Posted: 8/20/2007 4:27:40 PM EDT
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Seems that the VA Tech shootings have caused a change to the 4473. The new one says. 11 f. Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective( which includes a determination by a court,board,commission,or other lawful authority that you are a danger to yourself or to others or are incompetent to manage your own affairs)OR have you ever been committed to a mental instituation (see important note 4 and definitions 5 and 6) |
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5. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective (a) A determination by a court,board,commission, or other lawful authority that a person as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency,condition,or disease(1) Is a danger to himself or to others:or (2) Lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. (b) This term shall include - (1) A finding of insanity by a court ina criminal case;and(2)Those incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility pursuant to articles 50a and 72b of the UCMJ 10 USC850a,876b 6. Committed to a mental institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for reasons such as fo drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution |
| So are they going to cross check this question against a database or rely on the honesty of the purchaser? If not, then the ATF believes that the VT douchebag (or any future douchebags) would've been foiled because they can't lie on a form before committing murder. |
The ATF also believes the VT douchebag wouldn't ever go purchase a firearm off the streets, either, because it's illegal. |
Like it's going to matter what some nutjob answers on a 4473 form.......... Wanna prevent those kind of shootings?.........CARRY A WEAPON AT ALL TIMES!!!!! But the national overlords won't allow it!!!!!!!!!!  One or two of US in that room and that creep was D-E-A-D. A new question on a new form will help this much..........."0".........but the bureaucrats WILL sleep better tonight...... 
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"The ATF also believes the VT douchebag wouldn't ever go purchase a firearm off the streets, either, because it's illegal." Not in Virginia. You can buy and sell to other Virginia residents as long as they are not prohibited persons and over 18 years old. No 4473, no NICS check, just cash and carry. |
There was a thread a couple of months ago when the changes were first announced where someone had a scanned version of the new form. Question 12 now says: if you answered "yes" to question 11.l, do you fall within any of the exceptions set forth in Important Notice 4, Exception 2? (e.g. valid state hunting license ). ( if "yes", the licensee must complete question 20c ). |