Posted: 11/20/2009 10:52:57 AM EDT
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Amendment 28:
Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson "...Let it roll..." |
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Quoted: I'd be fine with that, but change "senators and representatives" to "any person employed by or acting for the government". And, make it retroactive so it repeals any laws that create incongruity.Amendment 28: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson "...Let it roll..." Not only would they have to have the same health care, etc., but we would get tax free unregulated machineguns. |
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I'd be fine with that, but change "senators and representatives" to "any person employed by or acting for the government". And, make it retroactive so it repeals any laws that create incongruity.
Amendment 28: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson "...Let it roll..." Not only would they have to have the same health care, etc., but we would get tax free unregulated machineguns. I can haz a happy switch??? |
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I'd be fine with that, but change "senators and representatives" to "any person employed by or acting for the government". And, make it retroactive so it repeals any laws that create incongruity.
Amendment 28: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson "...Let it roll..." Not only would they have to have the same health care, etc., but we would get tax free unregulated machineguns. My apologies for the dupe. Excellent suggestion! |
| thats all wonderful........... except the same idiots were trying to pass amendments against............ are the same idiots that will have to approve it........ i dont see congress giving up any power, they try to acquire more almost daily........ its all doomed from the get go....... unless we can do like california, and have the country vote on it, and bypass congress........... were fooked. |
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I think a 2 term limit would work better. There are term limits. It's called the ballot box. We get what we deserve when we vote these fuckers in. We should never have gone to the direct election of senators. I agree with this. I would also support an amendment to allow state legislatures to pick US senators again. And while were wishing here, I would also support an amendment removing the federal governments powers to tax us at all. |
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I think a 2 term limit would work better. There are term limits. It's called the ballot box. We get what we deserve when we vote these fuckers in. We should never have gone to the direct election of senators. the ballot box is great............ except it seems everyone that does get replaced, tends to be replaced by someone just as bad......unless we replace them all at once with a new batch, its not gonna matter much..........probably gonna have to hit the " reset" button eventually ........... its like trying to reform the military, by recruiting new soldiers. sure that new private has some cool new ideas, but he cant do it with his current power level/experience, and those over him will not allow it to be done either......... by the time he gets brow beat by others with more time/service, they tend to end up like all the other old timers, when they get their time in........... the only thing that might save us, is for americans to litterly march into congress and practically riot everytime they try to pass some other stupid law...show them the light etc. |
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I think a 2 term limit would work better. There are term limits. It's called the ballot box. We get what we deserve when we vote these fuckers in. We should never have gone to the direct election of senators. the ballot box is great............ except it seems everyone that does get replaced, tends to be replaced by someone just as bad......unless we replace them all at once with a new batch, its not gonna matter much..........probably gonna have to hit the " reset" button eventually ........... its like trying to reform the military, by recruiting new soldiers. sure that new private has some cool new ideas, but by the time he gets brow beat by others with more time/service, they tend to end up like all the old timers... And while the ballot box is great it is controlled by the congress. They get to draw lines for our voting districts. They use this to their favor (which ever party is in power). They draw the lines to assure continued victory. Our votes count, but truthfully we should have smaller districts and more representatives in the house. As our population grows so should our representation. |
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I'd rather have a balanced budget amendment. _MaH How about just a law that says any balance outstanding in the federal budget is initially made up by confiscating the salaries of all the Senators and Representatives. If that is not enough, then conficate their personal property to sell at public auction. |
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I'd rather have a balanced budget amendment. _MaH How about just a law that says any balance outstanding in the federal budget is initially made up by confiscating the salaries of all the Senators and Representatives. If that is not enough, then conficate their personal property to sell at public auction. if you could pass that......... they would never offer up another law, and would probably cut current shit left and right, by 100% agreement. plus they would never travel again either |
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I think a 2 term limit would work better. That would be the best way to help but we all know that WILL NEVER HAPPEN. These bastards out in Washington feel they are the elite ruling class and we would be lost without them. I would like them all to come out for a range day, we always need people to hold targets...... |
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I'd be fine with that, but change "senators and representatives" to "any person employed by or acting for the government". And, make it retroactive so it repeals any laws that create incongruity.
Amendment 28: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson "...Let it roll..." Not only would they have to have the same health care, etc., but we would get tax free unregulated machineguns. That would screw a lot of the Soliders. |
  Why's the dupage getting all the views and comments while MY ORIGINAL is dying with 2 comments... BASTARDS!!! |
| I'd like it to include a repeal of the 17th amendment also. The Senators are supposed to be elected by your statehouse to represent the state, to ensure the federal gov't doesn't usurp state rights. Plus, your state reps that send a senator to D.C. are easier to hold accountable if they screw it up. |
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I'd like it to include a repeal of the 17th amendment also. The Senators are supposed to be elected by your statehouse to represent the state, to ensure the federal gov't doesn't usurp state rights. Plus, your state reps that send a senator to D.C. are easier to hold accountable if they screw it up. You would need to amend the constitution to do it. I would like to include language in there to make it so that state legislators elect our senators, but that the state governors cal recall them at any time. This would make governorships much stronger and give states a much larger voice in the federal government. |
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Quoted: Why's the dupage getting all the views and comments while MY ORIGINAL is dying with 2 comments... BASTARDS!!!  |
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How about All laws must be written in plain easily comprehended English The right to refuse service for individuals and businesses A repeal of the income tax and outlawing of property taxes. 2 term limits on all elected officials We seem to have trouble with laws written in plain old easily comprehended English and laws written in lawyer speak. Just because you have a law written in understandable English doesn't mean everyone will agree with it or abide by it. Look at the second amendment, it's plain and easy to understand, yet we keep having to take it to court. As long as the federal government has dominion over our everyday lives we will have trouble with their laws no matter how they are written. The right to refuse service to individuals and business. Are you talking about the government refusing to pay welfare here? I agree with that. We should not make it easy to be a freeloader. I agree with repealing the income tax. Repealing property taxes is a state issue. Again, as long as they get to draw the boundaries of our voting districts, term limits don't matter. They will make it so democrats or republicans always get elected. It will be a new name, but the same old bullshit. |
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Quoted: How about 1) All laws must be written in plain easily comprehended English 2) The right to refuse service for individuals and businesses 3) A repeal of the income tax and outlawing of property taxes. 4) 2 term limits on all elected officials 1 - good idea 2 - doesn't this already exist? 3 - how, pray tell, would you fund the government? I can appreciate a desire for smaller government and less spending but if you take away income tax you effectively neuter the .fed and if you abolish property tax you crush municipal governments and school districts at the same time. How would you fund these things? 4 - bad idea |
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I'd be fine with that, but change "senators and representatives" to "any person employed by or acting for the government". And, make it retroactive so it repeals any laws that create incongruity.
Amendment 28: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson "...Let it roll..." Not only would they have to have the same health care, etc., but we would get tax free unregulated machineguns. agree. |
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Amendment 28: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson "...Let it roll..." I can go for that. Add nothing, keep it simple. |
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How about 1) All laws must be written in plain easily comprehended English 2) The right to refuse service for individuals and businesses 3) A repeal of the income tax and outlawing of property taxes. 4) 2 term limits on all elected officials 1 - good idea 2 - doesn't this already exist? 3 - how, pray tell, would you fund the government? I can appreciate a desire for smaller government and less spending but if you take away income tax you effectively neuter the .fed and if you abolish property tax you crush municipal governments and school districts at the same time. How would you fund these things? 4 - bad idea Neutering the fed and crushing public schools would be a very good thing. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think a 2 term limit would work better. There are term limits. It's called the ballot box. We get what we deserve when we vote these fuckers in. We should never have gone to the direct election of senators. I agree with this. I would also support an amendment to allow state legislatures to pick US senators again. And while were wishing here, I would also support an amendment removing the federal governments powers to tax us at all. In other words, you would support the destruction of the USA. If the US can't fund it's operations, the country falls... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about 1) All laws must be written in plain easily comprehended English 2) The right to refuse service for individuals and businesses 3) A repeal of the income tax and outlawing of property taxes. 4) 2 term limits on all elected officials 1 - good idea 2 - doesn't this already exist? 3 - how, pray tell, would you fund the government? I can appreciate a desire for smaller government and less spending but if you take away income tax you effectively neuter the .fed and if you abolish property tax you crush municipal governments and school districts at the same time. How would you fund these things? 4 - bad idea Neutering the fed and crushing public schools would be a very good thing. If you want the US to become a 3rd world nation.... |
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1) outlawing of gerrymandering (roman style grid districts with a move to close the rep to citizen ratio to 1:30000) 2) fair tax 3) repeal of 17th amendment 4) 2 term limit for every elected leader of the federal govt 5) removal of all Unconstitutional agencies and depts and leaving them to the states 6) the Dave_A limitation amendment (lol just fucking wth you dave) 7) adding USAF and USMC to the mandatory military upkeep 8) a 14th amendment clarification 9) outlawing by amendment any prejudicial law (aka affirmative action and "hate crime" laws) 10) cutting of welfare "those in poverty must be made to be uncomfortable wth that poverty" 11) privatization and opt out policies added to SS, Medicare, and Medicade 12) shut down of all nonessential fed govt until the budget is balanced 13) change budget procurement methods to "you save it, you keep it". money saved from year to year would be rolled over. 14) force military to fix its procurment processes. if they wnt new toys, they ether fix the system or they dont get the money theyll waste. 15) permanent national guard stations on the border and a raise in man power to at least 1 per mile of actual guards. logistics will not figure into this. the USAF will be the eyes from the sky. |
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Quoted: 1) outlawing of gerrymandering (roman style grid districts with a move to close the rep to citizen ratio to 1:30000) 2) fair tax 3) repeal of 17th amendment 4) 2 term limit for every elected leader of the federal govt 5) removal of all Unconstitutional agencies and depts and leaving them to the states 6) the Dave_A limitation amendment (lol just fucking wth you dave) 7) adding USAF and USMC to the mandatory military upkeep 8) a 14th amendment clarification 9) outlawing by amendment any prejudicial law (aka affirmative action and "hate crime" laws) 10) cutting of welfare "those in poverty must be made to be uncomfortable wth that poverty" 11) privatization and opt out policies added to SS, Medicare, and Medicade 12) shut down of all nonessential fed govt until the budget is balanced 13) change budget procurement methods to "you save it, you keep it". money saved from year to year would be rolled over. 14) force military to fix its procurment processes. if they wnt new toys, they ether fix the system or they dont get the money theyll waste. 15) permanent national guard stations on the border and a raise in man power to at least 1 per mile of actual guards. logistics will not figure into this. the USAF will be the eyes from the sky.  |
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how about we replace them all with a "magic 8 ball", from walmart, and just ask it questions...... probably be a lot cheaper..probably get better results.... http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp58/buck19delta/magic8ball.jpg 
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I think a 2 term limit would work better. There are term limits. It's called the ballot box. We get what we deserve when we vote these fuckers in. We should never have gone to the direct election of senators. I agree with this. I would also support an amendment to allow state legislatures to pick US senators again. And while were wishing here, I would also support an amendment removing the federal governments powers to tax us at all. In other words, you would support the destruction of the USA. If the US can't fund it's operations, the country falls... I want the states to tax us, then let the states pay the federal government. All the money that the fed collect comes from us. I just want to change how it is collected. The federal government would still get money for it's military, etc. It just wouldn't have the power to use our federal funds against us anymore. As far as removing the commerce clause goes, I would be in favor of that, or strictly defining what exactly interstate commerce is. Half of all the laws they pass use the interstate commerce clause as an excuse, and most run afoul of the constitution. If you remove the clause, then the laws previously passed based on it can be overturned, thus making people more free. |
