 6:36:13 PM EDT
[#4]
They do, or at least they did. I haven't seen all of the new companies plan yet. I'm pretty sure they match 50% of the first 6%. Hopefully with cash and not company stock.
5/18/2008 6:47:05 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
They do, or at least they did. I haven't seen all of the new companies plan yet. I'm pretty sure they match 50% of the first 6%. Hopefully with cash and not company stock.

I'd contribute no more than 6% to your 401k (to get the match) and put everything else in an IRA on your own.  Sorry your plan sucks.
5/18/2008 7:32:53 PM EDT
[#6]
I wish I could, but the government has decided I make too much to do both, and the 401k allows me a higher max than the IRA. They do have some good stock funds, so it's not a total loss.
5/18/2008 7:54:55 PM EDT
[#7]
You may make too much for a Roth but there are no limits for a traditional IRA.
5/18/2008 7:57:19 PM EDT
[#8]
True, but I didn't think I could do both.
5/18/2008 7:59:46 PM EDT
[#9]
That relates to being able to deduct your contributions on your tax return, not whether or not you can contribute.
5/20/2008 12:48:40 PM EDT
[#10]
I didn't know that. I'll see about doing both. Thanks
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