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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:06:32 AM EDT
Turns out vikings do the same thing.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:18:22 AM EDT
I like Black Sails. I just wish they'd STFU once in a while and get back to the actual pirate stuff like blowing ships up and stabbing fools.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:48:12 AM EDT
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Do you think that real pirates talked this much? I kind of envisioned pirates as being more stabby-stabby, hack, hack, hack. These pirates do more talking than raiding and pillaging.  Black Sails | The Best of Black Sails: Silver’s Warning Speech | STARZ |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:50:46 AM EDT
OK, so I finished the last episode and it was pretty good. Less plotting, more keel hauling and not an unsubstantial amount of shooting, stabbing, hacking and throat cutting. This is pirate shit!
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:51:46 AM EDT
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This season is not off to an illustrious start but Blackbeard did endorse your characterization before he was killed during the most recent episode. I assume the verbosity is meant to be a representation of how cunning some of the pyrates were. Rackham isn't at all like the historical person. Long John is fictional so it's easier to take liberties with him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you think that real pirates talked this much? I kind of envisioned pirates as being more stabby-stabby, hack, hack, hack. These pirates do more talking than raiding and pillaging. I go to Long John Silver's on my cheat day, so he's real to me! |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:52:04 AM EDT
Same for POC - "we're not but humble pirates" Captain Jack was also a talker, Barbossa less so.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:55:15 AM EDT
My understanding, from readings in college (history may have been rewritten since then!), is that pirate ships were run democratically with votes not only for the Captainship but where to go and what to attack. That being said I would imagine that there was a fair amount of talking and politicking so that the captain and crew were all on the same page.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:56:15 AM EDT
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Same for POC - "we're not but humble pirates" Captain Jack was also a talker, Barbossa less so.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWUi60RqYA0I loved that movie! I still do. Great film, all the way round. I don't see any flaws in it. One of my Top 10, without question. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:01:01 AM EDT
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OK, so I finished the last episode and it was pretty good. Less plotting, more keel hauling and not an unsubstantial amount of shooting, stabbing, hacking and throat cutting. This is pirate shit!    Black Sails - Blackbeard - "Three Lies" |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:01:14 AM EDT
Well... the hell else are they going to do on ships that go 5 mph?
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:02:46 AM EDT
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Turns out vikings do the same thing. 
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:04:45 AM EDT
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My understanding, from readings in college (history may have been rewritten since then!), is that pirate ships were run democratically with votes not only for the Captainship but where to go and what to attack. That being said I would imagine that there was a fair amount of talking and politicking so that the captain and crew were all on the same page.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:05:58 AM EDT
Don't matter the year, people have always been emotional wrecks.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:09:19 AM EDT
Real pirates probably spent most of their time laying low if they had loot or sailing on the hunt for prizes. And even when they captured prizes they preferred to do so without fighting.
So yeah, I think pirates really did spend a lot of time talking. I'm more amazed that these pirates have all this hot sex with whores and none of them seem to be catching the syph. You'd think at least half the population of Nassau would be syphilitics. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:23:48 AM EDT
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Real pirates probably spent most of their time laying low if they had loot or sailing on the hunt for prizes. And even when they captured prizes they preferred to do so without fighting. So yeah, I think pirates really did spend a lot of time talking. I'm more amazed that these pirates have all this hot sex with whores and none of them seem to bre catching the syph. You'd think at least half the population of Nassau would be syphilitics.  
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:46:41 AM EDT
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Do you think that real pirates talked this much? I kind of envisioned pirates as being more stabby-stabby, hack, hack, hack. These pirates do more talking than raiding and pillaging. Obviously you aren't a veteran. That would have taught you that even soldiers in war spend 99% of their time bored out of their minds and maybe 1% of their time doing cool/exciting/scary shit. Piracy would be no different. If anything itd be even more boring since you'd be spending so much time at sea waiting to find ships weak enough to attack. Not all ships were ripe targets, aka naval vessels, other pirates/privateers, armed merchants...etc. I forget his name but one of the arguments for cannon being a 2A protected right is that one of the founding fathers owned a ship with cannon that he had personally purchased for his merchant vessels. But ya, it might have been a long time between raids or ambushes. What were they supposed to do, just sit around looking cool? If you have a gripe about the realism of the show, get offended by how everybody looks so sexy and clean. Robot Chicken had a skit about something along those lines 
 Jack Sparrow Sex Fantasy | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:09:54 AM EDT
John Wick ain't got nothing on Charles Vane or Blackbeard.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:14:47 AM EDT
I can't recall the name of the book at the moment but taking a historical look at piracy and one of the things that it pointed out was that much of our image of pirates is wrong. Largely propagated by Hollywood is that pirate ships were large, fearsome, heavily gunned ships when in reality most were smaller captured merchant vessels with relatively small crews and rarely mounted more than a couple of canons and a few swivel guns. They mainly preyed on other merchant vessels sailing between islands, not Spanish galleons or other ships of the line which they were no match for.
Merchant vessels were also known to mount canons and swivel guns; some of my mother's ancestors in the Charleston/Edisto Island area listed canons among the ships inventories and the in drawings of some of the old plantation houses you can clearly see gun emplacements along the ground level for defense against pirates. Remember that Teach held Charleston for a short period while demanding medicine to treat the clap. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:35:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2017 7:57:04 AM EDT
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I like Black Sails. I just wish they'd STFU once in a while and get back to the actual pirate stuff like blowing ships up and stabbing fools. Quit watching mid first season. Aren't they blowing each other now? |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 8:22:11 AM EDT
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Do you think that real pirates talked this much? I kind of envisioned pirates as being more stabby-stabby, hack, hack, hack. These pirates do more talking than raiding and pillaging. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 8:55:11 AM EDT
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My understanding, from readings in college (history may have been rewritten since then!), is that pirate ships were run democratically with votes not only for the Captainship but where to go and what to attack. That being said I would imagine that there was a fair amount of talking and politicking so that the captain and crew were all on the same page. one of the first episodes dealt with Flint handling an attempted coup by one of his junior officers. sword fight ( with swords ) settled it in Flint's favor. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 9:01:04 AM EDT
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Real pirates probably spent most of their time laying low if they had loot or sailing on the hunt for prizes. And even when they captured prizes they preferred to do so without fighting. So yeah, I think pirates really did spend a lot of time talking. I'm more amazed that these pirates have all this hot sex with whores and none of them seem to be catching the syph. You'd think at least half the population of Nassau would be syphilitics. VD was rampant. I saw a documentary where a probable pirate vessel was explored and one of the finds was a type of syringe probably used to inject mercury up through the penis as a treatment for the syph. that treatment was also shown in the TV show The Borgias when the younger Borgia son picked up syphilis. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 9:10:29 AM EDT
Best theme/opening ever.
It gets you going before the first scene.  Black Sails | Opening Credits | STARZ |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 9:24:34 AM EDT
I like black sails
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Posted: 2/16/2017 9:27:54 AM EDT
This thread is relevant to my interests.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 12:38:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2017 12:41:22 PM EDT
More importantly, why the fuck didn't they just sink Woods Rodgers sloop?
Why send 2 long boats and remain 1000' away with most of the crew? Writing is getting sloppy |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 1:28:32 PM EDT
I stopped watching it when I found out the captain was homo. every fucking show these days has a homo in it. if you go by the percentage of the population, should't just like 10 or 15% of the shows have homos?..
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:05:31 PM EDT
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I stopped watching it when I found out the captain was homo. every fucking show these days has a homo in it. if you go by the percentage of the population, should't just like 10 or 15% of the shows have homos?.. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:43:57 PM EDT
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Yes, Pirates were a political bunch of radicals with thoughts and beliefs that were a danger to the established order. I don't agree with everything pirates did. But they were a political bunch and it is interesting studying what they fought for and what they believed in and how it later affected modern political theories. Our Constitution had some lineage to ships writs that many pirate crews operated under. Our ideas of democracy also had some roots in the way crews operated with many having degrees of democratic actions governing their choices. Some of our founders operated privateers and engaged in piracy and smuggling themselves. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:51:13 PM EDT
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OK, so I finished the last episode and it was pretty good. Less plotting, more keel hauling and not an unsubstantial amount of shooting, stabbing, hacking and throat cutting. This is pirate shit! He was not keel hauled, it was a port and starboard deal. As I recall from some past pirate reading rarely did anyone survive a keel haul as they usually drowned before the crew could pull them back on board. Great show overall, but I want to see the fake french whore run through 
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:51:55 PM EDT
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