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5/22/2008 8:31:14 AM EDT
Been doing some reading and figured I'd ask what you think.
What do you think really happened?
5/22/2008 8:32:11 AM EDT
[#1]
5/22/2008 8:32:24 AM EDT
[#2]
5/22/2008 8:32:37 AM EDT
[#3]
Oh no, not another truther
5/22/2008 8:32:46 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Been doing some reading and figured I'd ask what you think.
What do you think really happened?


Why? What do YOU think really happened?

I'll assume you're not buying the official version.



5/22/2008 8:32:59 AM EDT
[#5]



Anyone else want some?
5/22/2008 8:33:29 AM EDT
[#6]
11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
5/22/2008 8:34:30 AM EDT
[#7]
tagscribed
5/22/2008 8:35:01 AM EDT
[#8]

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Damn Dutch...
5/22/2008 8:35:25 AM EDT
[#9]
Be prepared for a ban, three time-outs, moderator editing and a visit from one of the Eds...

What happened?  4 commercial aircraft were hijacked and flown into the WTC, The Pentagon and into the ground near Shanksville PA.

5/22/2008 8:36:43 AM EDT
[#10]
Oh God, the troofers are already here
5/22/2008 8:36:50 AM EDT
[#11]

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.
5/22/2008 8:37:16 AM EDT
[#12]
IBTL
5/22/2008 8:37:25 AM EDT
[#13]

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www.proteinpower.com/drmd_blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/hot-buttered-popcorn.jpg


Anyone else want some?


Got any extra for a noob
5/22/2008 8:38:53 AM EDT
[#14]

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www.proteinpower.com/drmd_blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/hot-buttered-popcorn.jpg


Anyone else want some?


Oh year! That's all we're missing.

On to the show!
5/22/2008 8:39:48 AM EDT
[#15]

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Quoted:
11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


Actually, anyone that thinks once or twice about this, generally concludes that the official story IS the correct story.

If anyone has filled your head with garbage, PLEASE go the popular mechanics webpage where they debunk all of this disgusting bullshit.

www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4220721.html
5/22/2008 8:39:57 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


If you are a dumbass who hates the US and is looking for any reason to shit on this country, it might.
5/22/2008 8:40:31 AM EDT
[#17]
A mix of the first two choices.
5/22/2008 8:41:22 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


On WTC 7.  Both towers were on FIRE with thousands of gallons of jet fuel.  The towers were mostly air and when they collapsed, the air plus the fuel and fire were forced down BY GRAVITY.  The ensuing fireball which was forced down blew outward, damaging buildings now obscured by the dust.  The fireball shattered the glass in WTC 7, setting the interior on fire in multiple locations and causing a near immediate flash fire.  This is what happens when the temperature of flammables exceeds the autoignition point.  For many materials, this is under 500 F.  Even materials that do not support combustion will burn if enough of it is immediately heated to above the autoignition point.
5/22/2008 8:41:36 AM EDT
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5/22/2008 8:43:11 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


You know what is funny about conspiracy theorists? You guys make such a big deal about having "done research" about 9/11, but you guys are too stupid to realize the difference between real research versus  simply reading conspiracy websites that are already predisposed to believing the conspiracy.

Perhaps, you should rely on CREDIBLE sources of information, such as the analysis and testaments of countless structural/civil engineers and fire protection specialists. The info is easily accessible, but I'm sure you guys are too ignorant and uneducated to even take a look.
5/22/2008 8:43:55 AM EDT
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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


All the bullshit conspiracy theorist ideas have been debunked years ago.  I guess you didn't spend that much time reading.  
5/22/2008 8:45:04 AM EDT
[#22]

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...and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane....

Damn it, I TOLD them that putting wings on that ICBM wouldn't fool anybody.....
5/22/2008 8:45:46 AM EDT
[#23]
One of these days I am going to corner a truther.  Won't be pretty.  


Friends help you move.  Great friends help you move bodies
5/22/2008 8:46:12 AM EDT
[#24]
I don't know all the details but I know that it involves Area 54, Panda Bears, George Soros and a bottle of tequila.
5/22/2008 8:47:43 AM EDT
[#25]
No windows on the airplanes?  Well, when the plane is moving 500 MPH relative to the camera, it ia kinda hard to get a sharp picture.


Like I said, one of these days...I'm sure DustyC will help me move bodies...he can probably get me a refrigerated transport too
5/22/2008 8:48:57 AM EDT
[#26]
This is an excellent idea for a topic. It has never been discussed before. I predict this will end well.
5/22/2008 8:49:00 AM EDT
[#27]

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


If you are a dumbass who hates the US and is looking for any reason to shit on this country, it might.
This has nothing to do with hating the US, I am sorry that I question what we are told or see in the media and by are Govt I also think NAFTA, full welfare, abortion and gun control are bad ideas does that mean I hate this country no. You can love your country and disagree with policy.
5/22/2008 8:49:38 AM EDT
[#28]
Here we go again.

Is it Troofer Thursday already?


5/22/2008 8:49:50 AM EDT
[#29]
Aliens.
5/22/2008 8:51:05 AM EDT
[#30]

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I don't know all the details but I know that it involves Area 54, Panda Bears, George Soros and a bottle of tequila.

BS!  They told us it was tequila, but it wasn't.
5/22/2008 8:52:05 AM EDT
[#31]

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


If you are a dumbass who hates the US and is looking for any reason to shit on this country, it might.
This has nothing to do with hating the US, I am sorry that I question what we are told or see in the media and by are Govt I also think NAFTA, full welfare, abortion and gun control are bad ideas does that mean I hate this country no. You can love your country and disagree with policy.


you do realize that countless INDEPENDENT CREDIBLE sources have REPEATEDLY debunked 9/11 conspiracies right? This includes actual research studies done by structural engineers and fire protection specialists. The study Purdue University's Civil Engineering department is one fine example that I seriously suggest you go over.

If you continue to believe illogical conspiracy theories and think you are being "intelligent," well you deserve to be called a dumbass.
5/22/2008 8:52:36 AM EDT
[#32]
Some here get to multiple thousands of posts before they are banned.  I have a vision of the future and it is one where Stallion1 gets banned before he reaches 1000 posts...

5/22/2008 8:53:51 AM EDT
[#33]
fuck people we watched the second plane hit the tower on live TV!
5/22/2008 8:54:06 AM EDT
[#34]

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Quoted:

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


All the bullshit conspiracy theorist ideas have been debunked years ago.  I guess you didn't spend that much time reading.  
No, your absolutely right. I had a Amazon gift card typed in "Unintended Consequences" and a lot of recommendations came up so figured I'd throw the question out.
5/22/2008 8:54:11 AM EDT
[#35]
Sucked, but we were caught off guard. When the second one hit we were ven more suprized. Seeing howeveryone was still triaging below the towers and evacuating. We were not expecting the second tower to get hit one either.

First one gets them there secondary device kills them, Terror 101

We think of the "enemy" as cave dwellers however that is being niave.
The "brains" actually do have the education and financial backing plus the will to do it.

The fight was brought to them now. We need the resolve to finish. We need to make sure that before another "cell" thinks of an attempt there think of the fallout... pun intended.
5/22/2008 8:54:17 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Been doing some reading and figured I'd ask what you think.
What do you think really happened?


You first.
5/22/2008 8:56:10 AM EDT
[#37]
What do I think happened? Don't know don't really care. What I do know is 2,998 innocent people died horrible deaths.
5/22/2008 8:56:41 AM EDT
[#38]
I think the 9/11 commision did a poor job answering all the questions regarding what happened that day, and their lack of a thorough investigation has led to the consipracy theory movement. Much like the JFK assasination, the official story has some missing holes and gives rise to much speculation on what happened. Some of the families who were not satisfied with the government's story have helped start a movement to get the "truth" about what happened that day.

I think it's a delacate subject that cannot be openly discussed in most circles because of the emotion surrounding the subject which is too bad because I think it would help quell the belief in a false flag attack if there was a bit more openness about the subject.

I think there are some poor attitudes also that help foster this type of thinking. For instance, instead of trying to answer questions, most folks will simply resort to name calling and branding the "troofers" as morons, which only serves to unify them and drive a wedge between them and those who believe the official story. I know some extremely smart people who believe 9/11 was an inside job, so to write them off as nut jobs isn't exactly fair or accurate. It's better to argue facts than to call names.
5/22/2008 8:57:28 AM EDT
[#39]
If you have not read the book GHOST WARS then I highly highly recommend it, you will understand the information that was out there and the fact that there is soooo much shit that goes on in this world where we have people in countries you've never even heard of....

5/22/2008 8:58:37 AM EDT
[#40]
It was a masterpiece of gov conspiracy and intelligence work.  Getting everything together, and then mass brainwashing all the witnesses to think they actualy saw real planes flying over their head on some of the busiest and most crowded areas in the nation.  But it was also the most inept work ever done too as some fat slob in his paren'ts basement could figure it all out with just a shitty computer and a few hours of looking at pictures with MS Paint, while eating a couple large pizzas.
5/22/2008 8:59:30 AM EDT
[#41]

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I know some extremely smart people who believe 9/11 was an inside job, ...


Actually, no you don't.

The two are mutually exclusive.
5/22/2008 9:00:40 AM EDT
[#42]

IBTL and IBTB.
5/22/2008 9:02:48 AM EDT
[#43]

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fuck people we watched the second plane hit the tower on live TV!


Oh no you didn't...That was a bomb...I mean what you saw wasn't what you really saw...I mean we saw a plane--but that is not for real...

I mean the media made the whole thing up...Oh and lets not forget Bush..I mean he did the whole thing...

/end sarcasm...


5/22/2008 9:08:48 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
I think the 9/11 commision did a poor job answering all the questions regarding what happened that day, and their lack of a thorough investigation has led to the consipracy theory movement. Much like the JFK assasination, the official story has some missing holes and gives rise to much speculation on what happened. Some of the families who were not satisfied with the government's story have helped start a movement to get the "truth" about what happened that day.

I think it's a delacate subject that cannot be openly discussed in most circles because of the emotion surrounding the subject which is too bad because I think it would help quell the belief in a false flag attack if there was a bit more openness about the subject.

I think there are some poor attitudes also that help foster this type of thinking. For instance, instead of trying to answer questions, most folks will simply resort to name calling and branding the "troofers" as morons, which only serves to unify them and drive a wedge between them and those who believe the official story. I know some extremely smart people who believe 9/11 was an inside job, so to write them off as nut jobs isn't exactly fair or accurate. It's better to argue facts than to call names.


It's perfectly OK to call Truthers morons because Truthers are morons.

And the people that you know that believe that 9/11 was an inside job are not nearly as smart as you think they are.
5/22/2008 9:09:17 AM EDT
[#45]
Maddox explains it very well here:

www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

his best quote about the "Loose Change" video:  "Watching this video is like being bukakked with stupid."

5/22/2008 9:09:31 AM EDT
[#46]

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


If you are a dumbass who hates the US and is looking for any reason to shit on this country, it might.
This has nothing to do with hating the US, I am sorry that I question what we are told or see in the media and by are Govt I also think NAFTA, full welfare, abortion and gun control are bad ideas does that mean I hate this country no. You can love your country and disagree with policy.


you do realize that countless INDEPENDENT CREDIBLE sources have REPEATEDLY debunked 9/11 conspiracies right? This includes actual research studies done by structural engineers and fire protection specialists. The study Purdue University's Civil Engineering department is one fine example that I seriously suggest you go over.

If you continue to believe illogical conspiracy theories and think you are being "intelligent," well you deserve to be called a dumbass.
news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007a/070612HoffmannWTC.html
Aren't these the same computer models that told scientist in the 70's that we were heading for an ice age, then told us in the early 90's that the large portions of the earth's land mass would be covered in water, oh yeah and then told us that 2006-2007 would see a record number of hurricanes, and also told us the earth is warming but are now saying we are going into another cooling phase. I'm just saying "believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" Benjamin Franklin  
5/22/2008 9:10:23 AM EDT
[#47]

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Maddox explains it very well here:

www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons



Maddox always gets right to the heart of an issue. As usual, he is spot on.
5/22/2008 9:15:52 AM EDT
[#48]

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


If you are a dumbass who hates the US and is looking for any reason to shit on this country, it might.
This has nothing to do with hating the US, I am sorry that I question what we are told or see in the media and by are Govt I also think NAFTA, full welfare, abortion and gun control are bad ideas does that mean I hate this country no. You can love your country and disagree with policy.


you do realize that countless INDEPENDENT CREDIBLE sources have REPEATEDLY debunked 9/11 conspiracies right? This includes actual research studies done by structural engineers and fire protection specialists. The study Purdue University's Civil Engineering department is one fine example that I seriously suggest you go over.

If you continue to believe illogical conspiracy theories and think you are being "intelligent," well you deserve to be called a dumbass.
news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007a/070612HoffmannWTC.html
Aren't these the same computer models that told scientist in the 70's that we were heading for an ice age, then told us in the early 90's that the large portions of the earth's land mass would be covered in water, oh yeah and then told us that 2006-2007 would see a record number of hurricanes, and also told us the earth is warming but are now saying we are going into another cooling phase. I'm just saying "believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" Benjamin Franklin  


That is a shitbag analogy.  Why?  Because the evidence of what happened on 0-11 cannot point to anything else BUT what happened.

Climate change?  There is NO EVIDENCE.

5/22/2008 9:18:32 AM EDT
[#49]

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?


19 hijackers, not 11. I know this may be splitting hairs but the plane in Pa was purposely put down by the hijackers as the passengers were attempting to get into the cockpit.




5/22/2008 9:20:55 AM EDT
[#50]

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11 Arab terrorists (mostly Saudis) flew three hijacked jetliners into some of the most important buildings in the country, killing thousands. A fourth hijacked jetliner was forced into the ground by heroic passengers.

What do YOU think happened?
This is exactly what I think I know. But then you read and see interviews with the fireman about Bld 7(not to mention who had offices there) and that people reported seeing no windows on the plane, and the huge insurance policy taken out 6 months before....etc. Makes you think twice.


If you are a dumbass who hates the US and is looking for any reason to shit on this country, it might.
This has nothing to do with hating the US, I am sorry that I question what we are told or see in the media and by are Govt I also think NAFTA, full welfare, abortion and gun control are bad ideas does that mean I hate this country no. You can love your country and disagree with policy.


you do realize that countless INDEPENDENT CREDIBLE sources have REPEATEDLY debunked 9/11 conspiracies right? This includes actual research studies done by structural engineers and fire protection specialists. The study Purdue University's Civil Engineering department is one fine example that I seriously suggest you go over.

If you continue to believe illogical conspiracy theories and think you are being "intelligent," well you deserve to be called a dumbass.
news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007a/070612HoffmannWTC.html
Aren't these the same computer models that told scientist in the 70's that we were heading for an ice age, then told us in the early 90's that the large portions of the earth's land mass would be covered in water, oh yeah and then told us that 2006-2007 would see a record number of hurricanes, and also told us the earth is warming but are now saying we are going into another cooling phase. I'm just saying "believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" Benjamin Franklin  


Yea, the computer models these civil engineers are using to show how the WTC fell are the same ones that they use to prove global warming?! WTF are you babbling about?

now do you understand why people call you conspiracy theorists dumbasses? You people string together completely irrelevant concepts together in a pitiful attempt to debunk basic fundamentals of physics.
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