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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:18:18 PM EDT
Ok guys, it's another "what tire is best thread!".
My Tundra and Wrangler are due for tires and I'm a bit bummed since I'd rather spend the money on ammo. 
I have had Bridgestone Dueler Revo 2's, Michelin LTX A/T 2, the older BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO (probably close to 6 sets), and Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor's or something like that. I just saw a commercial about the new BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2's. The sidewall looks more aggressive and the tire looks great. I was hoping to see anyone has had a chance to run them or done research on them. I'm on the fence between these and the Goodyear Dura-trac's. As much as I would love to run MT/R's, it's just not practical and I don't hit the trails enough due to my schedule. Both the new BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 and Dura-tracs have the snowflake. Both are aesthetically pleasing on a slightly lifted jeep/truck. Both will be used on daily drivers on mostly highway and the occasional gravel/dirt trails. I'd like to use these tires year round without having to switch out to snowtires. So where does everyone stand? Any tires that you would suggest? Any feedback on the Dura-tracs or BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2? |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:28:39 PM EDT
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Pretty good time write-up
WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD http://expeditionportal.com/where-the-rubber-meets-the-road/ Expedition Portal is My other favorite website. Dedicated off-road and overland guys. I trust their opinions. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:32:22 PM EDT
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I just bought the BFG K02's for my truck.
I've been happy with them so far. I've had A LOT of different truck tires - Toyo, Nitto, Goodyear - nothing compares to the BFG AT KO. Best tires in my experience, by far. FYI - Not sure if this is a Canada thing or not, but the BFG's come with a $75 or $100 mail in rebate as well. Or at least mine did, and I think the offer is good until mid-December or so. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:32:33 PM EDT
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Pretty good time write-up WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD http://expeditionportal.com/where-the-rubber-meets-the-road/ Expedition Portal is My other favorite website. Dedicated off-road and overland guys. I trust their opinions. That's a helluva article. Thank you! |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:33:22 PM EDT
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I love my General Grabber AT2's on my Liberty CRD. May want to look into them.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:37:24 PM EDT
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I've had two sets of BFG A/Ts and they're a well built tire but useless as fuck.
Piss poor traction on any surface except rough asphalt. Loud as mud tires. HYDROPLANE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER when it rains. Just get mud tires or highway tires. Anything in between sucks. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:38:53 PM EDT
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:41:14 PM EDT
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. Most definitely agree with the BFG comment. We're using the General Grabbers on two different trucks right now and they are fantastic and a fair price. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:43:17 PM EDT
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Cooper A/T-3
You're welcome.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:45:16 PM EDT
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Ive had Duratracs for several years on my Jeep. Im very happy with them. Done just fine off road and in snow. I have a few root gouges in sidewalls but never punctured one yet. They are a little noisy but understandable.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:45:26 PM EDT
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Toyo Open Country.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:45:53 PM EDT
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I love my General Grabber AT2's on my Liberty CRD. May want to look into them. I'm strongly considering those for my CUCV 1009. If I could find the original Wrangler style the military put on them, I would consider those, too. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:52:00 PM EDT
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. Ummm not sure of what you said is correct. The duratracs are what most of the serious off roaders that drive xterras use. Most have a 285/75/16 The one positive I have always read is that they have an extremely stiff sidewall. That being said I guess they are pretty noisy and you HAVE to stay on top of rotation. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:52:56 PM EDT
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Duratracs FTW. Good in snow, light mud and all day on the highway too.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:58:17 PM EDT
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. The BFG KO2's were just updated and released at the beginning of this month. I just put a set on my Wife's 4runner but of course it's too early to have a judgement on them. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:59:36 PM EDT
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Anyone have experience with these?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-31X10.50R15LT/11983156 |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:01:29 PM EDT
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The BFG KO2's were just updated and released at the beginning of this month. I just put a set on my Wife's 4runner but of course it's too early to have a judgement on them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. The BFG KO2's were just updated and released at the beginning of this month. I just put a set on my Wife's 4runner but of course it's too early to have a judgement on them. I know. It's the same outdated tread pattern as the old design. Buddy of mine just got a set. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:02:28 PM EDT
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Ummm not sure of what you said is correct. The duratracs are what most of the serious off roaders that drive xterras use. Most have a 285/75/16 The one positive I have always read is that they have an extremely stiff sidewall. That being said I guess they are pretty noisy and you HAVE to stay on top of rotation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. Ummm not sure of what you said is correct. The duratracs are what most of the serious off roaders that drive xterras use. Most have a 285/75/16 The one positive I have always read is that they have an extremely stiff sidewall. That being said I guess they are pretty noisy and you HAVE to stay on top of rotation. Ive had mine ( Duratracs) offroad quite a bit and on the beach. I air down to 18-20 and have had zero issues. I run pure synthetic in the Jeep so oil changes at 6K miles and tire rotation at same time. Absolutely no cupping or any uneven wear issues what so ever. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:03:11 PM EDT
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Ummm not sure of what you said is correct. The duratracs are what most of the serious off roaders that drive xterras use. Most have a 285/75/16 The one positive I have always read is that they have an extremely stiff sidewall. That being said I guess they are pretty noisy and you HAVE to stay on top of rotation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. Ummm not sure of what you said is correct. The duratracs are what most of the serious off roaders that drive xterras use. Most have a 285/75/16 The one positive I have always read is that they have an extremely stiff sidewall. That being said I guess they are pretty noisy and you HAVE to stay on top of rotation. I like Duratracs but I assure you the one weak spot with them is weak sidewalls. Serious off roaders don't use AT tires anyway. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:05:53 PM EDT
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. I'm guessing this is the original BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A's and not the recently updated version??? |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:07:56 PM EDT
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I know. It's the same outdated tread pattern as the old design. Buddy of mine just got a set. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. The BFG KO2's were just updated and released at the beginning of this month. I just put a set on my Wife's 4runner but of course it's too early to have a judgement on them. I know. It's the same outdated tread pattern as the old design. Buddy of mine just got a set. Well I will definitely say something if the "updates" they did don't hold up. FWIW I prefer the Toyo Open Country ATII tires I have on my truck but they were $50 more per tire in the size the 4runner needed. At least I can say their new sidewall design looks pretty good. 
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cooper A/T-3 You're welcome. Better than a 40yo+ tread design. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:14:03 PM EDT
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I bought new dueler a/t revo 2 yesterday. Firestone has 25% off yesterday, comes out to buy 3 get one free. $780 OTD with road hazard. 275/75/16. Check to see if they still have the deal going on.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:17:37 PM EDT
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4 months ago I put 4 BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A on my Chevy 4X4. I couldn't be happier. They are quiet on the highway, and are grippy in the rain. Snow is coming, time will tell if it holds the road.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:20:44 PM EDT
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I can't vouch for the tires mentioned, but will say that I have no complaints regarding my original BFG Radial T/A KO's. They've been on my XJ since February 2006, currently have 60,000 miles on them, and are nowhere near worn out yet. They have always been awesome in snow, and I've driven unplowed roads that had over 12" of snow on them not counting any drift height. I'll give serious consideration to the KO2's when I buy new tires for the F-150 next year.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:23:47 PM EDT
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You're welcome. Better than a 40yo+ tread design. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cooper A/T-3 You're welcome. Better than a 40yo+ tread design. Everything is. BFG just changes the look of the sidewall and keeps rocking the decades old tread design. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:27:09 PM EDT
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The Cooper AT/3 is a good one, also its LT version the ATP. I have a set of GYSA C rated on my 4 Runner now and they have been great in the snow so far. With my annual milage and deployment schedule I think they will last me several years.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:32:03 PM EDT
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I have duratracs on my truck. I like them. They are quiet on the road and gret in mud and snow. Not much experience in the rain though. I did a LOT of research and these seemed the best for my weather and off road needs. And they are GREAT off road.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:32:05 PM EDT
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Just got a set of Nitto Terra Grappler G2 and they now come with a 65,000 mile tread warranty.
They are reasonably quiet and had good traction in the snow we just had here. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:32:06 PM EDT
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really like the Revos I put on my dually, great traction in snow/ice
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:32:36 PM EDT
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I used to run the BFGs, but after a bunch of reccomendations from here and a co worker who once managed a tire shop, I went with the Cooper ATP. They are pretty much the AT3, just sold at Discount Tire. They were almost $400 cheaper as a set that the BFGs. I love them so far. Good dirt road traction, and they are worlds quieter than the BFGs. Definetly the quietest all terrain I've ever heard.
I will add that I never had a problem with the BFGs, and price was most of my decision to switch. Also, I've never used the Duratracs, but I know people that swear by them. ETA I just saw you were asking about snow. Sorry, I can't help you there, don't get much of that in S. Texas. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:35:55 PM EDT
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Any comparison for the BFG AT KO vs the KO2?
I had the ATs and then the AT KO for almost 20 years on various trucks(I could get them cheap). They were very quiet, decent in snow, OK on ice, and absolutely sucked in wet weather asphalt or coal mine clay. I've since switched to the Cooper Discoverer AT3 and am thrilled with the tire in all conditions despite it being a cunt hair louder than the BFGs. Always looking for new options. 
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:40:55 PM EDT
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Anyone have experience with these? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-31X10.50R15LT/11983156 I run those on my Tacoma in the fall/winter and my 4Runner year round. Traction seems to be great, even in snow and ice. Tire is of course slightly louder than an average AT tire. No failure or chunking. Tread wear seems quite even and they are wearing well but I rotate every oil change. The E load range ones rode rough on my Tacoma so I put them on my 4Runner and got a set in C load range for the Tacoma. Much better. Price is great too! |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:44:27 PM EDT
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Pretty good time write-up WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD http://expeditionportal.com/where-the-rubber-meets-the-road/ Expedition Portal is My other favorite website. Dedicated off-road and overland guys. I trust their opinions. I love this site too. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. I just replaced my Mickey Thompson STZ's with BFG KO2's. The MT's were literally the worst tire I've ever used. Different strokes for different folks. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:53:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I run those on my Tacoma in the fall/winter and my 4Runner year round. Traction seems to be great, even in snow and ice. Tire is of course slightly louder than an average AT tire. No failure or chunking. Tread wear seems quite even and they are wearing well but I rotate every oil change. The E load range ones rode rough on my Tacoma so I put them on my 4Runner and got a set in C load range for the Tacoma. Much better. Price is great too! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone have experience with these? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-31X10.50R15LT/11983156 I run those on my Tacoma in the fall/winter and my 4Runner year round. Traction seems to be great, even in snow and ice. Tire is of course slightly louder than an average AT tire. No failure or chunking. Tread wear seems quite even and they are wearing well but I rotate every oil change. The E load range ones rode rough on my Tacoma so I put them on my 4Runner and got a set in C load range for the Tacoma. Much better. Price is great too! The Walmart GY Authority is a rebadged and slight different tread than the Duratrac. Another rebadged and slightly different tread option is the Kelly Safari TSR....both of these tires are assembled on the same line as the Duratrac. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:53:25 PM EDT
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Good timing on this,I am looking now as well. Considering the BFG ATs too.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:56:33 PM EDT
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Toyo Open Country. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:09:30 PM EDT
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I know. It's the same outdated tread pattern as the old design. Buddy of mine just got a set. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. The BFG KO2's were just updated and released at the beginning of this month. I just put a set on my Wife's 4runner but of course it's too early to have a judgement on them. I know. It's the same outdated tread pattern as the old design. Buddy of mine just got a set. Well I hope it doesn't RAIN where he lives. I've had a set on my F150, for several years. They wear great But they totally SUCK ASS in the rain. Hell I just sit there and my tires spin. Ok in snow, suck in Mud. They don't clean out worth a shit. I'm looking to dump them and I don't quite have 20,000 miles on them. I just don't trust them anymore! 
Oh yea I live out in the country away from town. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:18:10 PM EDT
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I just replaced my Mickey Thompson STZ's with BFG KO2's. The MT's were literally the worst tire I've ever used. Different strokes for different folks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BFG's are the most overrated tire of all time. Outdated shit IMO. Duratrac are better although the sidewalls are too weak for off road use. I'd go Cooper/Mickey Thompson. I just replaced my Mickey Thompson STZ's with BFG KO2's. The MT's were literally the worst tire I've ever used. Different strokes for different folks. The MT tires I had also sucked, I had never seen tires wear as poorly as those. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:18:54 PM EDT
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I was in the same delema and ended up getting Goodyear authority A/t from Wally World
So far good to go 
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:21:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:24:08 PM EDT
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My 2013 Silverado came with Michelin LTX A/T 2. They are absolutely the worst tires I have ever had no good on snow no good on wet pavement. DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY ON Michelin LTX A/T 2. The truck was 10 months old and I had to buy new snow tires. That was about 1K dollars I did not have at the time.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:24:13 PM EDT
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I've been using Duratracs on my Land Rovers- best all around tire I've found in years and years of experimenting.
The Wal Mart Duratrac lookalike is NOT the same- the sidewalls are way weaker. Run the Duratrac in a heavier load rating if you need stronger sidewalls. I only ever blew one on a rock, but no tire would have survived my mistake in that case. The BFG AT was good in its day... |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:24:40 PM EDT
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I just bought a new set of the BFG A/T T/A KO's and I absolutely love them.
I run on wet surfaces over 50% of the time and the wet traction is awesome. Ride is smooth but this is a rigid sidewall so expect to get more feel of the road or "feedback" from your rig. Noise was not a factor and I do not see any difference in fuel economy but I love the aggressive tread and overall looks of the tire. Previous OEM set was BFG rugged trail T/A and these blow them away. I am running these on a Nissan Frontier V6 4X4 with 265 HP and I am not getting any wheelspin, these hook up. Yes, I could have bought any tire out there, I have ran many types. These are very good tires. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:28:01 PM EDT
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I was in the same delema and ended up getting Goodyear authority A/t from Wally World So far good to go http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/69/76/62/09/0069766209370_300X300.jpg They look like they'd be pretty decent in mud. I know it's kind of a unicorn, but what I really want is a good AT tire that does ok in mud on those rare occasions that I might have to drive through some. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:29:40 PM EDT
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Just got a set of Nitto Terra Grappler G2 and they now come with a 65,000 mile tread warranty. They are reasonably quiet and had good traction in the snow we just had here. I like my Terra Grapplers but I have to admit, if the road is wet, I have to keep that in mind. That being said, I am on my second pair and they do everything I want them to as long as it's not on wet concrete. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:33:42 PM EDT
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Just got the duratracs. So far i love them in the snow.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:44:44 PM EDT
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I have duratracs....on my Tundra. Wearing great and not as loud as I was thinking considering how aggressive they are. Very happy overall
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:45:29 PM EDT
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Somehow BFG made those tires the opposite of self cleaning. It seems they attract mud/snow, get clogged up, and now you have slicks.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:56:46 PM EDT
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We use the Duratracs at work - great traction but they don't last very long. I went with the Toyo M/T's on my personal truck but a few of my friends have recently gone to the Cooper Discoverer S/T MAXX tires and have been pretty happy so far.
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