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Posted: 10/25/2004 11:52:08 AM EST
Story below:

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:52:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
Story below:




No it isn't.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:53:12 AM EST
...waiting...
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:54:38 AM EST
You'll have to keep waiting.

It's not an issue.

CRC
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:55:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
You'll have to keep waiting.

It's not an issue.

CRC



That's pretty deep, man. But I have one question. What the hell are you talking about?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:56:44 AM EST
Where are the stories about the assault weapons ban sunset playing into this election??

CRC
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:57:35 AM EST
Good point, thankfully, there seem to be none. The American sheep is a strange creature with a short attention span.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:57:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
You'll have to keep waiting.

It's not an issue.

CRC



You so tricky....

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:00:00 PM EST
I've searched and only in Illinois is there any "noise" on an assault weapons ban.

Kerry ain't milking it.

CRC
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:02:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
I've searched and only in Illinois is there any "noise" on an assault weapons ban.

Kerry ain't milking it.

CRC



He is wearing cammo and killing poor, innocent beasts.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:13:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
I've searched and only in Illinois is there any "noise" on an assault weapons ban.

Kerry ain't milking it.

CRC



He isn't exactly ignoring it, either (at least Edwards isn't).

releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=38810

"Statement by John Edwards on Crime Numbers from Justice Dept."

10/25/2004 3:10:00 PM

To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Chad Clanton or Phil Singer, 202-464-2800, Both of Kerry-Edwards 2004; Web: http://www.johnkerry.com

WASHINGTON, Oct. 25 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following is a statement by Sen. John Edwards on crime numbers released by the Justice Department:

"Today's crime statistics released by the Justice Department remind us how much more we have to do to fight crime and keep our communities safe in America. Murders are up 6 percent under this president and gang murders are up 25 percent. Methamphetamine abuse has exploded, skyrocketing by nearly 79 percent since George Bush took office. We need to do more help families keep their children safe, but George W. Bush has cut the COPS program, reduced gang prevention funding and slashed enforcement funds to combat methamphetamine abuse. John Kerry and I will give law enforcement officers the tools they need to keep our communities strong."


Snip


"Under Bush, Police Officers Say Gang Problems are "Getting Worse." In 2000, 28 percent of law enforcement officials surveyed by the National Youth Gang Survey reported that gang problems had improved in the past year; 22 percent thought that they were getting worse. By 2002, 42 percent felt that things were getting worse, and only 16 percent said problems were getting better. (Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Program, National Youth Gang Survey Fact Sheet 2000, 4/02; National Youth Gang Survey Fact Sheet 2002, 4/04) Homicides With Firearms Account for Nearly 100 percent of Murder Increase, But Bush Let The Assault Weapons Ban Expire. There were nearly 1,000 more homicides using guns in 2003 than in 2000, while homicides using other weapons were did not have dramatic movement. The increase in firearm homicides accounts for nearly 100 percent of the total increase in homicides. Yet, faced with these facts, the Bush administration refused to take action to keep the deadliest weapons off our streets. (FBI Uniform Crime Report, 2003)"

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:14:38 PM EST
There were nearly 1,000 more homicides using guns in 2003 than in 2000

UNDER the assault weapons ban.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:15:18 PM EST
clinton was playing it up today during his first manure spreading session.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:16:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By jerry48430:
clinton was playing it up today during his first manure spreading session.



So?

Klintoon pizzed that part of his legacy sunsetted.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:18:09 PM EST
Now the story is above.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:18:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
I've searched and only in Illinois is there any "noise" on an assault weapons ban.

Kerry ain't milking it.

CRC



Negitory. There is a bill in the Michigan Legislature (House and Senate) that is the most restrictive AWB in the Union. It would require registration of any "assault weapon, annual renewal of registrations, empower the State Police to concoct storage standards, and allow for annual police inspection to ensure compliance with the storage standards.

The AWB is very much an election issue for me.

Not the mention the fact that Kerry wants to renew it as soon as he gets elected.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:18:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
You'll have to keep waiting.
It's not an issue.



You bored today?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:20:27 PM EST
I only caught it from a distance but basically Bush had cut police and let the AWB expire. kerry would put more police back on the street and bring the AWB back to protect the sheep.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:30:04 PM EST
I thought crime had dropped 3% this year.
And gang bangers killing gang bangers doesn't bother me at all.
The democrats are just watching their base murder themselves.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:33:10 PM EST
American Head Charge

Trevor Dunn's Trio Convulsant

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:36:08 PM EST
The Federal AWB is a non-issue, but several states are taking it up, Oregon being one of them. It's never safe to lay down and go back to sleep.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:38:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2004 12:42:55 PM EST by legalese77]
gee, the DOD and FBI had better compare notes

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/10/25/fbi.violent.crime/index.html

FBI: Most violent crimes decrease
But murders are up, report says
From Terry Frieden
CNN Washington Bureau
Monday, October 25, 2004 Posted: 2:15 PM EDT (1815 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Violent crime in the United States dropped 3 percent last year, continuing the downward trend in the nation's crime rate over the past decade, the FBI announced Monday.

The drop came despite a 1.7 percent increase in reported murders between 2002 and 2003, according to the FBI's annual Uniform Crime Report. All other categories of violent crime -- manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault -- declined.

Sixty-two percent of last year's murders have been solved to date, compared with 46 percent of all violent crimes, the report said.

Total property crime, which includes nonviolent criminal incidents such as auto theft, burglary and larceny decreased slightly, down 0.2 percent.

The detailed report is compiled by the FBI using data provided by 17,000 local, state and federal law enforcement agencies representing 93 percent of the nation's population. The findings each year are widely viewed as a crucial barometer in identifying trends and establishing law enforcement priorities, according to police local and federal law enforcement officials.

Total violent crime in the U.S. has dropped 25 percent since 1994, the FBI statistics show. The report does not explain the reasons for the trend, but criminologists and law enforcement officials attribute the decline to a variety of factors including stricter law enforcement, longer prison terms for repeat offenders, community policing and an aging population.

Attorney General John Ashcroft praised law enforcement efforts, and hailed the findings, saying, "Law-abiding Americans are enjoying unprecedented safety."

"We remain committed to preventing crime and holding accountable those who violate our laws," he said.

The nation's chief law enforcement official cited increased gun crime prosecutions, the removal of some drug traffickers from the streets and stiff prison sentences for hardened criminals as factors in the continued drop in crime.

Last year, rapes in 2003 declined by 1.9 percent. Robberies were down by 2.7 percent, and aggravated assaults dropped by 3.8 percent.

The newly-released data shows 16,503 murders occurred in the U.S. last year, but provides no indication why homicides did not decline along with other serious crimes.

But the figures provide a window into the killings: 90 percent of victims were adults; 77 percent were males; 48.7 percent of murder victims were white; 48.5 percent were black; 92 percent of black victims were killed by black offenders; 84.7 percent of white victims were killed by whites.

In about 55 percent of murder cases last year, authorities found a previous relationship between victim and assailant. In 45 percent of the cases, no known relationship was established between the victim and the assailant.

Firearms were used in 71 percent of the reported homicides, compared with 13 percent in which knives were used. In 7 percent, "personal" weapons -- hands, fists and feet -- were used to commit the murders.

The FBI said nearly 7,500 hate crimes were reported in 2003. Fifty-one percent were motivated by racial bias, 18 percent by religious bias, 16 percent by sexual orientation bias and 14 percent by bias involving ethnicity and national origin.

The FBI figures show that in murder cases where victim and offender knew one another, 32 percent of females were killed by their husbands or boyfriends, and 2.5 percent of males were killed by their wives or girlfriends.

This year, FBI statisticians compiling the crime report conducted a special analysis of violence inside the family unit during the period 1996 through 2001. They found 53 percent of violent incidents within families involved spousal relationships, including common-law spouse and ex-spouse relationships.

An additional 44 percent of violent incidents involved a child, and three percent involved elderly parents. The most common crime was assault, usually using hands and fists, not weapons. Among child victims, assaults were most common, and sex offenses were second in number.

Among elderly victims, after assault, robbery was the second most common crime.

A second FBI analysis released with the annual crime report mapped homicides within specific communities over a 20 year period. A key finding shows that in about 70 percent of homicides victims and offenders typically had some prior relationship, compared with 30 percent in which police could find little or no connection.

The FBI said the finding that so many murders involve individuals with an existing relationship indicates "a complex function of other factors" for law enforcement officials to consider in designing strategies to combat crime.


But Bush Let The Assault Weapons Ban Expire. There were nearly 1,000 more homicides using guns in 2003 than in 2000, while homicides using other weapons were did not have dramatic movement. The increase in firearm homicides accounts for nearly 100 percent of the total increase in homicides. Yet, faced with these facts, the Bush administration refused to take action to keep the deadliest weapons off our streets.


We all know that the AWB was in full effect during 2003...someone please explain the connection b/w non-renewal and the alleged rise in firearm related violence in 2003 and how renewing a law that was evidently ineffective in 2003 is prudent given its impingement upon the liberties of others.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 3:05:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By MMcCall:
The Federal AWB is a non-issue, but several states are taking it up, Oregon being one of them. It's never safe to lay down and go back to sleep.



And I always thought Oregon was a refuge from California. I guess it's, "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 3:15:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By rjroberts:

Originally Posted By MMcCall:
The Federal AWB is a non-issue, but several states are taking it up, Oregon being one of them. It's never safe to lay down and go back to sleep.



And I always thought Oregon was a refuge from California. I guess it's, "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."



It's just one soccer mom cum dumpster, but unfortunately she's a powerful one.
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