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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:13:43 AM EDT
Why are the damn things TWICE as expensive as the AR version?

Is it because there are 1,000 times more AR's than HK's?

Is it because HK parts are sky high?

I JUST built a brand new trigger pack, and NOW they wave this thing in my face?







https://www.franklinarmory.com/collections/binarytriggers/products/franklin-armory-bfsiii-binary-firing-system-iii-trigger-for-hk
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:15:57 AM EDT
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Dunno

I think the price is retarded and its why I wont buy one
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:16:41 AM EDT
[#2]
Binary triggers are gay.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:17:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Holy Mother ....




Prep me for surgery Doc. 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:17:31 AM EDT
[#4]
My life would have been easier if I didn't know about this product.

Ugh, fine take my money you bastards!
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:18:09 AM EDT
[#5]
Was going to go all WTF on you, but reading the link.......enterdasting......might want.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:19:51 AM EDT
[#6]
And this crap:

"Trigger housing, ejector, ejector pin and ejector spring are not included."

So, $700ish for about four or five parts.

Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:20:12 AM EDT
[#7]
HK parts are $$$. How much is a full auto set-up? This is a fraction of that. You have to decide if either is worth the cost.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:20:41 AM EDT
[#8]
$700 no fucking thanks.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:22:04 AM EDT
[#9]
This is GD, go be poor somewhere else. You want to play the HK game, pay the HK tax.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:22:50 AM EDT
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HK parts are $$. How much is a full auto set-up? This is a fraction of that. You have to decide if either is worth the cost.
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Legal?

About $15k, last time I looked.

Could be double that, the way full autos go.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:24:25 AM EDT
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I had regretted selling my PTR.

sure am happy I don't have it now because I would for sure want to blow money here
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:24:32 AM EDT
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They do have free shipping
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:24:37 AM EDT
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Legal?

About $15k, last time I looked.

Could be double that, the way full autos go.
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Man if you can find an HK sear for 15k send me an IM STAT!
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:24:46 AM EDT
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I per-ordered last month. I can't wait.  Binary triggers are fun. On my MP5 or MP5K it will be VERY fun.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:25:37 AM EDT
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I wonder if it will fit in the HK SP5K
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:25:51 AM EDT
[#16]
I wish Geissele would just produce an SD3G style trigger for HK's instead of wasting money on this binary trigger fuckery
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:28:34 AM EDT
[#17]
Would not buy due to circa 2003 operator in video. When I see truth in advertising like a fat guy mag dumping a mound of dirt with his Century then I'll consider it.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:29:26 AM EDT
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You think for $630 it would at least be complete...

*  Trigger housing, ejector, ejector pin and ejector spring are not included.
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:32:22 AM EDT
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This is GD, go be poor somewhere else. You want to play the HK game, pay the HK tax.
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I'm trying to afford an MP5, $700 for a "auto" trigger seems reasonable.
What's a sear cost? $28k?

Compare it to a $600 PSA AR and $300 binary trigger

Don't want it? Buy a Geissele SD3G for the MP5. Oh wait...
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:34:02 AM EDT
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Binary triggers are stupid unless you are building something like a bumpsaw.


I'm sure the ammo companies love them though.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:36:10 AM EDT
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Binary triggers are stupid unless you are building something like a bumpsaw.


I'm sure the ammo companies love them though.
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I love mine on my AR. It's fun to shoot. I love double tapping hogs. But, I'm not poor so ammo cost doesn't bother me.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:49:00 AM EDT
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https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-standard-length-223/

Looks like the rib on the FCG housing would interfere, but that would make a hell of a combo.  Maybe HMG can mill a smidge off the stamping die so they'll work together.
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:49:21 AM EDT
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I love mine on my AR. It's fun to shoot. I love double tapping hogs. But, I'm not poor so ammo cost doesn't bother me.
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Binary triggers are stupid unless you are building something like a bumpsaw.


I'm sure the ammo companies love them though.
I love mine on my AR. It's fun to shoot. I love double tapping hogs. But, I'm not poor so ammo cost doesn't bother me.
Yeah, because learning to pull the trigger twice is something that has never been dun befo.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:54:04 AM EDT
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I can't see dropping $700 for it right now, but if I have a good year, or the price comes down some, I'm going to be all over that. 

After shooting an auto MP5K, I realize how much is missing from my semi MP5K clone. 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:56:21 AM EDT
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I can't see dropping $700 for it right now, but if I have a good year, or the price comes down some, I'm going to be all over that. 

After shooting an auto MP5K, I realize how much is missing from my semi MP5K clone. 
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The MP5 is my favorite FA to shoot.

I've made a couple of bump fire thingies for my clone, but the binary trigger looks like it will be closer to true FA.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:08:15 AM EDT
[#26]
I bought one for my omega mp5k. I paid for it in June and still haven't got an update in when they are shipping them out
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:09:29 AM EDT
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Legal?

About $15k, last time I looked.

Could be double that, the way full autos go.
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HK parts are $. How much is a full auto set-up? This is a fraction of that. You have to decide if either is worth the cost.
Legal?

About $15k, last time I looked.

Could be double that, the way full autos go.
Double that and you still couldn't get one
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:12:01 AM EDT
[#28]
Is anyone selling belt fed HKs these days, or doing conversions?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:17:18 AM EDT
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And this crap:

"Trigger housing, ejector, ejector pin and ejector spring are not included."

So, $700ish for about four or five parts.

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Because the ejector/ejector spring are different depending on if it is .308/.223 or 9mm/10mm/40.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:18:18 AM EDT
[#30]
Because Binary Triggers are for fags.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:23:05 AM EDT
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I wonder if it will fit in the HK SP5K
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No

I have a POF "MP5K" that is a K barrel in a full size MP5 receiver. The binary will work in that because I use a standard MP5 trigger pack/housing. So that is good and will be fun. If the binary works well for me I will get a second one so my "sort of K" and full size both have it.

But a true K it will not fit. I have a 10mm MP5K and a 10mm MP5 as well and the binary will not work in that either. That would be crazy awesome.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:34:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:35:21 AM EDT
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Because the ejector/ejector spring are different depending on if it is .308/.223 or 9mm/10mm/40.
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And this crap:

"Trigger housing, ejector, ejector pin and ejector spring are not included."

So, $700ish for about four or five parts.

Because the ejector/ejector spring are different depending on if it is .308/.223 or 9mm/10mm/40.
Trigger housing is the most expensive part of those not included, and it's the same for all calibers.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:40:53 AM EDT
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Gotta pay the premium for that HK plastic and stamped sheet metal.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:40:53 AM EDT
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Yeah, because learning to pull the trigger twice is something that has never been dun befo.
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Totes. Who needs full auto. Just finger bang faster.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:44:47 AM EDT
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Because the ejector/ejector spring are different depending on if it is .308/.223 or 9mm/10mm/40.
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And this crap:

"Trigger housing, ejector, ejector pin and ejector spring are not included."

So, $700ish for about four or five parts.

Because the ejector/ejector spring are different depending on if it is .308/.223 or 9mm/10mm/40.
Yup.  I'll just take the ejector out of my current trigger pack and put it into the Binary. Takes just a minute. If everything looks good after awhile I'll sell the original to recoup costs.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:48:19 AM EDT
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No

I have a POF "MP5K" that is a K barrel in a full size MP5 receiver. The binary will work in that because I use a standard MP5 trigger pack/housing. So that is good and will be fun. If the binary works well for me I will get a second one so my "sort of K" and full size both have it.

But a true K it will not fit. I have a 10mm MP5K and a 10mm MP5 as well and the binary will not work in that either. That would be crazy awesome.
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Damn
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:48:25 AM EDT
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Its kinda worthless if they haven't even started shipping them yet. Vaporware?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 11:59:26 AM EDT
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Totes. Who needs full auto. Just finger bang faster.
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Yeah, because learning to pull the trigger twice is something that has never been dun befo.
Totes. Who needs full auto. Just finger bang faster.
Full auto from a shoulder fired rifle by an individual is nearly useless.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:04:04 PM EDT
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Full auto from a shoulder fired rifle by an individual is nearly useless.
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lol
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:05:02 PM EDT
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Full auto from a shoulder fired rifle by an individual is nearly useless.
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Full auto is fun as fuck.

Pretend two round burst is dumb.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:46:52 PM EDT
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Need a couple of these for my Z5K and C93, PTR91 GI, C308 and soon to be Z5RS.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:01:49 PM EDT
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Trigger housing is the most expensive part of those not included, and it's the same for all calibers.
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Except for the G3 and the K.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:03:28 PM EDT
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Full auto is fun as fuck.

Pretend two round burst is dumb.
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HK had a trigger pack that was a two round burst.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:07:59 PM EDT
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HK had a trigger pack that was a two round burst.
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:12:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:16:50 PM EDT
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I wish Geissele would just produce an SD3G style trigger for HK's instead of wasting money on this binary trigger fuckery
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 Yep that would be sweet.. lucky for me I still had an extra PSG1 trigger pack that I changed the Ejector Arm to 9mm. The 3lb pull on my MP5 is sweet and rocks for bumping.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:17:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:18:00 PM EDT
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So how is that any different except for the how it happens? I mean, this is also .02% of the cost of a real HK autosear. Also I appreciate the length you went through in that photo :P
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:21:40 PM EDT
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So how is that any different except for the how it happens? I mean, this is also .02% of the cost of a real HK autosear. Also I appreciate the length you went through in that photo :P
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Because a Binary Trigger essentially allows you to pull a trigger faster, and allows for "bump firing more efficiently". It's make believe full auto/burst, and is only similar to it.
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