Posted: 12/10/2016 10:48:41 AM EDT
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I have a Spikes Spartan lower.
CMC 2 Stage trigger. Magpul UBR G1. Anderson builders parts kit. Erogo grip. To the question. My LGS has semi stripped uppers. They have dust covers and Fwd assist installed. $80 + tax. Should I be looking for something that tells me if they are inferior, or is the money in a good barrel and BCG? I want a midlength, low profile gas system and a free float of my choice with Diamondhead BUIS. |
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I have a Spikes Satan lower. CMC 2 Stage trigger. Magpul UBR G1. Anderson builders parts kit. Erogo grip. To the question. My LGS has semi stripped uppers. They have dust covers and Fwd assist installed. $80 + tax. Should I be looking for something that tells me if they are inferior, or is the money in a good barrel and BCG? I want a midlength, low profile gas system and a free float of my choice with Diamondhead BUIS. What brand upper? I only use VLTOR MUR uppers, but then again I want all my shit to be correct. |
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What does that upper come with for $170? FA, Dust cover, correct dimensions, correct alloy, tight barrel fit. https://www.vltor.com/shop/featured/mur-modular-upper-receiver/ |
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In spec upper is in spec upper. Many brands out there, pick your flavor. Some feel comforted spending more and getting something more aesthetically pleasing, or getting some perceived improvement in features or quality control. Some feel superior spending as little as possible to get a functioning gun, or as little on the upper/lower receiver and dumping a ton into components. Having done all the above, they all work pending in spec components... That said Vltor makes a good looking, high quality product (as I'm sure many thousands of anderson owners will say of their product). I would make sure if you are getting a billet upper receiver, to make sure it will work with your chosen free float rail. There were some issues with some receiver/rail combinations in the past.
I did put together an upper on a vltor mur-1 and have been very pleased with the results. Vltor Mur-1 - got it at DSG. Sometimes they have stupid low prices, and they are generally a solid company that respects their customers 18 Larue predatar/larue low profile gas block Geissele blem rail ta51 from when amazon had screwy prices in a larue mount DSG bcg Surefire 3 prong |
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In spec upper is in spec upper. Many brands out there, pick your flavor. Some feel comforted spending more and getting something more aesthetically pleasing, or getting some perceived improvement in features or quality control. Some feel superior spending as little as possible to get a functioning gun, or as little on the upper/lower receiver and dumping a ton into components. Having done all the above, they all work pending in spec components... That said Vltor makes a good looking, high quality product (as I'm sure many thousands of anderson owners will say of their product). I would make sure if you are getting a billet upper receiver, to make sure it will work with your chosen free float rail. There were some issues with some receiver/rail combinations in the past. I did put together an upper on a vltor mur-1 and have been very pleased with the results. Vltor Mur-1 - got it at DSG. Sometimes they have stupid low prices, and they are generally a solid company that respects their customers 18 Larue predatar/larue low profile gas block Geissele blem rail ta51 from when amazon had screwy prices in a larue mount DSG bcg Surefire 3 prong You are of course correct. QC is an issue though and there have been many complaints about anderson qc and them failing to actually be in spec. I have some anderson lowers that are fine. I am certainly not bashing anderson but there is no comparison in quality, workmanship and fit with vltor. |
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Totally agree with what you're saying. When someone has a stellar reputation, it's *usually* for a reason. Seems like companies like vltor produce an incredibly consistent product and in the off chance something does come out wrong, are quick to make it right.
I took the chance on some Aero lowers recently, and while fit and finish appeared nothing short of spectacular, 2/3 had magwell issues. I apparently missed the well known bitch-fest about this issue and aero's response. For the sake of fairness, I got a quick response from Aero and my lowers should be coming back to me (hopefully with resolution of the issue), but this was clearly not the case for many. Then again, take what I'm saying with a grain of salt, I somehow managed to get my Shadow Ops weaponry lower after one phone call. This was after not communicating with them for damn near a year (my procrastination), and calling them only a few months before they went tits up 
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I would buy the Anderson upper, lap it where the barrel interfaces to make sure it is square, and spend the extra money on the barrel, and bolt.
Here is a tool to do the lapping. tool I have one from Wheeler, and do all my uppers. |
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Midway has them semi stripped as well for $160 on sale. I'm not seeing that. Then again, I'm on a mobile device and sometimes miss stuff. I'm seeing the MUR-1S only at both Midway and SKD. 170something at Midway and 160something at SKD. The 1S is what I have and I'm pretty sure I got it at SKD. I'll take them over Midway all day long. edit: nevermind. i see what you are talking about. 160something and you get the FA. |
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$65 This. Buy two for the price of the vltor or bcm |
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How do we know at what level any one company may hold their QC to? Is it only our experiences as consumers and word of mouth? All I can tell you is that I am not buying an upper that i then have to fix before i build. I think it's worth paying more for a correct part. That's just my opinion. I have had no issues with vltor. I have never heard of anyone having issues with vltor. I have 3 shtf rifles. 2 of them have vltor uppers, the other is lwrc. |
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FA, Dust cover, correct dimensions, correct alloy, tight barrel fit. https://www.vltor.com/shop/featured/mur-modular-upper-receiver/ Quoted:
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What does that upper come with for $170? FA, Dust cover, correct dimensions, correct alloy, tight barrel fit. https://www.vltor.com/shop/featured/mur-modular-upper-receiver/ Kinda oversized in most dimensions. Just built a precision upper on one and holy crap I nearly had to pound the takedown pin in with a hammer. |
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I just built 2 precision rifles with them, no issues. Pins are tight, like the should be. Quoted:
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Kinda oversized in most dimensions. Just built a precision upper on one and holy crap I nearly had to pound the takedown pin in with a hammer. I just built 2 precision rifles with them, no issues. Pins are tight, like the should be. Wasn't complaining I like uppers and lowers to be tight, too. But this was definitely tolerance stacking. Did actually have to use a light hammer and give a few whacks. |
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I would buy the Anderson upper, lap it where the barrel interfaces to make sure it is square, and spend the extra money on the barrel, and bolt. Here is a tool to do the lapping. tool I have one from Wheeler, and do all my uppers. Wouldn't some one looking to make a good shooter better do this anyway? |
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Maybe the pin was out of spec? Quoted:
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Kinda oversized in most dimensions. Just built a precision upper on one and holy crap I nearly had to pound the takedown pin in with a hammer. Maybe the pin was out of spec? Nope. Lower works fine with other uppers. MUR upper on other lowers is tight but manageable. Definitely tolerance stacking. |
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FO!, you won't be disappointed. I have 4 or 5 builds using them. If you are building a rifle for shtf, upper parts are not where you should cut corners. LOL. after HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of rounds on AR/M16/M4 platforms not a single failure has ever been anything to do with the upper receiver. The BCG yes definitely, but what constitutes the "stripped" upper never. You're a fanboy great we get it but acting like this thing is a one and only solution for a "SHTF" ( whatever the fuck that means in any sort of reality) gun is absurd. There are a grand total of about 4 MFG's when it comes to forged uppers the only differences are how good the "finish" is and the other minor machining that is done after forging. |
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LOL. after HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of rounds on AR/M16/M4 platforms not a single failure has ever been anything to do with the upper receiver. The BCG yes definitely, but what constitutes the "stripped" upper never. You're a fanboy great we get it but acting like this thing is a one and only solution for a "SHTF" ( whatever the fuck that means in any sort of reality) gun is absurd. There are a grand total of about 4 MFG's when it comes to forged uppers the only differences are how good the "finish" is and the other minor machining that is done after forging. You seem angry. You should relax and realize that the Op can do whatever he wants. he asked a question and I gave an answer. You did not. You came in here to talk shit to me. So, have a nice day and really just relax. |