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AR15.COM
5/31/2008 2:29:30 PM EDT
ATF apologizes for misleading letter, says it gave out tools
The Associated Press • Published May 31, 2008

Comments The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives apologized to U.S. Rep. Bill Sali of Idaho for a misleading letter indicating he played a role in the agency's decision to drop its "Always Think Forfeiture" slogan.

The slogan was actually dropped after Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski complained.

Sali claimed responsibility two weeks ago, only to learn later from news organizations he had nothing to do with it.

The slogan was abandoned in March after Murkowski's complaint.

Two-thousand multi-tools were engraved with the slogan and were to be handed out at ATF training sessions for law enforcement agents.

But lawmakers including Sali feared it would encourage agents to seize weapons from even law-abiding citizens.

In his apology last week, acting ATF director Michael Sullivan conceded the agency had distributed 242 engraved multi-tools.

Previously, the agency maintained none had been distributed.
5/31/2008 2:31:52 PM EDT
[#1]
Typical.
5/31/2008 2:34:21 PM EDT
[#2]
And the other 1758 multitools are now going to go home with ATF employees...

Kharn
5/31/2008 2:37:48 PM EDT
[#3]
Agents Tramping Freedom
5/31/2008 2:38:13 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm sure not having a little pliers with "Always Think Forfeiture" on it is really going to change the agency's culture.
5/31/2008 2:42:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Agents Taking Freedom
5/31/2008 2:42:14 PM EDT
[#6]
the apololigy is all well and good.  but will it stop them from actually "Always Think Forfeiture"?
5/31/2008 2:43:28 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I'm sure not having a little pliers with "Always Think Forfeiture" on it is really going to change the agency's culture.


Agree.
5/31/2008 2:44:18 PM EDT
[#8]
I want one.
5/31/2008 2:44:19 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
the apololigy is all well and good.  but will it stop them from actually "Always Think Forfeiture"?


No.
5/31/2008 2:44:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Ebay!!!
5/31/2008 2:47:05 PM EDT
[#11]
The ATF didn't apologize for the slogan, they apologized for sending a letter to a senator saying he made them drop it when he didn't.

Big difference.
5/31/2008 2:48:23 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I'm sure not having a little pliers with "Always Think Forfeiture" on it is really going to change the agency's culture.


Good point.
5/31/2008 2:49:16 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
The ATF didn't apologize for the slogan, they apologized for sending a letter to a senator saying he made them drop it when he didn't.

Big difference.



THIS
5/31/2008 2:55:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Agents' Tools Forfeited
5/31/2008 2:56:35 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Agents' Tools Forfeited
5/31/2008 2:57:29 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The ATF didn't apologize for the slogan, they apologized for sending a letter to a senator saying he made them drop it when he didn't.

Big difference.



THIS

+2
5/31/2008 2:57:31 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
The ATF didn't apologize for the slogan, they apologized for sending a letter to a senator saying he made them drop it when he didn't.

Big difference.


QFT
5/31/2008 2:57:57 PM EDT
[#18]
And as usual Bush didn't do jack.
5/31/2008 2:58:22 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Agents Taking Freedom


I could think of a better word that begins with "A"

Hint:
5/31/2008 4:20:20 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Agents' Tools Forfeited


5/31/2008 4:27:18 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I want one.


I think that the 242 tools in circulation should be declared contraband and allowed to be seized upon discovery by the American people.
5/31/2008 4:29:33 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I want one.


I think that the 242 tools in circulation should be declared contraband and allowed to be seized upon discovery by the American people.


I think the ATF should be declared enemies of the public, dissolved as an organization, have all their rules and regulations struck down, and every member either imprisoned or deported to Somalia.
5/31/2008 4:30:03 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I'm sure not having a little pliers with "Always Think Forfeiture" on it is really going to change the agency's culture.


+1

The ATF is completely missing the point.  No suprise....unfortunately.
5/31/2008 4:32:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Way to go Lisa!!
5/31/2008 5:05:19 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I want one.


I think that the 242 tools in circulation should be declared contraband and allowed to be seized upon discovery by the American people.


I think the ATF should be declared enemies of the public, dissolved as an organization, have all their rules and regulations struck down, and every member either imprisoned or deported to Somalia.


Elect me as president and I'll do just that except for the deportation. I'll transfer them all to ICE and station them at the border, BWAHAHAH. . Then I'll turn that fancy new building into the grandest monthly gun show on earth.

I think the remaining 1700 tools should be sold for $20 apiece and 100% of the proceeds sent to the ILA legal defense fund.



5/31/2008 5:21:37 PM EDT
[#26]
Isn't Sullivan that little Massachusetts perckerwood nominated by that great supporter of the 2nd amendment Dubya? The one that them other peckerwoods Ted Kennedy and John Kerry are enamored with?
5/31/2008 5:33:17 PM EDT
[#27]
They apologize, but they are not sorry about it. Not one bit.
5/31/2008 5:38:58 PM EDT
[#28]
they still are going to be rights violators suck
5/31/2008 5:42:26 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
And the other 1758 multitools are now going to go home with ATF employees...

Kharn
yea great aint it
5/31/2008 5:45:13 PM EDT
[#30]
That's why I will never give one sent to purchase a Leatherman.  

That CEO is a full blown gun grabbing douchebag.

5/31/2008 9:05:07 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
The ATF didn't apologize for the slogan, they apologized for sending a letter to a senator saying he made them drop it when he didn't.

Big difference.


ain't that the truth...
5/31/2008 9:10:54 PM EDT
[#32]
I can't wait till they piss off 4chan.
5/31/2008 9:30:05 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The ATF didn't apologize for the slogan, they apologized for sending a letter to a senator saying he made them drop it when he didn't.

Big difference.



THIS

+2
+3
5/31/2008 9:39:41 PM EDT
[#34]
They should be declared legal to own as long as it is not used for its intended purpose and  the said ATF agent does not possess any screw, bolt or piece of wire ( or any other article at the whim of the director) that allows the before mentioned item to be used as a "tool"
the item does not have to be proven it was used as a "tool" only that possession of the item and piece of material that could be worked on would constitute possession of a "tool" and therefore be illegal
5/31/2008 9:49:33 PM EDT
[#35]
The ATF ought to apologize for a heck of a lot more than some stupid mulit-tools....
5/31/2008 9:52:12 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
I can't wait till they piss off 4chan.


That will be when 4chan learns they are nothing more than rank amateurs.