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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:34:57 PM EST
As a life long libertarian I endorse Kerry for president, ....... of FRANCE that is!


And what's more I will personally pay for his plane ticket there. (a one way non-refundable ticket that is)

But seriously folks. I am philosophically a libertarian. I usually vote that way.


But this election is one of the more important ones in history.


I will be voting for Bush, and I hope every other patriot does as well.


Yes, I won't be shocked if he supports gun control after elected. (like his daddy before him) But we KNOW Kerry will pass all sorts of rotten gun laws.

We need a president who understands that we are at war. And who may support RKBA.

And who knows, he may even reverse his fathers grave error and do way with the 89 import ban. (with an executive order)

Vote for BUSH.

He is the only rational choice.

And this is not a time to make our vote for a libertarian candidate on principal, and let a wolf like Kerry into the hen house.


Let looney liberals vote for Nader. We need to vote for Bush.

Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:40:46 PM EST
BRAVO!!!! I couln't agree w/ you more.

You scared the hillary out of me when I first read that you'd be voting for Kerry!

Happy Shooting!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:43:49 PM EST
Damn, long time no see. Good post.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:46:49 PM EST
I agree with most things the Libertarians stand for.

I consider myself "Mostly Libertarian"

I will definitely be voting for Bush this election.

I'll save the Libertarian victories to those battles they actually have a chance in winning. Very few at this point.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:38:37 AM EST

The thing about Bush is, that I actually like him. He is the first president to recognize that we cannot let these scum kill Americans and then run and hide in some islamic country.

If this country had this policy thirty years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now.

What's more, I think Bush is really sincere about his beliefs. And I think he is a decent man who cares about issues and just doesn't read polls and adjust his policies according to them.

We must make sure he is re-elected.

Granted, I would love it if a Libertarian candidate had a chance, but lets face it that ain't gonna happen. And we just cannot waste our votes this time.

Vote Bush.



Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"

Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:40:02 AM EST
We haven't had any new gun legislation in the last 4 yeares have we?

Why would we in the next?


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:40:15 AM EST
HOLY SHIT! It's ZEN! He's here...he's SPOKEN to us!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:43:44 AM EST
After reading you title, I though I was going to have to smack you over the head with something blunt and heavy.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:49:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By cnorton:
After reading you title, I though I was going to have to smack you over the head with something blunt and heavy.



Under that definition, we could consider Rosie ODonnell an "assualt weapon"



Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:54:31 AM EST
Your title scared the hell out of me. Bush it IS !
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:06:24 AM EST


What more can be said ?
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:08:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Groovinator:
I agree with most things the Libertarians stand for.

I consider myself "Mostly Libertarian"

I will definitely be voting for Bush this election.

I'll save the Libertarian victories to those battles they actually have a chance in winning. Very few at this point.



+1
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:17:09 AM EST
Vote for Kerry... Before you vote against him.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:23:25 AM EST
Damn Zen, there for a moment I thought I'd have to go out to MT and bitch slap your sheep friend!

Welcome back!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:47:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By cyanide:
img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/141064/a014_guns.jpg

What more can be said ?



My eyes! My eyes!

Sly
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:55:29 AM EST
Are you the same "Zen" from the old old ar15.com board years ago (like 1998)?
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 7:02:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
Are you the same "Zen" from the old old ar15.com board years ago (like 1998)?





Look into my eye.

Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 7:15:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 7:16:23 AM EST by EdAvilaSr]
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 7:16:14 AM EST
Glad to see you're back, ZEN!! Great post too!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 7:21:49 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:59:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr:

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
Are you the same "Zen" from the old old ar15.com board years ago (like 1998)?



Yes,he is.

Good to see you around again,ZEN.How's the Silo?




Thank you Ed.

The girls had a mini revolution and kicked my old butt out of the missile silo. LOL (oh my wild fantasies do roll on)



Zen



"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:09:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By ZEN:

But this election is one of the more important ones in history.


I will be voting for Bush, and I hope every other patriot does as well.




You are a wise man...
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:10:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By Rockracer:
Vote for Kerry... Before you vote against him.



In 2000, I voted for Keyes, before I voted for Bush...
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:11:12 AM EST
all real Americans like pie Bush
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 7:54:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 7:55:48 PM EST by ZEN]
Not only am I voting for him, and like the man. And I think he is sincere and honest. (unlike the comlpete phoney liar Klinton. (or that back stabbing kerry)

I think he believes what he says and is honestly trying to do his best.

Can you IMAGINE what it would been like if that duncey democrat gore had won the election and had been in office when osama be scum bag attacked???? It makes my skin crawl.

We finally have a pres who is willing to kick ass and take names of terrorist scum.

I don't know for sure what he will do about gun control once he is in. After all his father betrayed us. But I think he will not do the same. He might even reverse his dads 89 ban to rectify that mistake. (who knows)

But I am voting for the man.

I really hope all Libertarians and independents do as well.

This is an important one.


Zen

"This is my rilfe, there are many like him, but this one is mine"


Link Posted: 9/16/2004 8:04:58 PM EST

I can't believe it! ZEN is back. Man, I thought you were dead.

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 8:09:18 PM EST


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Originally Posted By cnorton:
After reading you title, I though I was going to have to smack you over the head with something blunt and heavy.
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Under that definition, we could consider Rosie ODonnell an "assualt weapon"



Link Posted: 9/16/2004 8:10:06 PM EST
Exactly. Bush will be in his second term and will have no worries about getting re-elected. Being he didn't push for a new AWB in a politically hot year, he isn't gonna do so after he wins a 2nd term.

I also bet you see less PC shit concerning Iraq. I hope Bush wins and I hope he takes the gloves off a bit when it comes to dealing with the asshat terrorists in Iraq.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 4:08:49 AM EST
As an 18 year Libertarian I endorse Badnarik for President.....but I fully expect Bush to win. I can't vote for Bush because he is a Lincolnian Centralist and I'm a Jeffersonian Federalist. Call me old school, but my America is the America of the Founding Fathers, not the Bush Administration's socialist version. To be honest though, if Bush had done something to overturn Reagan's '86 and his father's '89 gun bans, he would get my vote.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 4:40:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By SOF1:
As an 18 year Libertarian I endorse Badnarik for President.....but I fully expect Bush to win. I can't vote for Bush because he is a Lincolnian Centralist and I'm a Jeffersonian Federalist. Call me old school, but my America is the America of the Founding Fathers, not the Bush Administration's socialist version. To be honest though, if Bush had done something to overturn Reagan's '86 and his father's '89 gun bans, he would get my vote.



1)Jefferson was not a Federalist. He was the arch-enemy of the federalists.
2)President Bush is not a socialist and it's moronic to call him one.
3)I'm glad you're in a state where you can afford to waste your vote on that raving lunatic Boris Badanov.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 4:48:34 AM EST
I have my own concerns about GWB, but any gun owner is a battleground state that does not vote for Bush is betraying the RKBA.

I can understand not voting for GB I as he actually further infringed on the RKBA, but GB II has done nothing but good things for gun owners.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 5:58:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By ThunderStick:
I can't believe it! ZEN is back. Man, I thought you were dead.





I thought I was dead too, ........ turns out I was just in Montana.

Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 6:14:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2004 6:14:46 AM EST by WaWaTuSi]

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By SOF1:
As an 18 year Libertarian I endorse Badnarik for President.....but I fully expect Bush to win. I can't vote for Bush because he is a Lincolnian Centralist and I'm a Jeffersonian Federalist. Call me old school, but my America is the America of the Founding Fathers, not the Bush Administration's socialist version. To be honest though, if Bush had done something to overturn Reagan's '86 and his father's '89 gun bans, he would get my vote.







1)Jefferson was not a Federalist. He was the arch-enemy of the federalists.



+1 Jefferson was THE Anti-Fedealist. A "jefferson Federalist" would be like saying a "marx capitalist" www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/FedistP_TheTriumphoftheJeffersonianOpposition.asp] link.


2)President Bush is not a socialist and it's moronic to call him one.



Bush's gobment is the biggest yet. His perscription plan thingy is rather socialist but on the otherhand privitizing SS, medical savings accounts and other "privitizing" initiatives are not.


3)I'm glad you're in a state where you can afford to waste your vote on that raving lunatic Boris Badanov.


As a Libertarian myself I can honestly say is what we see here is what happens when individuals of my libertarian party take a little too much "liberty" in smoking that ganja.... SOF1 PUT DOWN THAT BONG!

B.T.W. This Libertarian is voting for Bush. (simply because he let the AWB sunset!)

Link Posted: 9/17/2004 6:25:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By SOF1:
As an 18 year Libertarian I endorse Badnarik for President.....but I fully expect Bush to win. I can't vote for Bush because he is a Lincolnian Centralist and I'm a Jeffersonian Federalist. Call me old school, but my America is the America of the Founding Fathers, not the Bush Administration's socialist version. To be honest though, if Bush had done something to overturn Reagan's '86 and his father's '89 gun bans, he would get my vote.





As a Libertarian I understand where you are coming from. But think about it, what if kerry is elected? Will a protest vote for Badnarik be worth it? It is analogues to dems voting for nader.

Truly, ....... a vote for Badnarik is a vote for Kerry. Please think about it before you do it.

And to the rest of you guys, lets not bash this guy for having an opinion. Or for making a personal choice of whom to vote for. (unless it were Kerry). Lets respect the opinion of a young, fellow gun owner who is also a patriot.

What's more, lets try to convince him to do the right thing with logic, not emotion. (after all, we're not democrats for Odins sake)



Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"

Link Posted: 9/17/2004 6:26:18 AM EST
I voted for Harry Browne on '00, but this Libertarian will vote for GWB in '04

There is NO other choice!


Bush is flawed, but Kerry is a FRAUD!!!


'Nuff said

roy d
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 6:27:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By WaWaTuSi:
As a Libertarian myself I can honestly say is what we see here is what happens when individuals of my libertarian party take a little too much "liberty" in smoking that ganja.... SOF1 PUT DOWN THAT BONG!



Question: Why don't the Libertarians get Ron Paul or someone like him to run? He would be much more likely to get a sizable number of votes than someone like Badnarik.
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:38:28 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2004 10:41:56 AM EST

Thanks Sweep, good to see ya.

Zen




"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
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