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2/24/2009 8:36:57 PM EDT
What's your body armor strategy for the new order?
2/24/2009 8:37:47 PM EDT
[#1]
IBTP
2/24/2009 8:38:05 PM EDT
[#2]
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IBTP


this.

My body armor strategy is "none", since it's illegal.
2/24/2009 8:38:30 PM EDT
[#3]
In on 1....Molle and steel with plenty of ammo
2/24/2009 8:39:25 PM EDT
[#4]
don't have any
Mmmm pie, and then I die.
2/24/2009 8:39:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Level IV Interceptor vest with side plates, shoulder protectors, groin protector and ACH.
I already wear mine whilst shopping at my local Wal-Mart in MOPP 4.
2/24/2009 8:39:40 PM EDT
[#6]
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IBTP


this.

My body armor strategy is "none", since it's illegal.


Body armor is not illegal.

Maj

2/24/2009 8:39:45 PM EDT
[#7]
What do you mean, buying before a ban? SHTF?

I just have a PASGT vest/helmet and ABA 3a with a Impact ST insert.

Would like to get a plate carrier to go over the 3a just for the hell of it but the cost of ceramic plates makes it a no go now.
2/24/2009 8:40:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Some of you need to stop playing COD 4.
2/24/2009 8:40:44 PM EDT
[#9]
why the would body armor be illegal? for the body armor noobs can you post some links to dealers please.
2/24/2009 8:41:16 PM EDT
[#10]
I have been able to buy the exact body armorer and plates(Legally) that I was issued  a few years ago . So i am good to go. That not everything  for it and I have the ACH as well as the other Kevlar piece for the vest.
$900 for the vest
$300 a piece for each front and back plate and 200 for the side plates. The best way is to get you commander to signed off on the purchase right from the companys website and your all set.



2/24/2009 8:42:31 PM EDT
[#11]
Its crossed my mind to pick up a concealable vest.
2/24/2009 8:45:03 PM EDT
[#12]
if the neighborhood gets so bad I need body armour, then Im just gonna move.  
2/24/2009 8:46:12 PM EDT
[#13]
I need NV before I get to body armor, shit gets too hot anyway...  (I live in the desert).
2/24/2009 8:46:20 PM EDT
[#14]
i have a kpot and some level II soft armor and plates
2/24/2009 8:46:21 PM EDT
[#15]
weird.  My town is full of morons, then.  Two FFL's and a cop all said that it was illegal for a civilian to own body armor.  As such, I just never even looked for it.
2/24/2009 8:47:36 PM EDT
[#16]
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weird.  My town is full of morons, then.  Two FFL's and a cop all said that it was illegal for a civilian to own body armor.  As such, I just never even looked for it.


Might be a state thing.
2/24/2009 8:48:49 PM EDT
[#17]
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IBTP


this.

My body armor strategy is "none", since it's illegal.


Only if you're a felon.
2/24/2009 8:49:32 PM EDT
[#18]
I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor
2/24/2009 8:49:57 PM EDT
[#19]
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IBTP


this.

My body armor strategy is "none", since it's illegal.


Only if you're a felon.


Ya its even legal in CA.

At least at the moment.....
2/24/2009 8:51:39 PM EDT
[#20]
isn't it only illegal if you wear it during the commission of a crime...like a add-on charge?

don't quote me on it...heard it at a gunstore.
2/24/2009 8:52:13 PM EDT
[#21]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.
2/24/2009 8:53:18 PM EDT
[#22]
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weird.  My town is full of morons, then.  Two FFL's and a cop all said that it was illegal for a civilian to own body armor.  As such, I just never even looked for it.


I've heard the same thing.  I was at the gun show at the convention center in King of Prussia/Valley Forge, PA a few months ago and heard that anything above Class III was illegal.  This came from a guy representing a manufacturing company that manufactures Kevlar vests in Pennsylvania.
2/24/2009 8:55:14 PM EDT
[#23]
Level IIIA vest from bulletproffme.com.  I got a NIW police trade in Safari Land vest.
2/24/2009 8:55:42 PM EDT
[#24]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


or you could just leave the area...
2/24/2009 8:56:33 PM EDT
[#25]
If money was no object, I think the plate carrier system from Crye Precision would be cool.  And no, it's not just because I drank the Multicam Kool-Aid  The review of it I read at military morons impressed me, seemed like some genuine thought/human engineering went into it.  I was a human factors major, so i think about things like that
2/24/2009 8:56:44 PM EDT
[#26]
$900 for the vest
$300 a piece for each from and back plate and 200 for the side plates. The best way is to get you commander to signed off on the purchase right from the companys website and your all set. It helped that CIF was all out and we got permission to buy our body armor as long as it was straight from the company.
2/24/2009 8:57:33 PM EDT
[#27]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


or you could just leave the area...


He does not want Lootie to jack all his stuff from is house.
2/24/2009 8:57:41 PM EDT
[#28]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


or you could just leave the area...


True, but if its near the home and I am protecting my family i would like the extra cover just in case.
2/24/2009 8:58:31 PM EDT
[#29]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


I guess if when the shooting starts someone will give me a head's up in time to get the vest and put it on.

I would be curious to hear some stories where a non-LEO/.mil used body armor to their advantage.
2/24/2009 9:00:25 PM EDT
[#30]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


or you could just leave the area...


Go read FerFal's experiences in Argentina. It seems armor would be very useful when the amount of lawlessness in your country starts to increase (ala Katrina, for a recent example here). Its not that you will be getting into gun fights everyday, but if someone decides to shoot you in you back for your wallet, you stand a chance.
2/24/2009 9:00:53 PM EDT
[#31]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


I guess if when the shooting starts someone will give me a head's up in time to get the vest and put it on.

I would be curious to hear some stories where a non-LEO/.mil used body armor to their advantage.


If there is ever a riot or if the zombies attack, you will have seen it on the news or you hear gun fire. You will not have  a lot of time but enough to get strapped up. I rather have it then not need it then need it and not have it.
2/24/2009 9:03:13 PM EDT
[#32]
I have a kevlar vest, and I need to pick up some plates some time as well.
2/24/2009 9:09:57 PM EDT
[#33]
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if the neighborhood gets so bad I need body armour, then Im just gonna move.  


you're in canada, you have nothing to worry aboot
2/24/2009 9:16:02 PM EDT
[#34]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


I guess if when the shooting starts someone will give me a head's up in time to get the vest and put it on.

I would be curious to hear some stories where a non-LEO/.mil used body armor to their advantage.


You should check out ferfal's  "things to have" for an economic collapse. He lived it down in Argentina.

Here you go


ETA: it's somewhere in the ferfal archives, can't find it at the moment
2/24/2009 9:20:29 PM EDT
[#35]
The old interceptor is good protection, but horrible ergonomics.  Plus, you move like a giant turtle with all the plates.  The new OTVs look a little better cut and more comfortable (and they have quick-release, though unless you spend a lot of time on bridges/boats, I'm not too sure how useful that is).  The big problem is, someone wearing tactical body armor is gonna be pretty obvious.   I think a III or IIIA concealment vest with a plate carrier to throw on for 'real' SHTF might be more practical, if a little bulkier.
2/24/2009 9:25:18 PM EDT
[#36]
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I'm trying to imagine a use I would have for body armor


When the shooting starts, its better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.


or you could just leave the area...


True, but if its near the home and I am protecting my family i would like the extra cover just in case.


This is my problem, SHTF. I go and get in battle dress ready to defend my home, look over at the rest of my family and they have nothing. Kinda like eating a large pizza in front of your starving family.
So I choose to not have. Don't get me wrong If I were alone in my own home then it would be no issue.

2/24/2009 9:25:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Going to get some concealable armor here in a week or two.

I would like to get a plate carrier and some plates but that's out of my budget.  

2/24/2009 9:53:29 PM EDT
[#38]
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if the neighborhood gets so bad I need body armour, then Im just gonna move.  


you're in canada, you have nothing to worry aboot




you right, ive gots lots of guns, tons of ammo....and free health care...plus no Obama

You can buy armour up here if you want it.
2/24/2009 9:57:25 PM EDT
[#39]
If I could afford it that would be nice, but I could think of many better ways to spend the $$$.  Plus I hate how it weighed me down in Iraq.  

If SHTF, almost all GSWs are fatal.  Not just the 12' area the plate covers.
2/24/2009 10:02:06 PM EDT
[#40]
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IBTP


this.

My body armor strategy is "none", since it's illegal.


Body armor is illegal in PA?

2/24/2009 10:03:55 PM EDT
[#41]
I've looked into getting some IIA or similar. I don't really see a need for it at the moment.  With my luck, I'll get IIIA and some bastard will shoot me with a .338.
2/24/2009 10:05:33 PM EDT
[#42]
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IBTP


this.

My body armor strategy is "none", since it's illegal.


Body armor is not illegal.

Maj



Agreed. To my knowledge body armor is only illegal if you are in posession in while commiting a crime or posess and are a felon.

2/24/2009 10:07:54 PM EDT
[#43]
Already have a plate carrier, will be getting plates sometime soon.
2/24/2009 10:10:47 PM EDT
[#44]
I just spent the last few minutes Googling the legalities of body armor. Seems to be legal in all US states (don't quote me on that though). Only exception is felons. Also, if you use it in a crime that is also an extra mark on your record.





Australia does ban body armor though...that whole Ned Kelly incident...
2/24/2009 10:12:13 PM EDT
[#45]
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if the neighborhood gets so bad I need body armour, then Im just gonna move.  


you're in canada, you have nothing to worry aboot




you right, ive gots lots of guns, tons of ammo....and free health care...plus no Obama

You can buy armour up here if you want it.


and you can wear socks and sandals together with impunity
2/24/2009 10:13:18 PM EDT
[#46]
when they issue ME a vest other than a shitty VN era flak... there are serious issues.
besides, that shit is fucking heavy.
2/24/2009 10:18:51 PM EDT
[#47]
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this.

My body armor strategy is "none", since it's illegal.


Body armor is illegal in PA?



I did a little digging.  I don't think it is.

There's a discussion going on at pafoa.org here about the subject.  It appears body armor is illegal to use, posses, etc. in the commission of a felony.

There really is a misconception about this issue in PA.  A manufacturer of Kevlar vests told me that anything above Class III was illegal in PA.  I have no idea why he said that.
2/25/2009 6:09:32 AM EDT
[#48]
I should have broken the poll down like this:

Go it - I'm military

Got it - I'm LEO

Got- it - I'm ARFCOM

etc....
2/25/2009 6:24:06 AM EDT
[#49]
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weird.  My town is full of morons, then.  Two FFL's and a cop all said that it was illegal for a civilian to own body armor.  As such, I just never even looked for it.


its only illegal in PA if you use it during a crime.  other than that you can legally own it
2/25/2009 6:33:01 AM EDT
[#50]
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weird.  My town is full of morons, then.  Two FFL's and a cop all said that it was illegal for a civilian to own body armor.  As such, I just never even looked for it.


who's the moron for not doing his own research.

the internet has more facts than local yokels.
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