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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:29:41 PM EST
Thanks again to LS1POWERED for the ammo, this stuff digs in deep and keeps going. Wish I had two gel blocks.


Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:14:56 PM EST
Thanks for running the test! I am a bit surprised by the velocity being a 5.56 spec load, thought it would have been higher. even with the Lower velocity the penetration was very impressive, would make an excellent Deer and hog hunting round.

Do you have any rounds left? I was curious how fast they would be out of your SBR.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:42:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LS1POWERED:
Thanks for running the test! I am a bit surprised by the velocity being a 5.56 spec load, thought it would have been higher. even with the Lower velocity the penetration was very impressive, would make an excellent Deer and hog hunting round.

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Do you have any rounds left? I was curious how fast they would be out of your SBR.
Yes I do have some. I'll chrono them out of the 9"
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:47:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Do you have any rounds left? I was curious how fast they would be out of your SBR.

Yes I do have some. I'll chrono them out of the 9"
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Originally Posted By LS1POWERED:
Thanks for running the test! I am a bit surprised by the velocity being a 5.56 spec load, thought it would have been higher. even with the Lower velocity the penetration was very impressive, would make an excellent Deer and hog hunting round.
Do you have any rounds left? I was curious how fast they would be out of your SBR.

Yes I do have some. I'll chrono them out of the 9"


I would appreciate it, as well. I'm debating between 50gr TSX and 70gr TSX to tailor a load for my SBR.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 8:34:31 PM EST
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I would appreciate it, as well. I'm debating between 50gr TSX and 70gr TSX to tailor a load for my SBR.
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Origina,lly Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Originally Posted By LS1POWERED:
Thanks for running the test! I am a bit surprised by the velocity being a 5.56 spec load, thought it would have been higher. even with the Lower velocity the penetration was very impressive, would make an excellent Deer and hog hunting round.
Do you have any rounds left? I was curious how fast they would be out of your SBR.

Yes I do have some. I'll chrono them out of the 9"


I would appreciate it, as well. I'm debating between 50gr TSX and 70gr TSX to tailor a load for my SBR.

from what I have read the heavier loads are better for shorter Barrels, will be interesting to see.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 8:41:29 PM EST
Good vid, thanks.
Have you tried the Federal Fusion?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 8:44:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LS1POWERED:

from what I have read the heavier loads are better for shorter Barrels, will be interesting to see.
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Origina,lly Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Originally Posted By LS1POWERED:
Thanks for running the test! I am a bit surprised by the velocity being a 5.56 spec load, thought it would have been higher. even with the Lower velocity the penetration was very impressive, would make an excellent Deer and hog hunting round.
Do you have any rounds left? I was curious how fast they would be out of your SBR.

Yes I do have some. I'll chrono them out of the 9"


I would appreciate it, as well. I'm debating between 50gr TSX and 70gr TSX to tailor a load for my SBR.

from what I have read the heavier loads are better for shorter Barrels, will be interesting to see.


Here too.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 10:37:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GO4SHOOT:
Good vid, thanks.
Have you tried the Federal Fusion?
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Yes I have, if you browse my channel that video is pretty recent.

I plan to repeat that test out of the 9" barrel here soon.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 11:09:12 PM EST
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Yes I have, if you browse my channel that video is pretty recent.

I plan to repeat that test out of the 9" barrel here soon.
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Originally Posted By GO4SHOOT:
Good vid, thanks.
Have you tried the Federal Fusion?
Yes I have, if you browse my channel that video is pretty recent.

I plan to repeat that test out of the 9" barrel here soon.


That would be great!
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 12:17:11 AM EST
Man, you kinda wasted the gel (can you melt that particular gel back down?), but it was a commendable effort. Good video , would love to see you do some testing of modern hollow points. I was really interested in seeing the bullet, or fragments. Always use 2 blocks for .223 rounds. It's still hard to catch rifle rounds in ballistics gel.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 12:55:02 AM EST
Yes! Please test out of an SBR!

This is my deer load but have yet to shoot an animal. I am shooting out of a 16" now but would love to go down to my 11.5 if I knew I could get reliable expansion.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 1:29:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MajorJustice:
Man, you kinda wasted the gel (can you melt that particular gel back down?), but it was a commendable effort. Good video , would love to see you do some testing of modern hollow points. I was really interested in seeing the bullet, or fragments. Always use 2 blocks for .223 rounds. It's still hard to catch rifle rounds in ballistics gel.
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Yes you can melt this synthetic gel down and reuse it.

Do you mean modern hollow point .223, or handgun rounds? I have several videos with various handgun rounds.

Always use 2 blocks? No problem! Please click here http://store.clearballistics.com/10-Percent-Ballistic-Gelatin-FBI-Block-p/608729261421.htm and buy me a second block. I will PM you my address to send it to


Of course I am being facetious, but in reality nobody cares about the penetration after 16". I never get requests or even see any data to compare to a round that penetrated 21" or something, by the time it's more than 16" its's "enough".

You are correct it is hard to catch rifle rounds in ballistics gel, especially 5.56/.223. As a matter of fact there are very few of these that even exit the back end of the block, most yaw and leave the sides or top/bottom, in which case a second block wouldn't matter anyway. If that bullet fragmented there would be pieces of it left behind in the gel, it stayed together IMO.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 1:35:02 AM EST
What I've heard from end users real world is that it folds dudes over from 10" guns. Pretty brutal load.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 1:38:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Wolverine1856:
Yes! Please test out of an SBR!

This is my deer load but have yet to shoot an animal. I am shooting out of a 16" now but would love to go down to my 11.5 if I knew I could get reliable expansion.
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Expansion will be hard for me to measure for the reasons listed in the previous post. Even though I didn't put it in the video I did move the block out to 25 yards and put a Level II armor panel behind it to try and catch the bullet, this is the moment of impact:



I also captured that little ignition that happens in this synthetic gel:


But I was unable to catch or find the bullet. I could try a water jug or something but I didn't want to assist expansion or cause deformation with a different type of media for the bullet to pass through. Maybe I will get lucky and catch one out of the short barrel.
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