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Posted: 3/21/2019 7:45:43 AM EDT
From VCDL
VA-ALERT: ACTION ITEMS: Red Flag bill being heard in the Senate on March 26! This is a serious threat! This Tuesday, March 26, the U.S. Senate Judiciary committee is going to be hearing a Red Flag gun-control/gun confiscation bill put in by Florida Republican Marco Rubio. Yes, the Republican controlled Senate is going to hear a bill that a Republican put in. President Trump said right after the Florida school massacre that he thought Red Flag laws were a good idea. We need to let both of our Senators, Warner and Kaine, hear from us on this AND the President and Vice President, too. I think the President can be swayed if he learns the truth about what Red Flag laws really do and don't do. The Vice President might be able to help, as he as the President's ear. I know, I know - we are not likely to sway either of our Senators. But by reminding them in large numbers that we are here, we don't want any more gun control, and we are watching, that might at least slow down any pro-active gun control coming from them. I'm thinking a VCDL protest at some of their district offices this year might also be in order. Thanks to our sister organization, the Arizona Citizens Defense League, for setting up a special version of their Congressional contact system for us to use. The Board is considering getting our own Congressional contact system. ACTION ITEM 1: Click here to send the pre-written message to Senators Kaine, Warner, President Trump, and Vice President Pence (NOTE: uncheck "Email Opt-in" if you don't want to get future emails from the Arizona Citizens Defense League): https://cqrcengage.com/azcdl/app/write-a-letter?4&engagementId=497934 Let's get a few thousand emails headed their way to get their attention and to educate them as well! We dare not ignore Red Flag bills. ACTION ITEM 2: Let's contact the Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell, so he knows that gun owners do NOT want Red Flag laws. He can help keep the bill from getting a Floor vote if it clears the committee. Here's a link to his contact form on the web: https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact?p=ContactForm For the Topic, select "Congressional Rules and Procedures" Suggested subject: "Please do not let any 'Red Flag' gun bills get a vote on the Senate Floor! Suggested message: Extreme Risk Protection Orders, also known as "Red Flag" laws, such as S. 7, are about gun confiscation, not public safety. Red Flag laws leave the "dangerous" person free to kill himself or others, as the law merely takes away his guns (assuming the police even find all his guns). If a person is too dangerous to have guns, how is anyone safer if he is still walking around with the rest of us? Red Flag laws also violate due process, as the accused doesn't have his day in court for weeks after his property (guns) has already been taken and he then has the almost impossible task of proving he's not dangerous. How do you prove a negative? Protect America's gun owners and the Constitution - don't let S. 7, or any other Red Flag bills, get to the Floor! |
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Arbitrary, without adequate due process or adjudication, equals patently unconstitutional.... remember those sentiments when contacting your legislators. I’ve been contacting mine over this mainly because Cornyn seems to have a boner for this kind of overeach. I contacted little Marco’s office too even though he’s not my rep...
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8 year assault something something
Surely that wasn't just lip service |
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Senate Judiciary Hearing currently going on. Sorry I only have a Facebook link:
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Quoted: Better link with live video now: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/red-flag-laws-examining-guidelines-for-state-action View Quote |
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Guys don't worry, really, I mean that stalwart conservative Rmoney will save us.
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I just found this and used the Arizona form to email Senators from my state. I works better than anything else I've seen. Thanks!
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Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago.
Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham began the hearing by praising Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal for his efforts in trying to pass gun control measures. Connecticut, Blumenthal's home state, is one of the first states to enact a red flag law.
Graham said that red flag laws did not violate the Second Amendment, but allowed family and friends to petition a judge to remove firearms from a person who poses a risk to themselves or others. "Nobody is going to come and take your guns," Graham said, "But at the same time, every right has limits." View Quote |
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Sen Leahy bringing up "Gun Show Loophole", Straw purchase, Mag limits "Giving the deer a chance during hunting season" then attempts to use the same logic to give children a chance.
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Arbitrary, without adequate due process or adjudication, equals patently unconstitutional.... remember those sentiments when contacting your legislators. I’ve been contacting mine over this mainly because Cornyn seems to have a boner for this kind of overeach. I contacted little Marco’s office too even though he’s not my rep... View Quote |
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Arbitrary, without adequate due process or adjudication, equals patently unconstitutional.... remember those sentiments when contacting your legislators. I've been contacting mine over this mainly because Cornyn seems to have a boner for this kind of overeach. I contacted little Marco's office too even though he's not my rep... View Quote we need to take this red flag shit seriously, it won't be used just for guns. |
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Doesn't Cornyn have a primary challenger? we need to take this red flag shit seriously, it won't be used just for guns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Arbitrary, without adequate due process or adjudication, equals patently unconstitutional.... remember those sentiments when contacting your legislators. I've been contacting mine over this mainly because Cornyn seems to have a boner for this kind of overeach. I contacted little Marco's office too even though he's not my rep... we need to take this red flag shit seriously, it won't be used just for guns. |
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Soapbox- fail
Ballot box- fail A phone call shouldn’t be necessary. The Constitution is plain in regards to defense and due process. A phone call to an elected official is only effective if they give a shit what you think. |
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Doesn't Cornyn have a primary challenger? we need to take this red flag shit seriously, it won't be used just for guns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Arbitrary, without adequate due process or adjudication, equals patently unconstitutional.... remember those sentiments when contacting your legislators. I've been contacting mine over this mainly because Cornyn seems to have a boner for this kind of overeach. I contacted little Marco's office too even though he's not my rep... we need to take this red flag shit seriously, it won't be used just for guns. Edit; The lust for power runs deep in the swamp. |
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Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham began the hearing by praising Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal for his efforts in trying to pass gun control measures. Connecticut, Blumenthal's home state, is one of the first states to enact a red flag law.
Graham said that red flag laws did not violate the Second Amendment, but allowed family and friends to petition a judge to remove firearms from a person who poses a risk to themselves or others. "Nobody is going to come and take your guns," Graham said, "But at the same time, every right has limits." |
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When Republican Sen. Ted Cruz began his questioning, a protester stood and yelled for Cruz to "end gun terror."
"Thank you Jacinda Ardern!" The protester, a woman, shouted as she was escorted out of the hearing room, referring to the prime minister of New Zealand who announced a ban on automatic assault weapons after a mass shooting killed 50 people earlier this month. "People are dying and you're killing them!" The protester yelled at Cruz, presumably for his lack of support for banning assault weapons. View Quote |
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Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham began the hearing by praising Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal for his efforts in trying to pass gun control measures. Connecticut, Blumenthal's home state, is one of the first states to enact a red flag law.
Graham said that red flag laws did not violate the Second Amendment, but allowed family and friends to petition a judge to remove firearms from a person who poses a risk to themselves or others. "Nobody is going to come and take your guns," Graham said, "But at the same time, every right has limits." |
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Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. Graham said that red flag laws did not violate the Second Amendment, but allowed family and friends to petition a judge to remove firearms from a person who poses a risk to themselves or others.
"Nobody is going to come and take your guns," Graham said, "But at the same time, every right has limits." |
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Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Lindsey Graham's hearing started a little over an hour ago. Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham began the hearing by praising Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal for his efforts in trying to pass gun control measures. Connecticut, Blumenthal's home state, is one of the first states to enact a red flag law.
Graham said that red flag laws did not violate the Second Amendment, but allowed family and friends to petition a judge to remove firearms from a person who poses a risk to themselves or others. "Nobody is going to come and take your guns," Graham said, "But at the same time, every right has limits." |
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summary of hearing? any action coming out of it? anyone there to defend us and explain how red flag laws violate due process, will be abused???
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I like to take the guns first, worry about due process later.
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I think the President can be swayed if he learns the truth about what Red Flag laws really do and don't do. View Quote |
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All of this is being crammed through while the spotlight is on Trump's victory with the Mueller Report. I haven't heard it mentioned
by any of the main conservative talk show hosts or in the mainstream media. It just goes to show you how insignificant the "conservatives" behind the microphone and on Capitol Hill think the Second Amendment really is. Lip service is all we get. Bastards. |
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Anybody know what the NRA's official written position is on red flag laws?
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Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham concluded the hearing after all senators present had asked questions.
"I'm far more enlightened than I was before," Graham said, adding that he hoped Congress would be able to come to a bipartisan agreement to help implement red flag laws in states. "I really can't see a reason why we can't pursue this at the federal level, to incentivize states," Graham said. View Quote |
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Anybody know what the NRA's official written position is on red flag laws? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Failed To Load Title This from a NRA BOD member Duane Liptak: One last note on red flag laws…If you take a look at the terms the NRA is talking about, it’s adding the poison pills that make it less appealing to Dems—you know, like due process, and penalties for false reports, which they are really trying to get around with these. There’s not a single person in the NRA building that wants red flag laws–because of the risk of abuse. But…saying “not one inch” and sending out emails saying how strong someone’s stance is (that doesn’t actually accomplish anything legislatively) gives the left free reign to build whatever narrative and language they want. With NRA “supporting” a full due process version, it actually drives hardcore Dems sour on an “NRA supported bill”—because they don’t actually want a bill to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill or dangerous people…there are trying to disarm regular Americans! |
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"Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham began the hearing by praising Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal for his efforts in trying to pass gun control measures. Connecticut, Blumenthal's home state, is one of the first states to enact a red flag law."
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"Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham began the hearing by praising Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal for his efforts in trying to pass gun control measures. Connecticut, Blumenthal's home state, is one of the first states to enact a red flag law." View Quote |
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Anybody know what the NRA's official written position is on red flag laws? This from a NRA BOD member Duane Liptak: One last note on red flag lawsIf you take a look at the terms the NRA is talking about, it's adding the poison pills that make it less appealing to Demsyou know, like due process, and penalties for false reports, which they are really trying to get around with these. There's not a single person in the NRA building that wants red flag lawsbecause of the risk of abuse. Butsaying "not one inch" and sending out emails saying how strong someone's stance is (that doesn't actually accomplish anything legislatively) gives the left free reign to build whatever narrative and language they want. With NRA "supporting" a full due process version, it actually drives hardcore Dems sour on an "NRA supported bill"because they don't actually want a bill to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill or dangerous peoplethere are trying to disarm regular Americans! |
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Emails sent, called my Senators etc.
We will see what is gonna happen, I think from my relies my NC senators will support us, but who knows. |
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Anybody know what the NRA's official written position is on red flag laws? This from a NRA BOD member Duane Liptak: One last note on red flag lawsIf you take a look at the terms the NRA is talking about, it's adding the poison pills that make it less appealing to Demsyou know, like due process, and penalties for false reports, which they are really trying to get around with these. There's not a single person in the NRA building that wants red flag lawsbecause of the risk of abuse. Butsaying "not one inch" and sending out emails saying how strong someone's stance is (that doesn't actually accomplish anything legislatively) gives the left free reign to build whatever narrative and language they want. With NRA "supporting" a full due process version, it actually drives hardcore Dems sour on an "NRA supported bill"because they don't actually want a bill to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill or dangerous peoplethere are trying to disarm regular Americans! |
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Anybody know what the NRA's official written position is on red flag laws? This from a NRA BOD member Duane Liptak: One last note on red flag lawsIf you take a look at the terms the NRA is talking about, it's adding the poison pills that make it less appealing to Demsyou know, like due process, and penalties for false reports, which they are really trying to get around with these. There's not a single person in the NRA building that wants red flag lawsbecause of the risk of abuse. Butsaying "not one inch" and sending out emails saying how strong someone's stance is (that doesn't actually accomplish anything legislatively) gives the left free reign to build whatever narrative and language they want. With NRA "supporting" a full due process version, it actually drives hardcore Dems sour on an "NRA supported bill"because they don't actually want a bill to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill or dangerous peoplethere are trying to disarm regular Americans! |
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“The eight-year assault on your Second-amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end.”
- Donald J. Trump |
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Anybody know what the NRA's official written position is on red flag laws? This from a NRA BOD member Duane Liptak: One last note on red flag lawsIf you take a look at the terms the NRA is talking about, it's adding the poison pills that make it less appealing to Demsyou know, like due process, and penalties for false reports, which they are really trying to get around with these. There's not a single person in the NRA building that wants red flag lawsbecause of the risk of abuse. Butsaying "not one inch" and sending out emails saying how strong someone's stance is (that doesn't actually accomplish anything legislatively) gives the left free reign to build whatever narrative and language they want. With NRA "supporting" a full due process version, it actually drives hardcore Dems sour on an "NRA supported bill"because they don't actually want a bill to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill or dangerous peoplethere are trying to disarm regular Americans! NRA: "We support this" ha ha ha, the Dems will never support a bill that we support Dems: "Even the NRA supports this, everyone must support this" ha ha ha, the NRA did what we want them to |
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Nobody NEEDS Ten Amendments in the Bill of Rights.
Six or seven is just fine. WTF happened to this country? |
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The semi-automatic military-style assault Constitution of the United States currently has 27 amendments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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