Posted: 8/8/2025 4:52:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2025/08/08/air-force-makes-arrest-in-airmans-shooting-death-involving-m18-pistol/?_0ERinGsNdkYFw9gHqso5R-tKl8o6vlcK3rC-6d5wCQi_gJAKT-Gc_aem_aVlDj043H5LAUcZbtVjmgQ What the fuck is it with people that just dump a link and nothing else. |
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Air-Force-makes-arrest-related-M18/5-2808305/#:~:text=https%3A//www.airforcetimes.com/news/your%2Dair%2Dforce/2025/08/08/air%2Dforce%2Dmakes%2Darrest%2Din%2Dairmans%2Dshooting%2Ddeath%2Dinvolving%2Dm18%2Dpistol/%3F_0ERinGsNdkYFw9gHqso5R%2DtKl8o6vlcK3rC%2D6d5wCQi_gJAKT%2DGc_aem_aVlDj043H5LAUcZbtVjmgQ The Air Force has arrested an airman in connection with the July 20 death of another airman, which involved a Sig Sauer M18 and led the service to suspend the use of the pistol following the incident. In a Friday statement, a Department of the Air Force spokesperson said that the unidentified arrested person is accused of making a false official statement, obstruction of justice and involuntary manslaughter. |
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Interesting post from reddit from two weeks ago....might be the truth https://old.reddit.com/r/AirForce/comments/1m7nio3/warren_afb_m18_incident_sig_is_innocent/ |
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Quoted: https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2025/08/08/air-force-makes-arrest-in-airmans-shooting-death-involving-m18-pistol/?_0ERinGsNdkYFw9gHqso5R-tKl8o6vlcK3rC-6d5wCQi_gJAKT-Gc_aem_aVlDj043H5LAUcZbtVjmgQ https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2025/08/08/air-force-makes-arrest-in-airmans-shooting-death-involving-m18-pistol/?_0ERinGsNdkYFw9gHqso5R-tKl8o6vlcK3rC-6d5wCQi_gJAKT-Gc_aem_aVlDj043H5LAUcZbtVjmgQ |
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Quoted: It’s not even a link That too. It’s like everyone is in such a hurry to try to be first. OP’s post should have been something like this. Hey Arf. Check this out. Air Force times link Someone was arrested in the M18 airman’s death. Isn’t a whole lot of details on it yet, but they found enough cause to arrest someone. Anyone see any other news or info on this? I wonder if the guy is just being run through the wringer because they want to place blame or maybe if wasn’t a gun failure and actually intentional. |
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Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! |
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Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! "My bad" works too, but I'd hate for you to waste one of your 45 posts per year on another reply. |
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Quoted: This one smelled fishy from the beginning. But it involved SIG and everyone hates SIG and with it being the internet and all, well there you go. I would agree but SIG lost his credibility long time ago… First they said the gun couldn’t fire if dropped… well we all know how it ended. Then they said the gun will only fire with a trigger pull… then a guy showed how pushing the slide will release the FP… |
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Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! You've been here for like 16 years and haven't learned how to use the site UI. Okay, man. |
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Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!! Why U mad bro? |
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Quoted: I would agree but SIG lost his credibility long time ago… First they said the gun couldn’t fire if dropped… well we all know how it ended. Then they said the gun will only fire with a trigger pull… then a guy showed how pushing the slide [while pulling the trigger] will release the FP… |
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Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! First time in GD? |
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Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! Sure. I’m sure we can find a mod to help make this happen. Dump and run threads need to die. |
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Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! I get it. It seems like if the first reply is negative than everyone else feels like they need to pile on too. Thanks for posting the article OP |
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Quoted: Sig has already taken the hit. Truth doesn't matter much now. Sig took the hit because the guy who's robbed the liquor store 5 times already and habitually lies about it, tends not to get a lot of benefit of the doubt on the 6th Robbery, the same night he was strutting around still being a dick. Fuck Sig, even if the gun didn't fail and cause this (to be determined); by now - it doesn't actually matter. This is discharge #1001, by now. Though, i will say this - if I ever decide to murder someone, I'm totally going to use a P320 to do it. "Uh... it just.. went off man!!" |
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Quoted: Well, hope they actually have something substantial as opposed to the historical nature of military coverups where they blame the E-nothings for being suicidal or gay or upset at getting cut from the Seals or whatnot. The gays did blow up the turret on USS Iowa though. |
| It’s much easier to crucify an unsuspecting Airman than it is to procure millions of dollars in new pistols. It’s even easier when top brass is dangled some incentives to find a reason why it wasn’t the pistol’s fault. Not saying that’s what’s occurring, but I am saying it’s a plausible scenario. |
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Posted in the big thread https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-m18-arrest/ |
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Quoted: Sig took the hit because the guy who's robbed the liquor store 5 times already and habitually lies about it, tends not to get a lot of benefit of the doubt on the 6th Robbery, the same night he was strutting around still being a dick. Fuck Sig, even if the gun didn't fail and cause this (to be determined); by now - it doesn't actually matter. This is discharge #1001, by now. Though, i will say this - if I ever decide to murder someone, I'm totally going to use a P320 to do it. "Uh... it just.. went off man!!" Quoted: Quoted: Sig has already taken the hit. Truth doesn't matter much now. Sig took the hit because the guy who's robbed the liquor store 5 times already and habitually lies about it, tends not to get a lot of benefit of the doubt on the 6th Robbery, the same night he was strutting around still being a dick. Fuck Sig, even if the gun didn't fail and cause this (to be determined); by now - it doesn't actually matter. This is discharge #1001, by now. Though, i will say this - if I ever decide to murder someone, I'm totally going to use a P320 to do it. "Uh... it just.. went off man!!" The Alec Baldwin defense does hold water in that case. |
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Quoted: "In a Friday statement, a Department of the Air Force spokesperson said that the unidentified arrested person is accused of making a false official statement, obstruction of justice and involuntary manslaughter." Hmmm so it wasn't the P320's fault after all https://nsmb.com/media/images/crowtable.original.jpg Sig can finally relax. One of the 100+ reported incidents of their guns going off on their own may not have been what it was suspected to be! We’re back boys!!!! |
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Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! Maybe you should ease up on the caffeine intake, whaddya say? |
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Quoted: Sig can finally relax. One of the 100+ reported incidents of their guns going off on their own may not have been what it was suspected to be! We’re back boys!!!! Quoted: Quoted: "In a Friday statement, a Department of the Air Force spokesperson said that the unidentified arrested person is accused of making a false official statement, obstruction of justice and involuntary manslaughter." Hmmm so it wasn't the P320's fault after all https://nsmb.com/media/images/crowtable.original.jpg Sig can finally relax. One of the 100+ reported incidents of their guns going off on their own may not have been what it was suspected to be! We’re back boys!!!! Yep this Sigident is closed. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would agree but SIG lost his credibility long time ago… First they said the gun couldn’t fire if dropped… well we all know how it ended. Then they said the gun will only fire with a trigger pull… then a guy showed how pushing the slide [while pulling the trigger] will release the FP… 1-2mm of “pull” can be caused by dirt & sand that won’t allow the trigger to fully reset. That’s still unacceptable in my book. No other handgun will do the same… A gun must fire only with a complete trigger pull |
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Quoted: "My bad" works too, but I'd hate for you to waste one of your 45 posts per year on another reply. Quoted: Quoted: Go pound sand then to all the naysayers!!! I shared the link . Forgive me for trying to put information out there and let people make a informed decision. But instead you some folks that wanna complain etc.. At this point kick me off here , I don't care anymore! Done with the "experts " . I never said I was trying to push a narrative one way or another just sharing information. But whatever at this point!!! "My bad" works too, but I'd hate for you to waste one of your 45 posts per year on another reply. Likely a highjacked account. |
