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3/4/2004 4:50:50 AM EDT
INFANTRY: Road Warriors and Swarms of Snipers

March 2, 2004: Because of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, marksmanship is
again a hot topic in the American armed forces. Not just in the army and
marines, but also in the air force. The air force? Yes, as for the first time
since Vietnam, air force personnel are in the line of fire. Air force drivers
are behind the wheel of buses and trucks moving people and material up the MSR
(Main Supply Route) from Kuwait to bases in Iraq. These Air force drivers got
rudimentary training on M-16s in the basic, but not a lot thereafter. To reduce
coalition casualties among drivers in Iraq, everyone driving up the MSR goes
through a "combat shooting" course for drivers. A special shooting range was set
up in Kuwait and army and air force personnel get to fire hundreds of rounds at
targets. Lots of the shooting is done from the drivers seat, as the shooting
range is set up to allow vehicles to come by and have the drivers return fire at
the types of targets they would encounter (Iraqis firing at them from ambush
positions.) Previously, few troops have ever been able to fire their weapon from
inside a hummer or truck, so it's a new experience for everyone. But for those
few troops who have later come under fire, the training has paid off.

Even standard marksmanship training for combat troops has been changed and
intensified. One thing that has been learned in Iraq is that snipers, and
accurate shooting in general, are key weapons in the kind of peacekeeping that
goes on there. Snipers are essential because they can take down the bad guys
with little risk of hitting nearby civilians. Each combat brigade has about
three dozen snipers and works them hard. Snipers operate in two man teams (one
to look around through binoculars for targets and the other guy to shoot) and
often it takes hours of scouting and preparation to find the best spot from
which to shoot (without being seen, and still having a good view of the
surrounding area). The army's five week sniper school keeps expanding to supply
the increasing number of trained snipers combat commanders are asking for. In
addition to giving each infantry platoon at least one sniper team, brigade
commanders like to have several other teams available for special missions (like
staking out a large area at night for hostile Iraqis.)

M-16s for the infantry have increasingly been equipped with telescopic and night
sights. Soldiers have gotten enough practice with these sights on realistic
firing ranges to greatly increase their ability to hit targets day and night. In
Iraq, the ability of soldiers to fire individual shots very accurately has led
to a disillusioned Iraqi resistance and very few civilians hit by accident.
While the troops who have gone through the sniper school learn a lot about
finding a good shooting position and not being seen, many non-sniper troops are
excellent shots with the new equipment and extensive live fire training. As a
result, combat commanders can take their troops into situations that would have
previously resulted in many casualties from enemy fire. Now, with many troops
delivering rapid and accurate fire, the enemy rarely gets a chance to fire
effectively. The combination of more rifle range time and better sights has
produced a much more lethal infantry force. The Marines, it should be said,
always put a lot of emphasis on marksmanship, so the army is sort of catching
up. The Iraqis resistance is increasingly reluctant to shoot it out with
American troops. The word gets around that once the Americans start shooting
back, they rarely miss.
3/4/2004 5:18:42 AM EDT
[#1]
Interesting read Sherrick, thanks.
3/4/2004 5:23:42 AM EDT
[#2]
once the Americans start shooting
back, they rarely miss.
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That should be our national and individual motto.
3/4/2004 7:16:56 AM EDT
[#3]
I guess they're shooting accurately with those POS M16s and M4s that just won't operate in the desert.[rolleyes]
3/4/2004 9:29:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Brasspile: thanks!


If we were a logical nation they would bring back the CMP and $150 rifles and have high school rifle teams.
3/4/2004 9:38:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Brasspile: thanks!


If we were a logical nation they would bring back the CMP and $150 rifles and have high school rifle teams.
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Wait 10 years.

There will be a lot more to worry about.  Just looking at the decline from the 60's to "today", it is an exponential curve upward (downward?) in morality.

Look at what happened since 94.  Imagine what 2014 will be like.
3/5/2004 12:28:36 AM EDT
[#6]
Does this mean that I’m going to have to buy a round for the next Jar…Marine I find in the Local Neighborhood Watering Hole?
3/5/2004 9:09:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Brasspile: thanks!


If we were a logical nation they would bring back the CMP and $150 rifles and have high school rifle teams.
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Forgot to add:  Copy and paste my 'edit' to your original post so people don't "click out" right away.  I will then delete my redundant one.
3/5/2004 9:31:57 AM EDT
[#8]
done
3/5/2004 12:54:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Why do they need marksmanship, everybody knows assault rifles are meant to be "spray fired" from the hip, and rarely miss their target anyway [whacko]
3/6/2004 4:39:26 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
A special shooting range was set
up in Kuwait and army and air force personnel get to fire hundreds of rounds at
targets. Lots of the shooting is done from the drivers seat, as the shooting
range is set up to allow vehicles to come by and have the drivers [b] return fire at
the types of targets they would encounter (Iraqis firing at them from ambush
positions.)[/b]
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These guys get to shoot at IRAQI's for PRACTICE? where do i sign up?