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4/12/2016 8:33:14 AM EDT
I could be completely mistaken, but there are two women I see everyday at work (usually in the cafeteria or walking in the halls) that I'm convinced are just gaming the system. Both walk just fine, in heels none the less, no limp, no assistance, have both legs, both arms. On two separate occasions I've walked out of work and watched both of them walk (normally) to their vehicles parked in the closest handicapped spots. I will say, they do park like they're handicapped, but that's another discussion.

Perhaps, I'm missing something, but if you're able to walk all around a building in heels, and you aren't missing any limbs how did you "qualify" for a handicap pass? Not being insensitive, but we have about 30 handicap spots and half are constantly empty. Seems like buildings are having to over designate spots for so many people abusing the system.
4/12/2016 8:36:12 AM EDT
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Stuff like that doesn't make it on my radar.
4/12/2016 8:39:29 AM EDT
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It happened to be the one lady I notice at work because she is absolutely annoying.
4/12/2016 8:39:41 AM EDT
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When I was wearing a walking boot healing from a broken ankle and had a HC tag, I was pissed at a lot of people who parked next to me, got out, and walked totally normal into the building.  I did work with a couple guys diagnosed with cardiac issues that were given HC status by their doctors, so it's not always an obvious handicap.  But like any perk, there are scammers out there, too.
4/12/2016 8:40:44 AM EDT
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Don't care, and I have a tag.

Haven't needed it in a while.
4/12/2016 8:46:32 AM EDT
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When I was wearing a walking boot healing from a broken ankle and had a HC tag, I was pissed at a lot of people who parked next to me, got out, and walked totally normal into the building.  I did work with a couple guys diagnosed with cardiac issues that were given HC status by their doctors, so it's not always an obvious handicap.  But like any perk, there are scammers out there, too.
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This is what gets me. There are people that need that for one reason or another.
I'm always in line at the cafeteria either behind or in front of one of them and she is annoying as hell. Constantly, teasing the grill personnel in a way that it could be funny, but she says things that could be perceived as offensive.
4/12/2016 8:52:10 AM EDT
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Well it probably is BS, it could be some sort of cardiac issue or something that is not readily apparent.
4/12/2016 8:54:51 AM EDT
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Are they obese?  Most of the people parking in handicap spots around here do it because they are obese and abusing the system.
4/12/2016 8:55:51 AM EDT
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There's a retirement community called Grove, OK up on Grand Lake in the northeast corner of the state. Lots of "got a little money" (redneck wealthy) people buy "cabins" on the lake and retire there.

EVERYONE has a "Handicapped Parking Permit". I think the city Welcome Wagon hands them out in gift baskets.

Just like counterfeit money, handicapped parking permits are worthless when everyone in town has one.


I've seen old farts up there power walking with tiny dumbells in hand, wearing their joggin suits and scooting around the streets off of Honey Creek Cove in the early mornings and then the SAME people still wearing their jogging suits fighting over the few handicapped parking spaces in front of the Walmart at noon.
4/12/2016 9:11:34 AM EDT
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No, not that that should be a reason either, but like I mentioned they're (at least the one) able to walk in heels.
4/12/2016 9:21:22 AM EDT
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This. But I'll bet they have knee issues due to the fatassedness and that's how they got the permit.

I always laugh at the fact that there are people here at work (a manufacturing facility) that need to use the handicapped spots. I mean, they get to park a whole 20 yards closer to the door so they can walk inside and be on their feet working for 8 hours like everyone else. Makes a whole lot of sense.
4/12/2016 9:21:35 AM EDT
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Here's another one:

An acquaintance's family recently had to put grandma in a nursing home. Ended the lease on her house and split up her things that she couldn't take with her.

The old piece-o-crap car hadn't run in years and was covered with bird crap so they gave it to one of her grandkids because it was still a better car than the one they had.


What caused the family fight? Not who got the car...but who got the HANDICAPPED PARKING PLACARD. The blue cardboard door hanger that hangs from the rearview mirror (and blocks half the driver's view of the street) and allows the driver to park in handicapped spaces because no one ever checks the fine print to see if it's expired or issued to the right person/car.

4/12/2016 9:22:02 AM EDT
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A handicapped tag can also be given to someone who doesn't drive for use when being driven by others. This gets massively abused, because the tag is only "valid" when the disabled person is being transported, but people use them anyway. My guess would be that the women have done person at home that qualifies, and use the privileges regardless.

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4/12/2016 9:24:28 AM EDT
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I could technically qualify for one of those tags if I want.

But unless I'm physically impaired from walking then I won't bother and despise idiots who abuse it
4/12/2016 9:27:10 AM EDT
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The last time I was riding my motorcycle through Mena, AR, I saw another rider with an Arkansas MOTORCYCLE handicapped tag.

If you have to park your hog near the door, you ain't got NO business riding a motorcycle in the first place.
4/12/2016 9:27:12 AM EDT
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Who cares. The ADA is Big Daddy Government nonsense anyway.
4/12/2016 9:29:40 AM EDT
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I have one, but I do my best not to use it unless I absolutely have too. Like if there are no spots left or if it's a day I'm in extreme pain and I need to be in and out of the location quickly.
4/12/2016 9:30:38 AM EDT
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Probably are gaming the system.
4/12/2016 9:31:47 AM EDT
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No, not that that should be a reason either, but like I mentioned they're (at least the one) able to walk in heels.
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No, not that that should be a reason either, but like I mentioned they're (at least the one) able to walk in heels.

Oh, you should see some of the fatties here and the shit they wear on their feet, heels included.  300lbs with skin tight pants, ham-feet stuffed into heels, getting out of their luxury SUV that is half-assed parked in a handicap spot.  They walk a few feet and plop themselves down in one of those shopping scooters and cruise around the grocery store filling up on disgusting food for the next few days.  Bonus points are when they get pissy that the line is taking so long, while on their new iphone, then swiping their EBT cards to pay for it all.  Double bonus points when they have to pick through and leave some items at the cashier because they suck at math.  Can you tell I'm a little jaded?
4/12/2016 9:45:03 AM EDT
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I have a buddy with MS. I've known the guy for 7 years and it wasn't until last summer I found out he had a handicap pass. He said he only uses it when he needs to.
4/12/2016 9:53:31 AM EDT
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I thought about trying to get one just to see how easy it is.

I used to suffer from chronic gout, on crutches on a regular basis.  I never bothered as I'd be too embarrassed parking in a handicap spot even if I needed it.
4/12/2016 10:02:44 AM EDT
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I have a tag. On my good days I don't use it but I could. Unless I am having a really bad day I won't use it. I understand the feeling to see people parking in handicapped zones that sprint out of their cars into the store.
4/12/2016 10:04:19 AM EDT
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This.




Countries without the ADA fingerfucking every business seem to get along just fine.
4/12/2016 10:06:12 AM EDT
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I see incidents like the OP and realize I am not a medical professional and therefore not qualified to assess if the person is "deserving" of the HC placard or not.  

And even if I were, I wouldn't stop them on the way to the cafeteria and give them an independent examination to see if they were qualified to have the HC placard.
4/12/2016 10:06:16 AM EDT
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My favorite ones is when the guys in the corvettes jumps out of their cars in the handicap spot, trot over to the golf store to buy new clubs.
4/12/2016 10:07:22 AM EDT
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4/12/2016 10:08:41 AM EDT
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4/12/2016 10:16:04 AM EDT
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4/12/2016 10:16:48 AM EDT
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My father had a placard when he was dying, and I used to drive him around on his errands.

However, I just dropped him off at the door and then parked out in the boonies, because parking in a handicapped spot only ensured that his truck would have the paint beaten off of it by fat arsed entitlement gatherers who apparently could not park and open a car door without dinging the vehicle next to it..........

I would swing around and pick him up when he made an appearance at the building entrance.
4/12/2016 10:20:04 AM EDT
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I stutter
4/12/2016 10:23:01 AM EDT
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I see incidents like the OP and realize I am not a medical professional and therefore not qualified to assess if the person is "deserving" of the HC placard or not.  

And even if I were, I wouldn't stop them on the way to the cafeteria and give them an independent examination to see if they were qualified to have the HC placard.
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I assure you, you wouldn't want to.
4/12/2016 10:25:00 AM EDT
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I have a placard and my DV tags. If there are spots near the handicap spaces I will use those. If I do have to use a spot, I try to make sure there are other available handicap spots before I take a spot. Alot of times after a long day at work, I have to use a spot, but it is apparent by looking at the way I walk, I have a legitimate reason for the placard.
4/12/2016 10:32:07 AM EDT
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Some years ago I want to Walmart supercenter in the middle of the night. I counted something like 38 or 48 handicap parking spaces. Every space hit a car in it. Being in the middle of the night the parking lot with mostly empty. I don't understandwhy they use handicap parking spaces so far away from the front door when there were regular space is much closer.
4/12/2016 10:33:35 AM EDT
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A handicapped tag can also be given to someone who doesn't drive for use when being driven by others. This gets massively abused, because the tag is only "valid" when the disabled person is being transported, but people use them anyway. My guess would be that the women have done person at home that qualifies, and use the privileges regardless.

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Here you go.  I have several family friends or relatives who have reached an age where they can't drive and also have significant physical limitations on walking.  Doctor's give them a HC placard.  It can legally be used by anyone transporting them, but I know of instances where a person who is the usual driver has kept t it in their vehicle and used it for their own convenience even when not transporting the HC placard holder.
4/12/2016 10:34:25 AM EDT
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some diabetics have stickers for their foot pain.
4/12/2016 10:39:34 AM EDT
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I used to go every where with my grandfather who was in a wheel chair and had a handicap van with a folding ramp for him to get out.  I cant tell you how many people we used to harass who were clearly abusing the system.  I still call people out regularly even though my grandfather is gone.  It just one of those things that drives me nuts.  I have yet to have a person who I call say they actually need to take that spot, almost every single one goes and gets back in their car and parks in a normal spot.  Cant tell you all the times we would go somewhere and he wouldn't be able to get a spot but some over weight slob gets out of their car after pulling into the closest spot to the door with mcdonalds wrappers falling off their gut on the way in.  

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4/12/2016 10:41:54 AM EDT
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Around here it's guys with lifted 4X4's with permanent HC plates that make me go .
A Seattle TV station did an investigative report a few years ago about HC placard abuse. They parked at the walk on ferry terminal and watched people with placards run to catch the ferry. Of course here, if you have a HC placard you don't have to pay for parking. So the big issue wasn't that they had HC placards they didn't need, it was that the city was losing tons of revenue thru parking fees.
4/12/2016 10:50:47 AM EDT
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I see far, far, more people that do not appear to be legit with tags.

 I do understand there is probably a condition that I'm not aware of in some cases.

4/12/2016 10:53:54 AM EDT
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There shouldn't be any handicapped parking spaces at all
4/12/2016 10:59:03 AM EDT
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It irritates me. We have one douche bag that drives a giant f350 and parks in th HC spot. he's HC but can still climb up in that big ass truck.
4/12/2016 11:04:45 AM EDT
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It should be up to the person or company that owns the parking lot, that's for sure.

I remember way back when I was in college, parking at my apartment complex was always scarce.  Then the complex was forced by the .gov to add a handicapped parking spot in front of my building, because a legally disabled person moved in, and they had to add the spot to maintain compliance with ADA or whatever.

The dude was "handicapped" because he was 100% BLIND!!!!    Naturally the spot stayed empty except for the occasional drunk idiot who promptly got his shit towed.

(BTW, nothing against the blind guy, he was actually a pretty cool dude, and he thought the parking spot was fucking stupid too).
4/12/2016 11:09:06 AM EDT
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I could be completely mistaken, but there are two women I see everyday at work (usually in the cafeteria or walking in the halls) that I'm convinced are just gaming the system. Both walk just fine, in heels none the less, no limp, no assistance, have both legs, both arms. On two separate occasions I've walked out of work and watched both of them walk (normally) to their vehicles parked in the closest handicapped spots. I will say, they do park like they're handicapped, but that's another discussion.

Perhaps, I'm missing something, but if you're able to walk all around a building in heels, and you aren't missing any limbs how did you "qualify" for a handicap pass? Not being insensitive, but we have about 30 handicap spots and half are constantly empty. Seems like buildings are having to over designate spots for so many people abusing the system.
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If it isn't physical, must be mental. Ask her where she is on the spectrum.
4/12/2016 11:15:38 AM EDT
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My boss has severe arthritis and had multi surgeries on his feet and legs.  He bitches about the same thing students using handicap spots that jump out of car and just walk in like nothing is wrong and the people who are gaming the system.  I work on a college campus and sometimes parking can be 1/4-1/2 mile walk if you cannot get a handicap spot he has actually had to limp in because of people who abuse the system.
4/12/2016 1:53:22 PM EDT
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I could be completely mistaken, but there are two women I see everyday at work (usually in the cafeteria or walking in the halls) that I'm convinced are just gaming the system. Both walk just fine, in heels none the less, no limp, no assistance, have both legs, both arms. On two separate occasions I've walked out of work and watched both of them walk (normally) to their vehicles parked in the closest handicapped spots. I will say, they do park like they're handicapped, but that's another discussion.

Perhaps, I'm missing something, but if you're able to walk all around a building in heels, and you aren't missing any limbs how did you "qualify" for a handicap pass? Not being insensitive, but we have about 30 handicap spots and half are constantly empty. Seems like buildings are having to over designate spots for so many people abusing the system.
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Just ask your employer to check the permit paperwork of everyone... A nice cop needing to fill his quota might even help you at about $500 a ticket.
4/12/2016 1:54:39 PM EDT
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Or, you  know, just mind your own fucking business.  
4/12/2016 1:56:41 PM EDT
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I could be completely mistaken, but there are two women I see everyday at work (usually in the cafeteria or walking in the halls) that I'm convinced are just gaming the system. Both walk just fine, in heels none the less, no limp, no assistance, have both legs, both arms. On two separate occasions I've walked out of work and watched both of them walk (normally) to their vehicles parked in the closest handicapped spots. I will say, they do park like they're handicapped, but that's another discussion.
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What is their cardiac condition and/or lung capacity?
4/12/2016 2:01:45 PM EDT
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I could be completely mistaken, but there are two women I see everyday at work (usually in the cafeteria or walking in the halls) that I'm convinced are just gaming the system. Both walk just fine, in heels none the less, no limp, no assistance, have both legs, both arms. On two separate occasions I've walked out of work and watched both of them walk (normally) to their vehicles parked in the closest handicapped spots. I will say, they do park like they're handicapped, but that's another discussion.
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What is their cardiac condition and/or lung capacity?




This - the whiners can have my disabled pass if they will take my cardiomyopathy, congestive heart failure, and LVEF of 25%.  However I can walk into a building just fine.
4/12/2016 2:03:17 PM EDT
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Fuck the ADA
4/12/2016 2:06:23 PM EDT
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you see lots of them in downtown Seattle. it allows a vehicle to park all day in the same spot without paying or penalty.  they did a sting a couple of years back and caught a few people. they are'nt hard to get. you just need to know the right contact.

4/12/2016 2:19:04 PM EDT
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Here in the DC area, you'll occasionally see cars with diplomatic tags park in HC spots-supposedly they get keyed at a fairly high rate when they do so.
4/12/2016 2:21:48 PM EDT
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Its all relative, as I've been 'stinkeyed' as an abuser (broken leg, broken arm, broken face, and had a temp placard). I recall a few times being in a jeep (yep, raised) and getting the stink eye from some dude walking past me on crutches, or some old granny wearing diabetes socks. I never felt obliged to raise up my arm, or stick my leg in a cast out the door, and I've seen the heated discussions in a wallyworld parking lot on who's more entitled to the available HC spot...I always thought well, if some guy shows up in an iron lung, Ill back out and let him have the spot.
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