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5/23/2008 4:43:29 PM EDT
I'm having a barbeque this weekend and I'm gonna be serving a lot of beer. My plan is to have it out in several iced tubs around my yard.

Here's the thing, I've heard if I ice beer and then remove the unused bottles from the ice and store them for later use, they won't taste right. Essentially you can't cool/warm/cool beer, even if the bottles are sealed. They'll get "skunk" as my friend said so eloquently.

True or false?
5/23/2008 4:44:19 PM EDT
[#1]
I wouldn't know, no beer has ever survived long enough around me for that theory to be tested.
5/23/2008 4:44:31 PM EDT
[#2]
I agree with that, but that may just be me....I think beer tastes like shit when its been cold/warm/cold
5/23/2008 4:45:12 PM EDT
[#3]
I never buy warm beer and never let it warm after buying it.
5/23/2008 4:46:29 PM EDT
[#4]
True.
5/23/2008 4:46:30 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I never buy warm beer and never let it warm after buying it.


+1
5/23/2008 4:46:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Get Keystone light and it wont matter.
5/23/2008 4:47:54 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I wouldn't know, no beer has ever survived long enough around me for that theory to be tested.


me too
5/23/2008 4:48:07 PM EDT
[#8]
I think your friend is full o' shit.  I've never had a problem with rechilled beer
5/23/2008 4:48:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Once it gets cold I never let it get warm. I think it does get skunky


5/23/2008 4:49:54 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Get Keystone light and it wont matter.


Now that's funny.

But yes beer will get a nasty taste if cooled , warmed , and recooled.

It is safe to drink however as long as sealed , and sometimes it alters the taste , but not necessarilly makes it "Bad".

Have fun at the BBQ - and just drink all the beer...

-JC
5/23/2008 4:50:30 PM EDT
[#11]
False.  Skunk beer happens with exposure to light.  Brown bottles are resistant.  Green and clear?  No good.  That is why Rolling Rocks are now shipped in complete, light-blocking boxes.

Brown glass of forget it.

And if you need someone to help you finish the beer, give me a shout!
5/23/2008 4:50:58 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I never buy warm beer and never let it warm after buying it.


Those of us who live in Oklahoma have no choice
5/23/2008 4:51:26 PM EDT
[#13]
Don't let it get real hot and keep it out of the sunlight.  Sunlight will skunk the beer.
5/23/2008 4:51:31 PM EDT
[#14]
true statement.

Think of beer like bread.  it has many of the same ingredients, and is under many of the same processes, and the same rules apply.  beer should be stored in a cool, dark place such as in an indoor closet or ideally a refrigerator.  even in an iced tub, beer out in the sun is bad news.  light is beer's worst enemy.  that's why most beers come in brown bottles-- to reduce the ammout of light the comes in contact with the beer, thus providing a longer shelf life.

if you're putting out shit beer like Bud or Keystone it doesn't really matter, as that beer tastes like shit to begin with, and only serves as a means to a buzz, but if you're putting out beer for people who enjoy beer, then you would do well to only put out as much as will be consumed, and keep more in reserve in doors.
5/23/2008 4:53:25 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Get Keystone light and it wont matter.



Cause it tastes like shit either way..............
5/23/2008 4:58:06 PM EDT
[#16]
OK, poll inbound.

STFB.
5/23/2008 4:59:18 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I'm having a barbeque this weekend and I'm gonna be serving a lot of beer. My plan is to have it out in several iced tubs around my yard.

Here's the thing, I've heard if I ice beer and then remove the unused bottles from the ice and store them for later use, they won't taste right. Essentially you can't cool/warm/cool beer, even if the bottles are sealed. They'll get "skunk" as my friend said so eloquently.

True or false?


FREE BEER AT DOW'S HOUSE!!!!!!
5/23/2008 4:59:33 PM EDT
[#18]
I think exposure to light has more to do with degrading the taste of beer than chilling/rechilling.  I never noticed any difference with rechilled beer.
5/23/2008 4:59:34 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Don't let it get real hot and keep it out of the sunlight.  Sunlight will skunk the beer.


+1 green beer
5/23/2008 4:59:53 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Get Keystone light and it wont matter.



Cause it tastes like shit either way..............


As I have never participated in fecal eating...
5/23/2008 5:00:11 PM EDT
[#21]
Generally false. But it depends on how warm the beer gets.

Warmed to room temperature after being cooled really isn't a problem.  Warmed to 80 or 90 degrees can be a problem over time. Depends on how hot and for how long.

Even beer cooled for a long period of time can go bad.  My late grandmother gave me a beer once that had been refrigerator cooled for FIVE YEARS, it was not drinkable. I still laugh over it.

It also depends on the color of the bottle. Brown bottles protect the beer from light better than green bottles. Beer in green bottles can get skunky very quickly when exposed to light.  

Keep your beer cool, in the dark and in brown bottles, and consume (generally) within 6 months, and you're good.

Naturally conditioned beer can have a longer life (Try and find some Thomas Hardy's Ale)  extending into decades if kept properly. But, your average Michelob, or Miller is best "fresh."





5/23/2008 5:01:20 PM EDT
[#22]
100% true. most people won't be able to tell the difference.

i would however.........
5/23/2008 5:01:52 PM EDT
[#23]
The original cans sucked because the barrier coatings were shitty.  But today? Nearly as good as glass.

Cans are lighter, cool faster, more value (in most states) and transportable in crushed form.

Cans over bottles in my world.
5/23/2008 5:02:42 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Get Keystone light and it wont matter.



Cause it tastes like shit either way..............


As I have never participated in fecal eating...

I prefer natural ice.
5/23/2008 5:03:40 PM EDT
[#25]
Cans are fine by me too
Best beer in a can = Dale's Pale Ale
5/23/2008 5:05:31 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Cans are fine by me too
Best beer in a can = Dale's Pale Ale


Care to ship me a case or two so I can judge?
5/23/2008 5:12:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Oskar Blues brewery is closer to you than to me...
BTW, the local supplier stopped carrying it, sucks for me
5/23/2008 5:13:33 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
I wouldn't know, no beer has ever survived long enough around me for that theory to be tested.


+1
5/23/2008 5:14:35 PM EDT
[#29]
it might not be skunky, but there's often a very slight "there's something funny about this beer" taste. Never enough for me to put down a bottle.
5/23/2008 5:23:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Light is beer's main enemy. Going from cold, to warm, to cold doesn't USUALLY affect taste.
5/23/2008 5:43:13 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Light is beer's main enemy. Going from cold, to warm, to cold doesn't USUALLY affect taste.


As a homebrewer, I have to disagree.

Proper temperature storage is VERY important.

Now if you (you being the general public) are just a typical redneck beer drinker and do not care particularly about how your beer tastes, then perhaps it doesn't make a difference.

If this makes me a "Beer Snob" - so be it.....

A good link:

Beer Storage
5/23/2008 5:46:33 PM EDT
[#32]
"skunk" is due to light contamination due to clear bottles. there are bacteria that make that skunk flavor, they feed on light
5/23/2008 6:29:05 PM EDT
[#33]
When I drank ANY beer was good as long as it wasn't to hot to burn your tongue....
5/23/2008 6:35:47 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
"skunk" is due to light contamination due to clear bottles. there are bacteria that make that skunk flavor, they feed on light



Nope.  Isomerization of alpha acids from the hops.  A photochemical reaction.
5/23/2008 6:37:08 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
"skunk" is due to light contamination due to clear bottles. there are bacteria that make that skunk flavor, they feed on light



Nope.  Isomerization of alpha acids from the hops.  A photochemical reaction.


my way is cooler
5/23/2008 6:40:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Mass of people.  Free rechilled cold beer.  No problem.

Eta rechilled sounds gay.
5/23/2008 6:45:41 PM EDT
[#37]
Explain canned beer then, what dictates the flavor difference in two cans with similar canning dates? Not, doubting any

one but would like to know.


5/23/2008 6:45:43 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
"skunk" is due to light contamination due to clear bottles. there are bacteria that make that skunk flavor, they feed on light



Nope.  Isomerization of alpha acids from the hops.  A photochemical reaction.


my way is cooler


But wrong.  Bacteria cannot live on light in a solution containing ethanol without oxygen.  Bacteria with oxygen can convert the ethanol to acetic acid (vinegar) but they don't need light.

The bacteria that can "feed" on light are the cyanobacteria, AKA blue-green algae.  While there is sufficient CO2 in the bottle, the pH is way too low from the ioinization of the CO2 dissolved in the water.  The ethanol inhibits any growth.

In bottled beer, no bacteria can grow.
5/23/2008 7:23:51 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Get Keystone light and it wont matter.

+1
5/23/2008 7:27:20 PM EDT
[#40]
i have a whole fridge just for beer so  yah i dont worry about it, oh and heineken kegs = none of that skunk bottled taste

heineken 5L kegs+ heineken beertender machine = sex
5/23/2008 7:28:09 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
i have a whole fridge just for beer so  yah i dont worry about it, oh and heineken kegs = none of that skunk bottled taste

heineken 5L kegs+ heineken beertender machine = sex


Too bad it is with yourself
5/23/2008 7:33:06 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
Here's the thing, I've heard if I ice beer and then remove the unused bottles from the ice and store them for later use, they won't taste right. Essentially you can't cool/warm/cool beer, even if the bottles are sealed. They'll get "skunk" as my friend said so eloquently.

True or false?


I have a buddy who is very particular about his beer. He hates pilsner. He once whined because the 20 minute trip home from the store was going to allow the beer to get warm. If we walk into a restaurant and learn they only serve Bud Light, he'll walk out. So. One time I had a case of pilsner Urquell sit in my trunk for two days due to a brain fart. I park outside and it must have gotten over 100 F in there. I got it into the refrigerator a few hours before he arrived. During dinner, he remarked that this was the first pilsner he liked!

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