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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:49:06 PM EDT
 Rocket Launchers and The Dangers of Back-Blast! - Ballistic High-Speed They were testing backblast effects with a carl gustav and RPG-7 against ballistic dummies. Accident around 8:38 Follow-up vid  My RPG-7 Exploded On Me (in Slow Motion) - Ballistic High-Speed |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:50:37 PM EDT
[#1]
8:45 is the round that failed
Saw the dude in town earlier, 
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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:50:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Just saw that I’m glad he survived and isn’t in critical condition. Hopefully they will be back.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:53:37 PM EDT
[#3]
guess they fucked around and found out.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:58:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Guess that explains why the scout sniper I once knew said he'd "never touch those pieces of shit"
How often do these things catastrophically fail? Cracked rocket motor? |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:59:32 PM EDT
[#5]
That looked rough, glad he’s alive.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:59:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Ouch.
Hope he recovers fully. They put out some great content. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 9:59:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess that explains why the scout sniper I once knew said he'd "never touch those pieces of shit" How often do these things catastrophically fail? Cracked rocket motor? those didn't look like "real" rockets. Someones homebrewed on a printer stuff. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:02:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: those didn't look like "real" rockets. Someones homebrewed on a printer stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Guess that explains why the scout sniper I once knew said he'd "never touch those pieces of shit" How often do these things catastrophically fail? Cracked rocket motor? those didn't look like "real" rockets. Someones homebrewed on a printer stuff. If so, that seems like a reaaaaally bad idea. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:04:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Fuck
 Fairly certainly I know the guy who's RPG that was. Talked to him a bunch when getting my 07/02. Looks like his social media and website are gone.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:05:51 PM EDT
[#10]
They offered one up @$200 a shot in Cambodia when I was at the range. What could go wrong? I declined. Same with tossing their old ass frags.
Edit: rpg-7 not CG. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:06:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Quite a bit of tardation in that vid, there was no reason for the guy not shooting to be crouched down in front of and below the guy shooting.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:09:30 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quite a bit of tardation in that vid, there was no reason for the guy not shooting to be crouched down in front of and below the guy shooting. The end clip discusses safety but one or two of them pull shots without even safety glasses on. The guy injured has them on for his shot so he probably got real lucky on his eyes. I would like to see the RPG tube as I figure its an overpressure event. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:10:25 PM EDT
[#13]
My guess is that they had that fake head WAY too close to the back of the tube. It obstructed enough of the pressure evacuation to cause a catastrophic failure of the tube.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:16:50 PM EDT
[#14]
I'd like to point out as a PSA here:
"Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:19:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is that they had that fake head WAY too close to the back of the tube. It obstructed enough of the pressure evacuation to cause a catastrophic failure of the tube. I was wondering if that had anything to do with, it was way closer than I expected it would be. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:24:54 PM EDT
[#16]
I live in shorts and flip flops but firing rockets or recoilless with lots of ejected powder burning is pretty stupid.
No pop out stabilizing fins on the rockets is not good and the effort to load looked a little "tight". Rocket motors are complex in composition , end or core burning along with casing , throat , nozzle , etc. No reason to shoulder fire experimental designs IMHO. Hope the guy fully recovers. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:27:32 PM EDT
[#17]
I do not think that was a factory round.
With that said I only shoot rounds I take out of factory wrap and I X ray the tubes first and look for cracks. 
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:28:34 PM EDT
[#18]
The CarlG is an incredibly reliable platform as is the RPG7. Something fishy here
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:29:05 PM EDT
[#19]
There are times when I want to get into destructive devices, then I see a image of a mangled hand from a n exploded grenade launcher or a video like this and realize maybe it’s best to just stick with suppressors, SBRs and machine guns.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:29:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to point out as a PSA here: "Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. I'd argue the opposite - you can't assess and apply emergency first aid AND call 911 at the same time.. (unless you ask Siri to). At every live-fire training class I've taken at least two students are designated as 911 callers - reason being the instructors usually have more medical training. (though my last pistol class there was a medical doctor as a student) I've only seen a few of the BHS videos, they do make good stuff - here's hoping Adam makes a full recovery. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:30:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Never heard of that channel before, but that was gnarly. Glad the guy is going to recover.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:31:52 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to point out as a PSA here: "Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:31:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd argue the opposite - you can't assess and apply emergency first aid AND call 911 at the same time.. (unless you ask Siri to). At every live-fire training class I've taken at least two students are designated as 911 callers - reason being the instructors usually have more medical training. (though my last pistol class there was a medical doctor as a student) I've only seen a few of the BHS videos, they do make good stuff - here's hoping Adam makes a full recovery. This. In every event i've been a part of where somebody needed medical assistance I am yelling at somebody to call it in....because i'm fucking busy at the moment. Applying aid is only a stopgap to get to follow on care, which does not matter if nobody calls it in. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:32:14 PM EDT
[#24]
I think 2 Marine warrant officers got killed in iraq shooting one for the fuck of it.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:32:45 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to point out as a PSA here: "Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. There were at least three people there: the victim, the guy that said call 9-1-1 and the guy that asked “where is he bleeding from?” Telling someone to call 9-1-1 while you deal with the injury is perfectly acceptable. In fact, it’s the taught procedure in any first aid or CPR class. If you have ever called 9-1-1 you know they are going to be asking a lot of questions. You can’t answer the questions and also focus on administering first aid. Dividing the responsibilities, the call to 9-1-1 and administering first aid, between two people is not only proper, it’s both efficient and effective. Their response was appropriate. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:35:25 PM EDT
[#26]
I’m surprised the “expert” isn’t wearing eye pro. There’s a lot of shit coming out of both ends of those when everything goes right.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:38:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are times when I want to get into destructive devices, then I see a image of a mangled hand from a n exploded grenade launcher or a video like this and realize maybe it’s best to just stick with suppressors, SBRs and machine guns. I have a demilled RPG-7 and RPG-2. I’ve always wanted to have them rebuilt into DDs but I also share your concerns. For now they’ll just be wall art. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:39:26 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m surprised the “expert” isn’t wearing eye pro. There’s a lot of shit coming out of both ends of those when everything goes right. I like how the guy at the end of the video says it was just something completely out of their control. Was it really though? ?? |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:48:57 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd argue the opposite - you can't assess and apply emergency first aid AND call 911 at the same time.. (unless you ask Siri to). At every live-fire training class I've taken at least two students are designated as 911 callers - reason being the instructors usually have more medical training. (though my last pistol class there was a medical doctor as a student) I've only seen a few of the BHS videos, they do make good stuff - here's hoping Adam makes a full recovery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd like to point out as a PSA here: "Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. I'd argue the opposite - you can't assess and apply emergency first aid AND call 911 at the same time.. (unless you ask Siri to). At every live-fire training class I've taken at least two students are designated as 911 callers - reason being the instructors usually have more medical training. (though my last pistol class there was a medical doctor as a student) I've only seen a few of the BHS videos, they do make good stuff - here's hoping Adam makes a full recovery. This. Just like CPR, someone has to take control of the situation and start telling people to contact emergency services while attempting to save the victim’s life. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:50:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to point out as a PSA here: "Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. If you are the one taking charge in a situation like this, you always point to someone and tell them to call 911. in a medical emergency, jobs need to be divided up. the one administering first aid isnt going to have the time to talk to 911, who is going to be asking tons of questions |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:51:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They offered one up @$200 a shot in Cambodia when I was at the range. What could go wrong? I declined. Same with tossing their old ass frags. Edit: rpg-7 not CG. Yeah, there's vids of tourists in all kinds of shitholes firing RPGs or tossing an F1 into a pond. Fuck all that noise. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:55:36 PM EDT
[#32]
*oh cool, you made some “prototype/experimental’ rounds for an RPG-7?…but you’re going to LET me shoot them first? How about you go fuck yourself…* When he says early in the video that the guy that developed the round for the CG *let* him try the first round… I pictured the Piccard face palm. Dude is lucky to be alive let alone supposedly going to make a full recovery.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 10:58:31 PM EDT
[#33]
damn.
just watched the video now. I didn't expect that part. they have the failure in high speed. I would think. that sure would go a long way to showing what happened. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:00:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is that they had that fake head WAY too close to the back of the tube. It obstructed enough of the pressure evacuation to cause a catastrophic failure of the tube. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:02:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: those didn't look like "real" rockets. Someone’s homebrewed on a printer stuff. The thing has been in inventory for oh, seventy something years. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:03:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to point out as a PSA here: "Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. In or classes for wilderness first aid and first responder stuff, we were told otherwise. Basically we have training, were better utilized stopping the bleed and working the scene. Most people will be in shock and need to be ordered to do stuff. One issue is you can't go someone call 911 you need to be direct eye contact "you get your phone out now" once phone is out, "dial 911 now". Their ability to make decisions is shot but they will respond to basic commands. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:05:26 PM EDT
[#37]
The placement of the head didn't do them any favors.
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:07:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are times when I want to get into destructive devices, then I see a image of a mangled hand from a n exploded grenade launcher or a video like this and realize maybe it’s best to just stick with suppressors, SBRs and machine guns. Regular Joe's can't even get factory ordnance, can they? Which means rolling the dice with stuff from 'Jimmy's Home Brewed ordnance, tackle and bait'... 
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:08:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Looked to me like they obstructed the backblast quite a bit, whether that was part of it is kind of hard to tell without more info and unblurred photos/video.
Shooting stuff like that without safety glasses (the other guy) is weapons grade retarded. Glasses cost like $5. Is your eyesight worth that? |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:08:35 PM EDT
[#40]
I kind of get the thrill aspect (and the YT $ aspect) of those with little to no experience firing interesting/exotic weapons, but there’s typically significant risk involved. Then they act shocked when something bad happens.
If you’re saving others and yourself (i.e. killing bad guys), the risk is justified. For thrill and/or $…not so much IMO. As others have already stated, given the opportunity would I? Only under the most controlled conditions. BTDT, don’t need to do it for the thrill…or (additional) TBI. Hope he’s OK amd has learned a (life) lesson. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:08:38 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to point out as a PSA here: "Call 911!" is a fucking stupid statement. If it's occurring to you that "oh sheet, I need an amberlamps!", then start rooting around in your cleavage for that iPhone and call the fucking number yourself. It's a classic example of bystander effect. Get it in your head to ACT when something occurs, rather than shout in a hopeful manner that someone else will Do The Thing That Needs Doing. This inclination needs to be trained out of people. The best way I'm aware of is this: to decide ahead of time that when something occurs your plan is to start acting. Not to wait, not to hope others will, not to look around. But that the very instant you realize that shit hit the fan, that you're already moving to or away from the threat, situational dependent. raise your hand if you've never taken charge in an emergency situation.... edit - already addressed multiple times. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:09:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Concur, same with the Gustav: "prototype rounds"? The thing has been in inventory for oh, seventy something years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: those didn't look like "real" rockets. Someone's homebrewed on a printer stuff. The thing has been in inventory for oh, seventy something years. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:14:01 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think 2 Marine warrant officers got killed in iraq shooting one for the fuck of it. Form 1st Battalion, 10th Marines, TF Tarawa |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:14:08 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I imagine getting factory ammunition for these is impossible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: those didn't look like "real" rockets. Someone's homebrewed on a printer stuff. The thing has been in inventory for oh, seventy something years. It's not IF you are a professional who works in the defense industry. These guntubers are NOT for the most part. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:14:59 PM EDT
[#45]
who?
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:21:02 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. In every event i've been a part of where somebody needed medical assistance I am yelling at somebody to call it in....because i'm fucking busy at the moment. Applying aid is only a stopgap to get to follow on care, which does not matter if nobody calls it in. Bingo. This is why we set up people to call 911 at the beginning of every class. Just in case. I've never needed my medical plan and I pray I never will. But I do have one. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 11:21:53 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like how the guy at the end of the video says it was just something completely out of their control. Was it really though? ?? My guess is that they don't know what they don't know. And that's dangerous as fuck. You can't effectively mitigate risks you don't understand. |
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:07:01 AM EDT
[#48]
Ok now I don't want an RPG
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:07:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2023 12:58:01 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Regular Joe's can't even get factory ordnance, can they? Which means rolling the dice with stuff from 'Jimmy's Home Brewed ordnance, tackle and bait'... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are times when I want to get into destructive devices, then I see a image of a mangled hand from a n exploded grenade launcher or a video like this and realize maybe it’s best to just stick with suppressors, SBRs and machine guns. Regular Joe's can't even get factory ordnance, can they? Which means rolling the dice with stuff from 'Jimmy's Home Brewed ordnance, tackle and bait'... A HE 200 dollar stamped Gustav round would Be ordinance, bait, and tackle all in one. You wouldn’t even need to gas up your boat just use a landing net. |
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