CavVet...my own personal problem with McViegh is that he is either a puppet of the govm`nt, or a total wacko who got out of hand....i believe the media is so damn "proficient" at painting a picture for the general public that it can cloud the reality of what being a true american citizen is all about. i also believe that it is a intentional effort on a daily basis to do so.... that does not, however, take anything away from honest american citizens who do appreciate the freedoms that we DO have, and those who gave sacrifice to assure that right. corny as it MAY sound,(to SOME )and you hear that all the time from those who take it for granted,it is the absolute fact!...anyone who has been in military situation played team sports on a serious level, knows the meaning of teamwork, and forgets the petty concerns race,religion,personal habits, backround etc.....my own feelings at this point is that the "real" control factor is basically "untouchable" at least where persons like myself are concerned, and yes i wish there was something meaningful that i could do about it, but what? (Mcviegh DID NOT act alone,POSSIBLY his constituants do not know what to do either) there is SO MUCH we do not know...are we better off living our insignificant lives and letting it go?..[heavy]