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Posted: 5/14/2021 12:32:14 PM EDT
What are the origins of humanity?  Where did we come from?

Evolution:  Did humans evolve from a common ancestor with primates?  Where is the proof?

God:  Did God create humans in his image?  Or is religion unbelievable as to human origins.

Aliens:  Did humans come from the stars?  As aliens to this world or planted by aliens?

What do you think?
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:36:32 PM EDT
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If humans couldn't have evolved after millions of years, then I must ask who created aliens and god then? I mean if god or aliens planted humans on earth, then who planted those beings?
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:37:24 PM EDT
[#2]
All three, God created the aliens that seeded the planet with life that evolved into humans!, Duh!
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:40:04 PM EDT
[#3]
At the dawn of creation a decision was made.

A singular entity made a choice. It could be alone, or it could chose to split into an uncounted multitude.

It chose to split and the consequences of this are still playing out to this day.

Personally I think most people have a very poor understanding of evolution as a concept, let alone as a science. I see no convincing evidence for aliens now or in the past tinkering with humanities development or seeding our species.

As for God in the judeo-Christian sense... Who or what created God then? And if we are created in his image? Why is God a humanoid?
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:40:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Still waiting on proof of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent or omnibenevolent being floating around magically creating things.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:40:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Technically, God is an alien, right? He wasn't born here....

Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:41:54 PM EDT
[#6]
None of the choices are mutually exclusive.  They could all be true.  Or all not true.

I voted Evolution because it makes the most sense.  But it's possible that God, or an alien who may be what we think of as God, started evolution.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:42:18 PM EDT
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At the dawn of creation a decision was made.

A singular entity made a choice. It could be alone, or it could chose to split into an uncounted multitude.

It chose to split and the consequences of this are still playing out to this day.

Personally I think most people have a very poor understanding of evolution as a concept, let alone as a science. I see no convincing evidence for aliens now or in the past tinkering with humanities development or seeding our species.

As for God in the judeo-Christian sense... Who or what created God then? And if we are created in his image? Why is God a humanoid?
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Wow

Darwin's Dilemma- First Cause Causation.

Nothing became something.  

Evolution cannot answer origination, because at some point something needed to be created.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:42:21 PM EDT
[#8]
Two of those aren't really mutually exclusive.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:42:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Gil Gerard ejaculating in the primordial ooze.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:43:02 PM EDT
[#10]
lol

Evolution is still a theory after 160 years
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:43:09 PM EDT
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It's pretty tough to study biology/genetics at all and believe we're aliens. We share almost all of our DNA with the rest of the life on this planet.

Humans have a fused chromosome that still contains the same code the great apes have in their extra one, but it's inactive.

IMO, humans aren't a good place to look for a grand design, stuff like the way microbes/fungus transfer information between plants and turn genes on and off are more compelling.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:43:10 PM EDT
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If humans couldn't have evolved after millions of years, then I must ask who created aliens and god then? I mean if god or aliens planted humans on earth, then who planted those beings?
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Careful, there won't be an answer, just major lecturing that makes no sense and in the end will be the words "you have to have faith and believe it because".
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:43:43 PM EDT
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Extraordinary claims like aliens or deities require extraordinary evidence, none exists.

Natural progression of evolution by the logical model that has been used by science may not be exactly correct, but it has vast amounts of evidence pointing toward it being correct.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:43:54 PM EDT
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None of the choices are mutually exclusive.  They could all be true.  Or all not true.

I voted Evolution because it makes the most sense.  But it's possible that God, or an alien who may be what we think of as God, started evolution.
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Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:43:59 PM EDT
[#15]
evolution.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:44:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:44:53 PM EDT
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lol

Evolution is still a theory after 160 years
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Gravitation is also a theory.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:45:57 PM EDT
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That scene toward the end of The Book of Eli where the blind chick was talking shit was pretty cool.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:46:11 PM EDT
[#19]
Using sophisticated telescopes we can see the vastness of the universe playing out according to remarkably consistent mathematical principles.

Yet...

We find few worlds out there in the universe that seem to have the proper chemical balances, distance from their sun and so on that would be conducive to the emergence of life as we know it. When we compare our solar system to others, our configuration of planets seems highly unusual.

Personally I think we are a highly anomalous existence compared to everything else we can see in the universe. Humanity has only existed in its current form, according to archeological evidence for around 50,000 years and only 500 years ago did any of those humans invent a telescope.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:46:37 PM EDT
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Did you really expect to get answer on this topic in GD? Scientists, philosophers, and others geniuses  haven’t figured it out yet ...
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:47:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Genetic inheritance did not spontaneously emerge.

I tend in the religious direction myself but feel the above stands with or without God.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:48:56 PM EDT
[#22]
DNA proves evolution 100%.

It is evolution.

Plus when life started on this planet, there was virtually no oxygen and the atmosphere was deadly to any life on the planet today.

How Bad Was The Great Oxidation Event?
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:49:08 PM EDT
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Wow

Darwin's Dilemma- First Cause Causation.

Nothing became something.  

Evolution cannot answer origination, because at some point something needed to be created.
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How do we explain the Big Bang? Nothing became everything. Current science cannot account for conditions before the Big Bang. There are theories and lots of arguments. But nothing conclusive.

Someday there will be an answer to this though. Even if we have to take the most retarded possible brute force approach and build a particle accelerator the size of a solar system to get those answers.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:50:13 PM EDT
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What are the origins of humanity?  Where did we come from?

Evolution:  Did humans evolve from a common ancestor with primates?  Where is the proof?
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Where would those primates have come from?

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Aliens:  Did humans come from the stars?  As aliens to this world or planted by aliens?

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Where did those aliens come from/ how did THEY come into existence?


What about the big bang religion? What exploded and where did it come from?  



Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:53:36 PM EDT
[#25]
nephilim giants offer some interesting rabbit holes.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:55:08 PM EDT
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How do we explain the Big Bang? Nothing became everything. Current science cannot account for conditions before the Big Bang. There are theories and lots of arguments. But nothing conclusive.

Someday there will be an answer to this though. Even if we have to take the most retarded possible brute force approach and build a particle accelerator the size of a solar system to get those answers.
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The big bang is not 100% something to rely on, but it could have been the beginning of our individual universe. I can believe it more than a spirit floating around like Bob Ross thinking "hummm let's make some shit today and put some happy little planets here and there and so on". I honestly believe there is much, much more out there, something along the lines of a multiverse and I have firmly believe that for quite some time now as many notable scientists are as well. Or... I may be nutty. But I like the idea of it.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:56:52 PM EDT
[#27]
Star stuff
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:56:55 PM EDT
[#28]
It is a mystery.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:56:58 PM EDT
[#29]
I don't think evolution and God are mutually exclusive.  

Or to put it another way, I absolutely believe evolution occurs, and that humans are a product of evolution.  And I absolutely believe God exists in some form, because all that exists in the universe had to be designed by someone/something.  The way matter and energy interact was mapped out.  All this complexity can't just be an accident.  But I think it's pretty arrogant for humans to insist that their particular understanding of God is the correct one, when we have so many.  

I don't think man is necessarily made in God's image.  I think man has made God in man's image in order to try to relate.  But I also think sentient life on Earth (or somewhere else in the universe) was the inevitable result of the building blocks, the "laws of physics" mapped out by God in the first place.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:57:24 PM EDT
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Aliens is just an extension of evolution.

there are only two options. Life spontaneously comes from non life, or a Creator.

my study has been in physics and mathematics. I am convinced there must be a Creator. Mathematics, more than any other subject, speaks to the necessity of a divine mind. Galileo was right. The physical world is written in the language of mathematics. If we are the ones listening to what is being said, who is speaking? It must be an intelligent mind.

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http://math.utep.edu/Faculty/sewell/articles/mathint.html

Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution




Link Posted: 5/14/2021 12:58:51 PM EDT
[#31]
The daily GD religious troll thread


Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:01:02 PM EDT
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All three, God created the aliens that seeded the planet with life that evolved into humans!, Duh!
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This is kinda where I'm at, 'cause I just don't give a shit anymore.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:02:29 PM EDT
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lol

Evolution is still a theory after 160 years
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Holy shit, this is dumb.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:02:53 PM EDT
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If humans couldn't have evolved after millions of years, then I must ask who created aliens and god then? I mean if god or aliens planted humans on earth, then who planted those beings?
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Where did the chemicals come from to form planets, stars, universes, and species to evolve?


Either you have faith that science is wrong, or you can believe in science and our Creator
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:03:38 PM EDT
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Involution precedes evolution.

Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:03:55 PM EDT
[#36]
If man was made in a Gods image why aren't we all invisible?
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:04:43 PM EDT
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Still waiting on proof of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent or omnibenevolent being floating around magically creating things.
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Still waiting on proof of planets, stars, animals and species changing into other species floating around magically and spontaneously happening with no matter to evolve from.

Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:05:24 PM EDT
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Wow

Darwin's Dilemma- First Cause Causation.

Nothing became something.  

Evolution cannot answer origination, because at some point something needed to be created.
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How dare you use science.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:06:00 PM EDT
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Where did the chemicals come from to form planets, stars, universes, and species to evolve?


Either you have faith that science is wrong, or you can believe in science and our Creator
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The Fermi Paradox: The Phosphorus Problem
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:07:26 PM EDT
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If man was made in a Gods image why aren't we all invisible?
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This will be ignored by the "faithful" but I want to give you a virtual high-five.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:07:49 PM EDT
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Wow

Darwin's Dilemma- First Cause Causation.

Nothing became something.  

Evolution cannot answer origination, because at some point something needed to be created.
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Long time ago I read that under certain conditions, NOTHING can split into it's components:  Matter and Anti-matter.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:08:47 PM EDT
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oh boy


Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:09:49 PM EDT
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Extraordinary claims like aliens or deities require extraordinary evidence, none exists.

Natural progression of evolution by the logical model that has been used by science may not be exactly correct, but it has vast amounts of evidence pointing toward it being correct.
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Extraordinary claims like something evolved from nothing or species changing into other species require extraordinary evidence, none exists.

Natural progression of evolution by the illogical model that has been used with a lack of science may not be exactly correct, but it has virtually no amount of evidence pointing toward it being correct.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:10:01 PM EDT
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Still waiting on proof of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent or omnibenevolent being floating around magically creating things.
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Evolution is a logical fallacy
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:10:35 PM EDT
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Evolution needs a starting point and the "big bang" is just a big bust.  I'm a strong believer in adaptation, but evolution is still a theory that can't be proven unless you have "faith" in science...which is more politics than data these days.  Of course, we do have evidence of "de-evolution" when it comes to Democrats, Socialists, Communists, and SJWs...there is that.

Aliens, while mostly good for movies and memes, could very well be a creation of God.

There's no "theory" of creation and there is enough historical evidence corroboration with the Bible, that it has the most validity for me.  It does require faith, so many who don't believe in any God have to defer to evolution or aliens.  For the record, I believe in aliens more than I do evolution...

ROCK6
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:10:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:11:43 PM EDT
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Where would those primates have come from?



Where did those aliens come from/ how did THEY come into existence?


What about the big bang religion? What exploded and where did it come from?  



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Skepticism, the foundation of science
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:11:45 PM EDT
[#48]
Why couldnt God actually be a Alien who used Evolution to eventually create us

Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:11:46 PM EDT
[#49]
Poll fail - no multiple choice.

All three:  God started it, aliens planted it, natural selection evolved it.

Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:12:49 PM EDT
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You do not have a soul.
You are a soul.
You have a body.
C.S. Lewis

You are created in God's image.

You hairless ape.
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