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8/18/2009 1:29:15 PM EDT
Sorry I don't know how to embed..
8/18/2009 2:38:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Attack Plan "R", for Robert.

How many frickin' planes was that?

15 B-52's x 70,000 pounds of ordinance = 525 tons of love.
8/18/2009 3:00:37 PM EDT
[#2]
That is pretty impressive!
8/18/2009 3:14:38 PM EDT
[#3]
A little over 30 seconds between planes.

As a child of the cold war, how many of those would have gotten off the ground if the Soviets launched without warning?  I assume none of them, except perhaps whatever couple planes were on alert?
8/18/2009 5:18:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Wow, Cartridge starts. I was always impressed when the elephant walk began. Only thing missing was all the black smoke from the G models.
8/18/2009 5:28:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Most impressive and smokey...

8/18/2009 6:04:04 PM EDT
[#6]
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Wow, Cartridge starts. I was always impressed when the elephant walk began. Only thing missing was all the black smoke from the G models.




According to the caption on the video, those were "G" models.
8/18/2009 6:27:01 PM EDT
[#7]
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Wow, Cartridge starts. I was always impressed when the elephant walk began. Only thing missing was all the black smoke from the G models.




According to the caption on the video, those were "G" models.


Video from 2009 = not "G" models.

I hoped they checked to make sure none of them had live ACM's uploaded.
8/18/2009 8:16:48 PM EDT
[#8]
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Wow, Cartridge starts. I was always impressed when the elephant walk began. Only thing missing was all the black smoke from the G models.




According to the caption on the video, those were "G" models.


Video from 2009 = not "G" models.

I hoped they checked to make sure none of them had live ACM's uploaded.


If those were "G" models, by the time #2 or #3 went by, all they would be recording is black smoke, and lots of noise.

8/18/2009 9:10:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?
8/18/2009 9:37:26 PM EDT
[#10]
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Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?


Three reasons:

1)  Because they're cool!

2)  Because they can!

3)  They were designed back when Men were Men and there were no libtarded enviro-treehuggers.

8/18/2009 10:01:08 PM EDT
[#11]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq6Hpxyrhyo&feature=related

I think they burn coal.
8/18/2009 10:12:58 PM EDT
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Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?


Older model B-52's (A-G models) used water injection to boost thrust on takeoff. When water was sprayed into the motor, lots of black smoke magically appeared. Older KC-135's also used the water injection process.
8/19/2009 5:54:32 AM EDT
[#13]
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Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?


Older model B-52's (A-G models) used water injection to boost thrust on takeoff. When water was sprayed into the motor, lots of black smoke magically appeared. Older KC-135's also used the water injection process.


The mighty J-57, built when man thought he could burn water.
8/19/2009 7:51:30 AM EDT
[#14]



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Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?




Older model B-52's (A-G models) used water injection to boost thrust on takeoff. When water was sprayed into the motor, lots of black smoke magically appeared. Older KC-135's also used the water injection process.


Ahh thanks for the info.




 
8/19/2009 9:12:46 AM EDT
[#15]
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Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?


Older model B-52's (A-G models) used water injection to boost thrust on takeoff. When water was sprayed into the motor, lots of black smoke magically appeared. Older KC-135's also used the water injection process.

Ahh thanks for the info.
 


And current ones put out a decent amount of smoke because there are eight old generation TF-33 motors that aren't as efficient as newer designs.
8/19/2009 2:46:58 PM EDT
[#16]







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According to the caption on the video, those were "G" models.







Nope.




I remember reading once (with artist's conception) an article about a Boeing proposal to re-engine the B-52 fleet with four PW2000s RB-211s.


The Air Force's response was, "Thanks, but no thanks.  With the retirement of the C-141Bs, there's enough spare TF-33s to last."
 
8/19/2009 7:03:54 PM EDT
[#17]
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Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?


Three reasons:

1)  Because they're cool!

2)  Because they can!

3)  They were designed back when Men were Men and there were no libtarded enviro-treehuggers.



8/19/2009 7:06:07 PM EDT
[#18]
I'd say that whoever is on the receiving end of that is fooked. Big time.
8/19/2009 11:51:04 PM EDT
[#19]
I used to live at Fairchild AFB during the 70s when Dad was a BUFF pilot in Fs and Gs.  The alert forces were armed with Hound-Dog missles.  When the base pulled an ORI the planes would launch with a requirement of eight minutes to the first AC off the ground.  It was an awesome sight with a KC-135 running water injection followed 30 second later by a B-52 with all eight engines  spewing black smoke from the water.  The KCs took off first and the BUFFs would take off with less than full fuel to top off when they caught the KC.  

You should check out "A Gathering of Eagles" with Rock Hudson for a pretty accurate look at a SAC base during an Alert.

Keith
8/20/2009 5:57:23 AM EDT
[#20]
When I first got to Dyess back in '82, I saw SAC launch all 5 KC-135A's & 5 B-52D's off the Alert Pad for an ORI.

It was a calm morning & the smoke lingered for a long time.

One of My fondest USAF memories!



The Ol' Crew Chief
8/21/2009 6:29:54 AM EDT
[#21]
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Why do B-52's produce so much black smoke?


Older model B-52's (A-G models) used water injection to boost thrust on takeoff. When water was sprayed into the motor, lots of black smoke magically appeared. Older KC-135's also used the water injection process.

The first DC-8s and 707s used that too. The later turbofan versions smoked less(today would be considered alot),as they didn't need use of water injection. Water injection was a PITA,as it used distilled water,plus it weighted alot.
8/21/2009 6:45:04 AM EDT
[#22]
A great video to show to a Prius driver
8/21/2009 8:11:50 AM EDT
[#23]
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Wow, Cartridge starts. I was always impressed when the elephant walk began. Only thing missing was all the black smoke from the G models.




According to the caption on the video, those were "G" models.
"G" models were turbojet,"H" models are turbofan,as you can see the fan's outlet on the nacelle. Older engine DC-8s(JT-3D) would also smoke like this,along with the loud crackling sound. Sucked to be on the ramp and downwind of one too.