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Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:07:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:07:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:08:00 PM EDT
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No more than The Walking Dead, Star Wars, the A Team, etc. TV shows.
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TV Shows? You mean Murder Instructional Videos.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:08:37 PM EDT
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Well there you go.   Mod's delete the post, the science is settled.
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Been playing fps's for about 20 years.  No murders on my end.
Well there you go.   Mod's delete the post, the science is settled.
This thread should be locked and deleted but not for the reasons stated in the post above.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:08:49 PM EDT
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How many copies of Club Murder Simulator 9000 do you think sold last year?

Popular FPS games include Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo. All are war games.
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1. Are first person shooter video games just mass Murder Simulators?

2. Is this behind the rise in mass shootings in this generation?
1. Many of them are, and there is really no denying that.

2. No idea.  Maybe.  It could also give people who fantasize about murdering people a release, and then they never act on their fantasies.
1. No, they aren't. Since the protagonist is a "good guy" you aren't murdering. Or do you also consider war just murder?

2. No. The rise in shootings is more recent than the popularity of shooters
1. Maybe I am confusing my video game lingo.  Are the games where you can go into a club and shoot/murder everyone FPS's?
How many copies of Club Murder Simulator 9000 do you think sold last year?

Popular FPS games include Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo. All are war games.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:09:16 PM EDT
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No, my dreams are more vivid.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:09:32 PM EDT
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How many copies of Club Murder Simulator 9000 do you think sold last year?

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1. Are first person shooter video games just mass Murder Simulators?

2. Is this behind the rise in mass shootings in this generation?
1. Many of them are, and there is really no denying that.

2. No idea.  Maybe.  It could also give people who fantasize about murdering people a release, and then they never act on their fantasies.
1. No, they aren't. Since the protagonist is a "good guy" you aren't murdering. Or do you also consider war just murder?

2. No. The rise in shootings is more recent than the popularity of shooters
1. Maybe I am confusing my video game lingo.  Are the games where you can go into a club and shoot/murder everyone FPS's?
How many copies of Club Murder Simulator 9000 do you think sold last year?

Popular FPS games include Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo. All are war games.
How many copies of GTA5 sold?

GTA 5 - Strip Club Killing Spree!
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:11:14 PM EDT
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lol

Only in the same way the classic old Westerns are genocide porn.

BTW there is no rise in mass murders. Statistically they have been going down for a while. The media just pushes a BS narrative for gun control politics.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:12:14 PM EDT
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Prove there is a rise among Americans.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:14:53 PM EDT
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I only ever played Mario Brothers, not first person shooters.

So I just stomp the fuck out of every turtle and mushroom I see.  And serial squat in storm drains.  Don’t judge me, it was the video games that twisted my poor delicate mind.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:16:03 PM EDT
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I don't believe games will make you a killer but I do wonder how the 4 and 5 year olds that play gta online will turn out by the time they're 18. Young kids like that, I have heard, can't really separate reality from fiction.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:21:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:25:32 PM EDT
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Wasn’t there a kid involved in a shootout with the police a few years back that claimed he learned what he was doing from grand theft auto?
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:29:39 PM EDT
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that's the stupidest shit I've ever heard
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you must be new to life, GD and CNN.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:30:23 PM EDT
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Read "On killing" by Dave Grossman
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:32:55 PM EDT
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Games like "Pong" are to blame.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:36:33 PM EDT
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FPS games are my favorite. I've been playing for years and I've racked up zero real life kills.

YMMV
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:41:52 PM EDT
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Oh, OP is a 13-er. They never disappoint.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:47:19 PM EDT
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Oh, OP is a 13-er. They never disappoint.
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13ers rule the galaxy!
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:48:58 PM EDT
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Iirc "The Rifleman" had around 125 confirmed kills...



The humanity!
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:52:37 PM EDT
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Oh no. OP is tarded.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 11:02:15 PM EDT
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Crazy is crazy. I grew up on violent movies and video games and I never hurt anyone.

Maybe it had something to do with the morals my parents instilled in me.
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Dont know which post this is, but it nailed it.

Guns aren't enabling mass shooters, FPSs aren't training mass shooters.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 11:51:05 PM EDT
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Incidentally one of the most anti-videogame idiots is a former Democrat legislator form CA named Leland Yee....

That’s right, the same guy caught smuggling real guns to Muslim terrorists was one of those idiots wanting to ban video games for making folks killers.

Folks, the problem is parents.

I worked in a GameStop for a Christmas season, just for some spare cash. I lost count of the people buying M rated games for their kids with no thought about it.

Not all games are designed for 10 year olds.

A huge percentage of gamers these days are over 40 and a market that will be catered to...

I’ve been playing video games for decades and I’m not out murdering folks...
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 6:22:05 AM EDT
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How many copies of GTA5 sold?

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1. Are first person shooter video games just mass Murder Simulators?

2. Is this behind the rise in mass shootings in this generation?
1. Many of them are, and there is really no denying that.

2. No idea.  Maybe.  It could also give people who fantasize about murdering people a release, and then they never act on their fantasies.
1. No, they aren't. Since the protagonist is a "good guy" you aren't murdering. Or do you also consider war just murder?

2. No. The rise in shootings is more recent than the popularity of shooters
1. Maybe I am confusing my video game lingo.  Are the games where you can go into a club and shoot/murder everyone FPS's?
How many copies of Club Murder Simulator 9000 do you think sold last year?

Popular FPS games include Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo. All are war games.
How many copies of GTA5 sold?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYEqpfLEYv4
That's a game that gives you freedom to do whatever you want. So since you can be a taxi driver providing fares for people, GTA5 must be responsible for ubers success.

You can also play tennis, which I'm sure has influenced that sport as well.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 6:24:58 AM EDT
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Are first person shooter video games just mass Murder Simulators?

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Are guns murdering people or causing mass shootings?
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 6:49:06 AM EDT
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There’s this book that’s like 5000 years old that’s filled with rape, murder, incest, genocide, and rape but everybody reads it without blaming it for problems and violence that we face in the here and now. Obviously it’s the vidya games.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 7:05:09 AM EDT
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lol

Only in the same way the classic old Westerns are genocide porn.

BTW there is no rise in mass murders. Statistically they have been going down for a while. The media just pushes a BS narrative for gun control politics.
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This is actually true and even the liberal media admits it. Is that good enough to get Smith and Wesson and id Software off the hook for the overly sensationalized mass violence associated with our social decay?
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 7:30:01 AM EDT
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Honestly, I'd be lying if I said I didn't believe they have at least some desensitizing effect.  But that is NOT a 'cause', nor does it mean they should be banned.  Nor are video games the only or even worst offender.

Anecdotal evidence:  extremely graphic violence (think first 10 min of Saving Private Ryan) used to make me physically feel sick.  It no longer does.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 7:31:13 AM EDT
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Are first person shooter video games just mass Murder Simulators?

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^ Democrat

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 7:40:39 AM EDT
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To normal people no. To little twig autistics like that sandy hook kid..probably.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 7:55:23 AM EDT
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Yes they are, and they should be banned.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:04:50 AM EDT
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Paintball.

Airsoft.

Laser tag.

Fucking stupid premise OP.

Evil exists without sensory input.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:16:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:24:11 AM EDT
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that's the stupidest shit I've ever heard
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Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:24:25 AM EDT
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It has nothing to do with the prescription of drugs known to have drastic side effects on the emotions of their consumers.
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Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:26:38 AM EDT
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They are video games.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:27:30 AM EDT
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Bad parenting, and the demise of the "nuclear family" is what is causing/creating all of these kid shooters.   If they new the different between right and wrong, life and death......they would not be shooting up schools. It has nothing to do with the video games.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:34:01 AM EDT
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Don't breed OP. We don't need those genes clogging up the gene pool.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:34:06 AM EDT
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They are definitely related, and pornography in itself could be a sex crime depending on the circumstances.  I think there is a correlation, because often people can't get enough.

I think an argument could be made when you combine violent video games, violence in the home, medwications and mental illness, and walk backwards from a mass shooter and find a lot of contributing factors.  I think the video games take the morals out of killing people, so everyone comes back at the end of the game.  Problem is some people don't know the difference between a video game and real life.
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No morals were lost in playing Halo, or Counterstrike, or GTA. No more than your childhood watching the Rifleman shoot people at least. If I ever have to draw my weapon to defend myself in real life I know that actually shooting someone would likely still make me sick. I've killed millions of pixel people.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:38:23 AM EDT
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Sure, just  like playing army was too, and cowboys and indians was a genocide simulator.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:49:24 AM EDT
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Um, no.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:50:05 AM EDT
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That is as dumb as saying marriage is the number one cause of divorce.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:52:11 AM EDT
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The answer is not as easy as a binary yes OR no.

In 99%+ of people, FPS are just fine. Forms of entertainment.

In the sub-1%, they do desensitize and, in a sliding scale of the remainders, someone may end up completely desensitized to violence, especially when combined with other bad factors.

But banning an object that is misused by the distinct minority is BS.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:54:00 AM EDT
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Oh wait, you're serious.

Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:55:32 AM EDT
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No, they are games.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 8:56:32 AM EDT
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That's why Cain killed Able, because video games. No such thing as hate or jealousy or......
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 9:02:25 AM EDT
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Boomer posting incarnate.

Before it was muh violent vidya, it was music.

Heres the redpill, some humans are just plain broken, and some have naturally poor impulse control, some are broken by others... but at the end of the Day, GTA, Classic Doom, Marilyn Manson, or Hollywood didn't pull the trigger.

Just like the gun didn't do it either.
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If you graduated HS before the mid 1990s, this concept of mass shooters was inconceivable.  I'd argue it's everything you just said it's not, combined with shitty parenting, pill popping pharma, and absurd schooling.  Frustrated, angry, confused, neglected and poorly raised kids can respond very differently to games, music, icons/belief systems....etc than a kid you raised with tough love/instruction and goals.  Just because you may be a better person, doesn't mean someone else doesn't get influenced negatively.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 9:03:03 AM EDT
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How many copies of GTA5 sold?

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How many AR15s are in the peoples hands? How many rounds of .223/5.56 are in the peoples hands? Your argument is invalid.

Video games do not cause people to kill nor are they "simulators" for such things anymore than gun ownership and or marksmanship training are for mass murder.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 9:04:46 AM EDT
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Almost 100 votes for yes.

Holy fuck.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 9:12:44 AM EDT
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Stop looking for something to blame and start blaming the person who murders.

"This made them do it" is a cop out and a blame shift.

It doesn't matter why, it matters what they did.

We need to focus on the action, not the cause.
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