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1/23/2010 4:59:13 PM EDT
http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/localnews/2010/01/23/atf-raid-nets-guns-explosives-68.php


ATF raid nets guns, explosives
Officials: No arrests made
By: Jim Williamson - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 01/23/2010

Guns and explosives were recovered from a house south of De Queen, Ark., Thursday morning during a multi-agency search.

No arrests were made pending additional investigation by law enforcement agencies including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Numerous guns described as “long guns” and handguns were confiscated throughout the house and in a gun safe, said Sevier County Sheriff Monte Stringfellow.

Agents brought the homeowner, Jamie Baker, to the house to assist in opening doors, but no arrest was made, said Stringfellow.

He confirmed...
1/23/2010 5:04:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Need more info? Was he selling guns working as a straw buyer, gun running?
1/23/2010 5:07:18 PM EDT
[#2]
If he wasn't arrested, how do they justify "recovering" the firearms?

1/23/2010 5:08:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Tagus for detailus

1/23/2010 5:08:21 PM EDT
[#4]
Lawyer time.
1/23/2010 5:09:58 PM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/localnews/2010/01/23/atf-raid-nets-guns-explosives-68.php





ATF raid nets guns, explosives

Officials: No arrests made

By: Jim Williamson - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 01/23/2010



Guns and explosives were recovered from a house south of De Queen, Ark., Thursday morning during a multi-agency search.



No arrests were made pending additional investigation by law enforcement agencies including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.



Numerous guns described as “long guns” and handguns were confiscated throughout the house and in a gun safe, said Sevier County Sheriff Monte Stringfellow.



Agents brought the homeowner, Jamie Baker, to the house to assist in opening doors, but no arrest was made, said Stringfellow.



He confirmed...


I am of the opinion that you ought not to be raiding citizen's homes if you don't already have enough evidence to make an arrest.





 
1/23/2010 5:15:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:

Quoted:
http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/localnews/2010/01/23/atf-raid-nets-guns-explosives-68.php


ATF raid nets guns, explosives
Officials: No arrests made
By: Jim Williamson - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 01/23/2010

Guns and explosives were recovered from a house south of De Queen, Ark., Thursday morning during a multi-agency search.

No arrests were made pending additional investigation by law enforcement agencies including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Numerous guns described as “long guns” and handguns were confiscated throughout the house and in a gun safe, said Sevier County Sheriff Monte Stringfellow.

Agents brought the homeowner, Jamie Baker, to the house to assist in opening doors, but no arrest was made, said Stringfellow.

He confirmed...

I am of the opinion that you ought not to be raiding citizen's homes if you don't already have enough evidence to make an arrest.

 


What he said
1/23/2010 5:18:16 PM EDT
[#7]
i wonder if these "explosives" were cases of rifle primers.
1/23/2010 5:18:31 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
If he wasn't arrested, how do they justify "recovering" the firearms?


It was for the children

1/23/2010 5:19:25 PM EDT
[#9]
"Explosives".

Probably a couple of pounds of reloading powder.
1/23/2010 5:22:24 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:





Quoted:

http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/localnews/2010/01/23/atf-raid-nets-guns-explosives-68.php





ATF raid nets guns, explosives

Officials: No arrests made

By: Jim Williamson - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 01/23/2010



Guns and explosives were recovered from a house south of De Queen, Ark., Thursday morning during a multi-agency search.



No arrests were made pending additional investigation by law enforcement agencies including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.



Numerous guns described as “long guns” and handguns were confiscated throughout the house and in a gun safe, said Sevier County Sheriff Monte Stringfellow.



Agents brought the homeowner, Jamie Baker, to the house to assist in opening doors, but no arrest was made, said Stringfellow.



He confirmed...


I am of the opinion that you ought not to be raiding citizen's homes if you don't already have enough evidence to make an arrest.



 


They ought to make that a policy.





 
1/23/2010 5:29:31 PM EDT
[#11]





Quoted:
Quoted:





I am of the opinion that you ought not to be raiding citizen's homes if you don't already have enough evidence to make an arrest.


 



They ought to make that a policy.


 



They already have. It's called the 4th Amendment.







 
1/23/2010 5:49:21 PM EDT
[#12]
a federal grand jury, or judge, can authorize a warrant based on "evidence" presented to them, pending "investigation"
this way by showing without said evidence they cannot make an arrest. Once they have the "alledged evidence" they proceed to make a case.

a warrant does not an arrest during the search, and or afterwards, make. it is more for evidence gathering than anything else.  we all know the ATF is not going to test a weapon for "irregularities" in the field. that is done behind closed doors in a "controlled enviroment"  then if an illegal weapon is found the arrest follows.
1/23/2010 6:15:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
a federal grand jury, or judge, can authorize a warrant based on "evidence" presented to them, pending "investigation"
this way by showing without said evidence they cannot make an arrest. Once they have the "alledged evidence" they proceed to make a case.

a warrant does not an arrest during the search, and or afterwards, make. it is more for evidence gathering than anything else.  we all know the ATF is not going to test a weapon for "irregularities" in the field. that is done behind closed doors in a "controlled enviroment"  then if an when they make a illegal weapon is found the  a arrest follows.


fixt

1/23/2010 6:18:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
a federal grand jury, or judge, can authorize a warrant based on "evidence" presented to them, pending "investigation"
this way by showing without said evidence they cannot make an arrest. Once they have the "alledged evidence" they proceed to make a case.

a warrant does not an arrest during the search, and or afterwards, make. it is more for evidence gathering than anything else.  we all know the ATF is not going to test a weapon for "irregularities" in the field. that is done behind closed doors in a "controlled enviroment"  then if an when they make a illegal weapon is found the  a arrest follows.


fixt



That would be funny if it wasn't true.

1/23/2010 6:18:58 PM EDT
[#15]




Quoted:

i wonder if these "explosives" were cases of rifle primers.




or fireworks.
1/23/2010 6:24:18 PM EDT
[#16]
I grew up in that town and lived there until 12 yrs old.


That being said, there are some crazy sumbitches in that town/area and god only knows what they were intended for. I am suprised that they didn't "find" any meth also.
1/23/2010 6:25:32 PM EDT
[#17]





Quoted:Quoted:




http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/localnews/2010/01/23/atf-raid-nets-guns-explosives-68.php





ATF raid nets guns, explosives


Officials: No arrests made


By: Jim Williamson - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 01/23/2010





Guns and explosives were recovered from a house south of De Queen, Ark., Thursday morning during a multi-agency search.





No arrests were made pending additional investigation by law enforcement agencies including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.





Numerous guns described as “long guns” and handguns were confiscated throughout the house and in a gun safe, said Sevier County Sheriff Monte Stringfellow.





Agents brought the homeowner, Jamie Baker, to the house to assist in opening doors, but no arrest was made, said Stringfellow.





He confirmed...
I am of the opinion that you ought not to be raiding citizen's homes if you don't already have enough evidence to make an arrest.


Wonder how long it will take them to bring this to trial.


**COUGH**
DAY 693  **COUGH**









 
 
1/23/2010 6:25:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
If he wasn't arrested, how do they justify "recovering" the firearms?


Seeing more and more reports of "raids" and "searches" with confiscation taking place without clear detail on PC.....

1/23/2010 6:29:03 PM EDT
[#19]


ATF: "Explosives" = firecrackers and Roman Candles.






BTW: how did the dog fare in this one?
1/23/2010 6:34:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

Quoted:
http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/localnews/2010/01/23/atf-raid-nets-guns-explosives-68.php


ATF raid nets guns, explosives
Officials: No arrests made
By: Jim Williamson - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 01/23/2010

Guns and explosives were recovered from a house south of De Queen, Ark., Thursday morning during a multi-agency search.

No arrests were made pending additional investigation by law enforcement agencies including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Numerous guns described as “long guns” and handguns were confiscated throughout the house and in a gun safe, said Sevier County Sheriff Monte Stringfellow.

Agents brought the homeowner, Jamie Baker, to the house to assist in opening doors, but no arrest was made, said Stringfellow.

He confirmed...

I am of the opinion that you ought not to be raiding citizen's homes if you don't already have enough evidence to make an arrest.

 


Often times, even though enough probable cause exists to secure a search warrant, the decision is made not to secure an arrest warrant until the grand jury returns an indictment.
1/23/2010 6:40:01 PM EDT
[#21]
Wrong state - not interesting, doesn't fit the meme.

1/23/2010 6:59:00 PM EDT
[#22]
The "owner" must not the "resident".
1/23/2010 7:11:50 PM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:


The "owner" must not the "resident".


as long as he the whole thing



 
1/23/2010 7:12:44 PM EDT
[#24]
GLOVES OFF. GAME ON.