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Posted: 10/18/2012 5:27:58 PM EST
Benelli M4 or KSG


Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:28:29 PM EST
M4 with the adjustable stock.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:29:34 PM EST
M1014
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:30:09 PM EST
Benelli M4 gets my vote for sure. Of course that new VEPR 12 gauge looks pretty cool also for a SBS project.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:34:26 PM EST
I just bought an M4 of another member and I love it!!!
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:34:44 PM EST
M fo, fo' sho.

Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:38:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2012 5:39:03 PM EST by bassist]
There is one exception to the ARFCOM rule of "Get both"

Pursuant to ARFCOM Revised Statutes section 5.193, if one contender in a "Which firearm should I get" poll was manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., the opposite contender is the automatic winner.

Subsection B states that If both contenders are manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., then the OP must commit seppuku with an OKC-3S.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:41:18 PM EST
M4, I love mine
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:42:00 PM EST
Benelli. No question.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:42:18 PM EST
It's either the KSG or the purple winged unicorn...

Of course, someone has actually SEEN a purple winged unicorn. I don't know anyone who has seen a real KSG yet.

that also tells you how often I get out these days...
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:44:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Fozzy-:
M4, I love mine

+1 if it was a woman, I'd be having sex with it.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:45:21 PM EST
Never buy a new product on its first production run. Bugs still need to be worked out.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:47:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By bassist:
There is one exception to the ARFCOM rule of "Get both"

Pursuant to ARFCOM Revised Statutes section 5.193, if one contender in a "Which firearm should I get" poll was manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., the opposite contender is the automatic winner.

Subsection B states that If both contenders are manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., then the OP must commit seppuku with an OKC-3S.


I voted Benelli, but both abused rental Kel Tec pistols I fired decided to break on me, and I don't mean failed to fire or fail to eject break, I mean real actual metal parts broke into two.

Part of me wants to chalk it up to being abused rental guns, but my subconscious makes me back away slowly and never go there again.

Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:48:27 PM EST
I'm liking the new M4 H20, get it dipped in multicam...

Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:49:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By stickfigure:
I'm liking the new M4 H20, get it dipped in multicam...

http://www.gunreports.com/media/newspics/Benelli-M4-H20.jpg

Holy S...
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:53:33 PM EST
You spelled SAIGA wrong.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:55:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By stickfigure:
I'm liking the new M4 H20, get it dipped in multicam...

http://www.gunreports.com/media/newspics/Benelli-M4-H20.jpg

Cool, though what $2200 or so?
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:57:08 PM EST
M4 because it has one of the fastest cycle rate of any shotgun.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:57:26 PM EST
You've got to find the KSG before you can buy one.

Benellis, on the other hand, move slow. Availability shouldn't be an issue, and the m4 is a nicely built gun. So, between your choices, that's what I'd get.

However, I think you should also consider the FN SLP which I also read good reviews on, and the value option, the Mossberg 930 Jerry Miculek.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:57:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By TX_M1:
Originally Posted By bassist:
There is one exception to the ARFCOM rule of "Get both"

Pursuant to ARFCOM Revised Statutes section 5.193, if one contender in a "Which firearm should I get" poll was manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., the opposite contender is the automatic winner.

Subsection B states that If both contenders are manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., then the OP must commit seppuku with an OKC-3S.


I voted Benelli, but both abused rental Kel Tec pistols I fired decided to break on me, and I don't mean failed to fire or fail to eject break, I mean real actual metal parts broke into two.

Part of me wants to chalk it up to being abused rental guns, but my subconscious makes me back away slowly and never go there again.



It's no joke. Kel-Tecs are toys at best.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 5:59:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Benelli. No question.


Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:01:30 PM EST
I'm no gun snob but how is this even a question? Benelli obviously
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:02:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By bassist:
Originally Posted By TX_M1:
Originally Posted By bassist:
There is one exception to the ARFCOM rule of "Get both"

Pursuant to ARFCOM Revised Statutes section 5.193, if one contender in a "Which firearm should I get" poll was manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., the opposite contender is the automatic winner.

Subsection B states that If both contenders are manufactured by Kel-Tec CNC Industries, Inc., then the OP must commit seppuku with an OKC-3S.


I voted Benelli, but both abused rental Kel Tec pistols I fired decided to break on me, and I don't mean failed to fire or fail to eject break, I mean real actual metal parts broke into two.

Part of me wants to chalk it up to being abused rental guns, but my subconscious makes me back away slowly and never go there again.



It's no joke. Kel-Tecs are toys at best.



Kel tecs just aren't hard use tools.

Benelli makes hard use gear. My M2 has been abused and always comes back for more
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:09:09 PM EST

Benelli.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:14:50 PM EST
100 percent of the time, I'd choose the Benelli everytime.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:20:24 PM EST
Is this a serious question?
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:23:13 PM EST
Coming from a former KSG owner, go with the Benelli.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:24:08 PM EST
One is a toy, the other is the real deal. Benelli hands down!
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:25:17 PM EST
FN SLP
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:25:28 PM EST
Benelli M4
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:26:03 PM EST
Idiot! Get both.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:46:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By KS-Diesel:
Coming from a former KSG owner, go with the Benelli.


Same here. The M4 is way easier to reload, even more so under stress. In a house with narrow halls, lots of doors, etc., the KSG has size and maneuverability advantage. In any other situation the M4 wins.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:55:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By mleaky:
FN SLP


Yup
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:57:26 PM EST
VEPR 12

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Link Posted: 10/18/2012 6:58:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By stickfigure:
I'm liking the new M4 H20, get it dipped in multicam...

http://www.gunreports.com/media/newspics/Benelli-M4-H20.jpg

Cool, though what $2200 or so?


Considering it has the previously discontinued $500 collapsable stock, a NP3 coating and the extended mag tube, it's about how much it would take to get the standard M4 up to this standard.

Link Posted: 10/18/2012 7:00:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By stickfigure:
Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By stickfigure:
I'm liking the new M4 H20, get it dipped in multicam...

http://www.gunreports.com/media/newspics/Benelli-M4-H20.jpg

Cool, though what $2200 or so?


Considering it has the previously discontinued $500 collapsable stock, a NP3 coating and the extended mag tube, it's about how much it would take to get the standard M4 up to this standard.


Yeah, seems about right. Regardless, you want the best....got to pay.
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 7:06:04 PM EST
Vepr 12
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 7:09:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By stickfigure:
Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By stickfigure:
I'm liking the new M4 H20, get it dipped in multicam...

http://www.gunreports.com/media/newspics/Benelli-M4-H20.jpg

Cool, though what $2200 or so?


Considering it has the previously discontinued $500 collapsable stock, a NP3 coating and the extended mag tube, it's about how much it would take to get the standard M4 up to this standard.


Yeah, seems about right. Regardless, you want the best....got to pay.


A person could get into a cheaper Remington or Mossberg, but if it's down to a Benelli M4, a person is going to be hard pressed to get one under $1400.

Link Posted: 10/18/2012 7:11:40 PM EST
The only correct 12 gauge answer is 870P
Link Posted: 10/18/2012 7:12:53 PM EST
Rifle > Shotgun


Get an 870 or 590 on the cheap and put the rest torwards rifle and/or ammo.
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 2:35:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By Mattl:
Rifle > Shotgun

Shotguns suck but the m4 is were it is at

Link Posted: 10/19/2012 2:38:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 2:40:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/19/2012 2:41:14 AM EST by capnrob97]

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
It's either the KSG or the purple winged unicorn...

Of course, someone has actually SEEN a purple winged unicorn. I don't know anyone who has seen a real KSG yet.

that also tells you how often I get out these days...
Local shop here has the KSG.

They have it at a ridiculous price way above MSRP, so it sits in the shop.

Some dealers just don't seem to mind having a fortune tied up in unsold inventory.

They would rather let it sit for 6 months to make a $400 profit than turn inventory quickly and perhaps sell 4 in that time period for $125 profit each.

Link Posted: 10/19/2012 2:57:42 AM EST
Bennelli M4
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:01:07 AM EST
One's a tool, the other is a novelty in my opinion. Go with the Benelli.
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:03:00 AM EST
Benelli>FN SLP>Saiga>870-590>KSG
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:15:16 AM EST
I prefer a semi-auto to a pump. M4 for the win.
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:22:22 AM EST
I vote Benelli, but the Mossberg 930 JM Pro is next on my list. I'm hearing good things about these shotguns and I got some trigger time on one this summer. Excellent shotgun.
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:27:52 AM EST
Although not a shotgun (or "shotty" in basement arfcom lingo) I have a P3at that I have run many hundreds of rounds through and has stood up really well. I find myself liking KelTec, even though the name sounds more like some company that makes cheap kitchen appliances advertised on TV than a firearms company.
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:35:15 AM EST
I have a Benelli M4 and it has been flawless.




Link Posted: 10/19/2012 3:38:00 AM EST
You want a new gun....Get the Benelli M4.
You want a toy.....Get the KSG.


*own the Benelli M4 and anf love it.
*I have shot the KSG I like it but I would wait till the kinks are worked out.
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