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1/3/2013 1:18:44 PM EDT
Does anyone know of any actual cases where someone shot themselves while drawing from an appendix IWB holster?

I want to get one for a Glock 23 but every time Im about to jump on one I get scared off by the possibility of shooting myself in the femoral.
1/3/2013 2:00:52 PM EDT
[#1]
I think it was speculated Roland Haas, who died of a gsw to his femoral, might have been carrying appendix.
1/3/2013 2:04:12 PM EDT
[#2]
Get a quality holster, keep your finger off the trigger, and you will never have to worry.

I tried appendix carry, but found it extremely uncomfortable when sitting down.  It's just not for me.
1/3/2013 2:09:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Get a quality holster, keep your finger off the trigger, and you will never have to worry.

I tried appendix carry, but found it extremely uncomfortable when sitting down.  It's just not for me.


same here.

couldn't get past it poking me in the stomach while seated. It also felt weird having the barrel pointed at my dick

I carry between 3&4 oclock.
1/3/2013 2:13:51 PM EDT
[#4]
http://www.glocktech.com/index.php

Works for me...
1/3/2013 2:16:30 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm a pretty thin framed guy(5'8", 145lbs, 30" waist) and appendix carry 90% of the time. If I appendix carry I can conceal quite a few full size pistols. If I carry at 4 o'clock I can only conceal smaller framed pistols and even then I'd have to wear a sweatshirt or a flannel almost all the time to not print.

I have't shot myself in the junk yet. If you're that concerned you could begin carrying without one in the chamber to get comfortable.
1/3/2013 2:17:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.
1/3/2013 2:21:46 PM EDT
[#7]
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Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster
1/3/2013 2:24:20 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


I aiwb carry everyday and this is true. Reholsters for me are like going through a checklist. No need to do it fast. I slow down, Think about my balls and femoral, Look down into the holster, make sure any clothing or other obstructions are clear of holster, Place thumb on rear of slide clearing the grip safety(carry an XD) then slowly place pistol into holster. I also would not carry anything besides Kydex for AIWB, but thats just me.
1/3/2013 2:25:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Theres no doubt I can conceal better appendix carrying, i print pretty bad at 3-4 oclock.

Its just the fact that if in a stressful situation, i fuck up and pull the trigger on the draw or re-holster, i die.
1/3/2013 2:26:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster


Please provide a good example of where a private citizen CCW'ing would need to quickly reholster?
1/3/2013 2:29:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster


explain the importance of a quick reholster then, Wyatt.
1/3/2013 2:38:31 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster


Please provide a good example of where a private citizen CCW'ing would need to quickly reholster?


-Picking up a child, running from scene to a place of safety after shooting
-Attending to wounded family/friends
-Attending to your own wounds
-General unassing of areas where a pistol has been drawn, but would need to be reholstered before running into a sea of incoming LE's (active killer type scenario)

Just a few off the top of my head...

But do what you want. I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I have had hundreds of hours of carbine/shotgun/handgun training and this is the view I've adopted.

When a few of us brought up the importance of being able to reholster quickly in a recent thread we were shit all over and called know-nothings.
1/3/2013 2:41:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
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Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster


explain the importance of a quick reholster then, Wyatt.


I'm not claiming to be an expert.

Post above has some things to consider.
1/3/2013 2:46:07 PM EDT
[#14]
I use a VG2 and take it off every time to reholster. If I'm in a rush I Mexican carry until I can reholster.
1/3/2013 2:50:42 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster


Please provide a good example of where a private citizen CCW'ing would need to quickly reholster?


-Picking up a child, running from scene to a place of safety after shooting
-Attending to wounded family/friends
-Attending to your own wounds
-General unassing of areas where a pistol has been drawn, but would need to be reholstered before running into a sea of incoming LE's (active killer type scenario)

Just a few off the top of my head...

But do what you want. I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I have had hundreds of hours of carbine/shotgun/handgun training and this is the view I've adopted.

When a few of us brought up the importance of being able to reholster quickly in a recent thread we were shit all over and called know-nothings.


1. Would do so with my off arm, pistol still in hand. Pistol stays in hand until threat is eliminated.
2. I dont carry a trauma kit, not much could be done in the extra time it would take to slowly reholster.
3. see 2
4. pistol goes to floor if said scenario happened and i ran into LE's pistol in hand, same with myself. Both go to floor.

I understand your point, but it is not as large of a differance in time as you are making it out to be. It is a differance of seconds. And unless you are open carrying, its not like it is extremely fast to reholster anyways. Most people will have to clear cover garmets anyways regardless. You are making something into a problem that isaint one.
1/3/2013 2:55:47 PM EDT
[#16]
I think Mike Seeklander on those gun shows seems to like appendix carry and he knows his shit.
1/3/2013 4:04:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I use a VG2 and take it off every time to reholster. If I'm in a rush I Mexican carry until I can reholster.


I just got my vg2 on Friday and I'm really liking it so far.  Definitely not trying to reholster that puppy while it's iwb though
1/3/2013 4:10:01 PM EDT
[#18]
I have about 2 years in daily AIWB carry. I have carried a Glock 19, Glock 17, Sig 226, Sig 220, HK P30, HK P30L, HK P2000, or (gasp) Walther PPQ every day for roughly 15 hours a day.

That is the only way I can carry a full size gun comfortably and well concealed. I am not thin (5' 11" 200 lbs). And I cannot stand subcompact guns, don't really care for compacts.

I have tried a several holsters and the only one that has worked for me is the Garrett Industries Silent Thunder Slim.
1/3/2013 6:30:59 PM EDT
[#19]
I have personal knowledge of 2 young men who shot themselves with a 22 pistol appendix carrying.  Neither was using a holster as far as I know.
Each shot themselves in the pecker
1/3/2013 6:34:42 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
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Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster


Please provide a good example of where a private citizen CCW'ing would need to quickly reholster?


I was just going to say that. A cop might have a need to reholster quickly to cuff a thug, but as a civilian you need to reholster when the threat is no longer a threat or when the cops have arrived. Either way speed is not needed.
1/3/2013 6:37:01 PM EDT
[#21]
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I think Mike Seeklander on those gun shows seems to like appendix carry and he knows his shit.


does he?
1/4/2013 3:20:38 AM EDT
[#22]
Let's be sure to differentiate between appendix carry in a holster or some other form of trigger protection, and Mexican carry, which is shoving a pistol down the front of your pants.
1/4/2013 3:32:33 AM EDT
[#23]
cheddar bob finds your lack of faith in ball carry, disappointing.
1/4/2013 3:37:38 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Get a quality holster, keep your finger off the trigger, and you will never have to worry.

I tried appendix carry, but found it extremely uncomfortable when sitting down.  It's just not for me.


You were doing it wrong then.. I carry full size FNP 45 appendix carry and sit with no problems

I carry all my pistols in AIWB and nothing beats it for speed and complete concealment

1/4/2013 3:42:42 AM EDT
[#25]
Here is a very good overview of most things related to apendix carry done by John_Wayne777. Link to thread
I read it a while ago. The main thing I took away from it is that you probably want something with a manual safety.
1/4/2013 3:44:05 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I have personal knowledge of 2 young men who shot themselves with a 22 pistol appendix carrying.  Neither was using a holster as far as I know.
Each shot themselves in the pecker


Your avatar, when coupled with this post, is perfect.
1/4/2013 4:44:27 AM EDT
[#27]
I appendix carry a S&W M&P9c *w/thumb safety*. I wouldn't carry it there otherwise.
Tomac
1/4/2013 5:51:23 PM EDT
[#28]
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I think Mike Seeklander on those gun shows seems to like appendix carry and he knows his shit.


does he?


Almost every time he pulls up his shirt and draws the gun is by his appendix in a IWB holster.
1/4/2013 5:54:10 PM EDT
[#29]
not worth the risk, in fact nothing is worth shooting yourself in the balls
1/4/2013 5:59:57 PM EDT
[#30]
I appendix carried a walther p22 in an IWB soft holster with no strap for 2 years. Both balls still in place. I now carry an XDS at 2:30 with a crossbreed or harwell, depends on the cut of my jeans. It scared me the first couple times with the walther but I learned to trust the weapon safety. That said, I never had to draw it, and I'm glad I didn't because the safety wasn't draw because your life depends on it friendly.
1/4/2013 7:44:25 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
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Buy a quality holster that is purpose built.    The big danger isn't a negligent discharge on the draw stroke, but rather while reholstering.  That needs to be a deliberative, almost checklist, process.


In before all of the "experts" tell you there is never any reason for you to need to quickly reholster


Please provide a good example of where a private citizen CCW'ing would need to quickly reholster?


-Picking up a child, running from scene to a place of safety after shooting
-Attending to wounded family/friends
-Attending to your own wounds
-General unassing of areas where a pistol has been drawn, but would need to be reholstered before running into a sea of incoming LE's (active killer type scenario)

Just a few off the top of my head...
.


Removal of doughnut that you shoved into your mouth right before you drew.