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8/6/2026 10:40:29 AM EDT
[#1]
8.00 / 996.00

4 miles at threshold at the local track which was more difficult than usual.  Sticky but overcast.  Timing worked out great as the high school cross country kids were just wrapping up.  The coach told me the kids come back to school next week.
8/6/2026 10:40:29 AM EDT
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8/6/2026 2:17:35 PM EDT
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3.25 / 764.6

New shoes, Asics Blazeblast.

Neat.
8/6/2026 11:46:03 PM EDT
[#4]
10/1885.91
8/7/2026 1:18:20 PM EDT
[#5]
Typically Friday is a rest day for me, but I opted to run on a new greenway.  Was hot, hilly, and traveled along a busy road.  Despite all of this.

4.00 / 1000.00
8/7/2026 1:23:20 PM EDT
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Typically Friday is a rest day for me, but I opted to run on a new greenway.  Was hot, hilly, and traveled along a busy road.  Despite all of this.

4.00 / 1000.00
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8/7/2026 1:25:43 PM EDT
[#7]
11.35 / 2,040

Made a bit of a mental goof. Coach gave me a 2x 3 mile at marathon effort workout, I misremembered it as 3x 2mi at marathon effort. Same amount of work, just a harder way of getting there than I had envisioned.
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8/7/2026 2:12:28 PM EDT
[#8]
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Typically Friday is a rest day for me, but I opted to run on a new greenway.  Was hot, hilly, and traveled along a busy road.  Despite all of this.

4.00 / 1000.00
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8/8/2026 4:02:40 AM EDT
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Typically Friday is a rest day for me, but I opted to run on a new greenway.  Was hot, hilly, and traveled along a busy road.  Despite all of this.

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Hell yeah brother. Get another K before the new year!
In the Marines I got PT Thrashed on Christmas by our Drill Instructor because he blamed the death of Christ on recruits.
-USAWTF
8/8/2026 11:23:05 AM EDT
[#10]
16 / 2,056

Got an extra mile over what the plan called for. Just because. Much "cooler" (~73° to start) than it has been lately thanks to some thunderstorms yesterday.
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8/8/2026 12:25:35 PM EDT
[#11]
10/1895.91
8/8/2026 1:19:03 PM EDT
[#12]
6.02 / 1006.02

Planned intervals at the track but the heat beat me down.  Then the watch decided to reboot after the 7th interval.  I took that as a sign and just did a quick cooldown after it came back on line.
8/9/2026 10:20:02 AM EDT
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8/9/2026 2:20:47 PM EDT
[#14]
8.0 / 1014.0
8/10/2026 12:33:59 PM EDT
[#15]
15+3/1918.91

15 on the treadmill last night.  If I find the right movie or doc I can run forever on the tread. Now the Pelaton I absolutely dread.

3 this morning before kids first day of school.

8/10/2026 1:54:05 PM EDT
[#16]
10.65 + 5.65 / 2,077

5x 2k in the morning (jog recovery) and 12x 400m (walk recovery) on lunch, all "on" segments at half marathon effort.

School starts back on Thursday, but already morning traffic is bad enough (and it's dark enough now) that I need to find and break out my light-up vest for these "downtown" workouts in the mornings.
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8/10/2026 3:27:12 PM EDT
[#17]
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8/10/2026 3:38:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Trod7308:
15+3/1918.91

15 on the treadmill last night.  If I find the right movie or doc I can run forever on the tread. Now the Pelaton I absolutely dread.

3 this morning before kids first day of school.

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I only use my Peloton for recovery.  I find that it works great for my legs after squats or before long runs.

Not gonna lie, i hate the exercise bike, though.  Very boring compared to the treadmill.  So, I bought the Metaquest VR headset thing and use the exercise apps. Im sure i look like a dork riding the bike, but i dont care.  It makes a quick 30 minute ride enjoyable enough that i dont mind it anymore.  Its also good for movies, music videos, etc...  Basically anything other than stairing at the wall, or using the factory program where some goofball in spandex tells me to pedal faster.
8/11/2026 7:54:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TurkeyLeg:
I only use my Peloton for recovery.  I find that it works great for my legs after squats or before long runs.

Not gonna lie, i hate the exercise bike, though.  Very boring compared to the treadmill.  So, I bought the Metaquest VR headset thing and use the exercise apps. Im sure i look like a dork riding the bike, but i dont care.  It makes a quick 30 minute ride enjoyable enough that i dont mind it anymore.  Its also good for movies, music videos, etc...  Basically anything other than stairing at the wall, or using the factory program where some goofball in spandex tells me to pedal faster.
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WOW!  I’m behind the times. I didn’t even know that was a thing to wear VR and exercise. Kudos to you. I’m all for trying anything to get in auto pilot tho and get some exercise in.


8/11/2026 7:58:05 AM EDT
[#20]
Bus drop off was 45 minutes late. Ran up and down my drive and back and forth on the hard road in front of my house, waiting and watching the app showing the geo location of said late bus.  The location was inaccurate and kept cutting in and out so I couldn’t go too far from home.

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8/11/2026 11:58:57 AM EDT
[#21]
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8/11/2026 12:13:43 PM EDT
[#22]
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WOW!  I'm behind the times. I didn't even know that was a thing to wear VR and exercise. Kudos to you. I'm all for trying anything to get in auto pilot tho and get some exercise in.


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It can be reasonably enjoyable.  I have a cadence sensor (Wahoo, maybe?) thats strapped to the crank on the bike and it bluetooths in to the goggles to speed up and slow down, give you an RPM and "speed" estimate, based on whatever imaginary metric they came up with to tell you that. The app I use has me riding around in jungles, the wild west, the artic, outer space, just complete nonsense thats visually interesting and distracting. I equate it to going on a run in a new, interesting park when you feel like trash.  It helps moderate the suck because the new experience is eating up a little bit of your attention span that would otherwise fixate on your soreness or fatigue.

So its not bad and it makes the time go by very quickly. But again, i only do easy rides.  80 rpm, 20-40 percent load on the bike knob, thats it.  If youre really hammering it, the goggles might be weird, but im just trying to unf*ck my legs on rest or recovery days, so its fine for me.  Id recomend the goggles for anyone who uses the bike like I do.  

To me, the treadmill is an ultra-critical part of my running plan, the bike is an accessory.  If you were a cyclist, then maybe it would be the opposite case and youd take the Peloton more seriously for training.
8/11/2026 7:47:37 PM EDT
[#23]
7.0 / 1021.0

Meetings from first thing in the morning until late afternoon.  Was barely able to squeeze in treadmill time.
8/12/2026 9:37:51 AM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By TurkeyLeg:
It can be reasonably enjoyable.  I have a cadence sensor (Wahoo, maybe?) thats strapped to the crank on the bike and it bluetooths in to the goggles to speed up and slow down, give you an RPM and "speed" estimate, based on whatever imaginary metric they came up with to tell you that. The app I use has me riding around in jungles, the wild west, the artic, outer space, just complete nonsense thats visually interesting and distracting. I equate it to going on a run in a new, interesting park when you feel like trash.  It helps moderate the suck because the new experience is eating up a little bit of your attention span that would otherwise fixate on your soreness or fatigue.

So its not bad and it makes the time go by very quickly. But again, i only do easy rides.  80 rpm, 20-40 percent load on the bike knob, thats it.  If youre really hammering it, the goggles might be weird, but im just trying to unf*ck my legs on rest or recovery days, so its fine for me.  Id recomend the goggles for anyone who uses the bike like I do.  

To me, the treadmill is an ultra-critical part of my running plan, the bike is an accessory.  If you were a cyclist, then maybe it would be the opposite case and youd take the Peloton more seriously for training.
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I have only used the free version of pelaton which visually only provides the basic stroll through what every city/location I pick.  The speed of the bike in the visual does NOT change with my speed.  Which is lame.

8/12/2026 10:54:57 AM EDT
[#25]
12.35 / 2,096

Big one this morning. 10x 1,000m at 3k-5k effort with 2 minute walk between.
Should get another 4 later. Looking forward to trying out some new shoes (ASICS Novablast 5).
Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
8/12/2026 2:24:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Ive got a question thats been on my mind lately. Let me know if this is a bad spot for it.  I can start another thread.  This is about training block long run pacing.  

My big goal right now is to run my first full marathon in March.  I ran my first race, a half, this last March and did it in 1hr 50 mins -- 8:24 / mile.  Shortly after, my performance got better until the heat kicked in.  Ive set my marathon goal time very fast on purpose - 3 hrs 45 minutes.  Im not the type to be happy with the usual advice ("Its your first marathon, just concentrate on finishing and enjoy it").  I have to have something specific to work and train for, otherwise I wont be invested.  I may (probably will) fail to hit goal, but it wont be from a lack of trying.

Anywho, this summer has beat my ass and my winter long run pace which was in the mid to high 8's for a typical 10 mile run is very often dragged down to 9:45-10:15 now that its hot.  I can come out of the gates running in the high sevens and be totally worn out before mile 5 is done. I just cant do what i did in May, which was a 10 miler PR with 7:49 splits.  Ive come to terms with it and im starting to enjoy the slower runs, but its not really by choice.  Id rather be running faster, but this has shown me that easy pace can buy me an extra 5 miles a week over my usual 25 with no additional fatigue, even in the heat. Since marathon success has much more to do with endurance and prep than raw speed, im formulating a plan in my head already, 3 months before mileage really ramps up.

So, for those of you who run marathons, does a 10 minute mile pace for a "normal" 18 or 20 mile run in the training block sound excessively slow for a goal pace around 8:30?  Not talking about progression runs or the later runs with 6 or 8 miles at MP, just my day-in and day-out mileage builders? If i lay down 50 miles a week at 10 minute pacing, plus another 10 or so at MP or better, am I setting myself up for failure?
8/12/2026 4:33:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TurkeyLeg:
Ive got a question thats been on my mind lately. Let me know if this is a bad spot for it.  I can start another thread.  This is about training block long run pacing.  

My big goal right now is to run my first full marathon in March.  I ran my first race, a half, this last March and did it in 1hr 50 mins -- 8:24 / mile.  Shortly after, my performance got better until the heat kicked in.  Ive set my marathon goal time very fast on purpose - 3 hrs 45 minutes. Given that you're relatively new and have that recent 1:50 half, I don't think this is super-fast (VDOT equivalent for your HM time is 3:47).  Im not the type to be happy with the usual advice ("Its your first marathon, just concentrate on finishing and enjoy it"). That's standard advice because it holds true so frequently. A full marathon is much more than two half marathons back-to-back. I have to have something specific to work and train for, otherwise I wont be invested.  I may (probably will) It's good that the possibility is already in your head. I did rather well in my first marathon and ran 3:35 on a very loose 3:30 goal. fail to hit goal, but it wont be from a lack of trying.

Anywho, this summer has beat my ass and my winter long run pace which was in the mid to high 8's for a typical 10 mile run is very often dragged down to 9:45-10:15 now that its hot.   I can come out of the gates running in the high sevens and be totally worn out before mile 5 is done. I just cant do what i did in May, which was a 10 miler PR with 7:49 splits. Nothing unusual about this at all.  Ive come to terms with it and im starting to enjoy the slower runs, but its not really by choice.  Id rather be running faster, but this has shown me that easy pace can buy me an extra 5 miles a week over my usual 25 with no additional fatigue, even in the heat. Since marathon success has much more to do with endurance and prep than raw speed, im formulating a plan in my head already, 3 months before mileage really ramps up. This is good. Volume is king for a marathon or longer race.

So, for those of you who run marathons, does a 10 minute mile pace for a "normal" 18 or 20 mile run in the training block sound excessively slow for a goal pace around 8:30? Nothing abnormal about this at all. 90+ sec/mi slower than marathon pace is pretty typical. You might slow down a bit more than that. Right now my easy LRs are frequently 2 min/mile or more slower than what I'm anticipating my marathon pace to be by November.  Not talking about progression runs or the later runs with 6 or 8 miles at MP, just my day-in and day-out mileage builders? If i lay down 50 miles a week at 10 minute pacing, plus another 10 or so at MP or better, am I setting myself up for failure? Without getting into specifics, no that looks good. Much better than most people's first marathon training, actually.
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8/12/2026 6:44:01 PM EDT
[#28]
8.0 / 1029.0

Feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog's Day
8/13/2026 10:45:07 AM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By TurkeyLeg:
Ive got a question thats been on my mind lately. Let me know if this is a bad spot for it.  I can start another thread.  This is about training block long run pacing.  

My big goal right now is to run my first full marathon in March.  I ran my first race, a half, this last March and did it in 1hr 50 mins -- 8:24 / mile.  Shortly after, my performance got better until the heat kicked in.  Ive set my marathon goal time very fast on purpose - 3 hrs 45 minutes.  Im not the type to be happy with the usual advice ("Its your first marathon, just concentrate on finishing and enjoy it").  I have to have something specific to work and train for, otherwise I wont be invested.  I may (probably will) fail to hit goal, but it wont be from a lack of trying.

Anywho, this summer has beat my ass and my winter long run pace which was in the mid to high 8's for a typical 10 mile run is very often dragged down to 9:45-10:15 now that its hot.  I can come out of the gates running in the high sevens and be totally worn out before mile 5 is done. I just cant do what i did in May, which was a 10 miler PR with 7:49 splits.  Ive come to terms with it and im starting to enjoy the slower runs, but its not really by choice.  Id rather be running faster, but this has shown me that easy pace can buy me an extra 5 miles a week over my usual 25 with no additional fatigue, even in the heat. Since marathon success has much more to do with endurance and prep than raw speed, im formulating a plan in my head already, 3 months before mileage really ramps up.

So, for those of you who run marathons, does a 10 minute mile pace for a "normal" 18 or 20 mile run in the training block sound excessively slow for a goal pace around 8:30?  Not talking about progression runs or the later runs with 6 or 8 miles at MP, just my day-in and day-out mileage builders? If i lay down 50 miles a week at 10 minute pacing, plus another 10 or so at MP or better, am I setting myself up for failure?
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Yeah the heat is no joke.  I think this week is going to be the hottest so far this summer.  Absolutely the pace suffers on both easy runs and faster paces.  Just do the best you can.

I'm curious if you have any formal plan to get from here to the March marathon.  It's one thing if your goal is solely to complete it.  It's quite another if your goal is to hit a specific time.  I'm going through that now with HM training.  I have no issue running that distance, but ideally I'd like to finish under 1:40.  Basically I've used ChatGPT with extensive input to formulate a 16 week plan.  I am targeting November for that race.
8/13/2026 10:50:42 AM EDT
[#30]
6 / 2,106

Obviously quite fatigued by yesterday's huge workout, this was by far my slowest run in a couple years. I'm actually kinda proud of the paces, with one pace I haven't seen since I was running well over 100mpw training for a hundred miler.
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8/13/2026 11:15:37 AM EDT
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Obviously quite fatigued by yesterday's huge workout, this was by far my slowest run in a couple years. I'm actually kinda proud of the paces, with one pace I haven't seen since I was running well over 100mpw training for a hundred miler.
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Saw that.  Sounds like a punishing workout.  I did a 6x1000 at 'I' pace earlier this year with jogging recovery but it was more of a 1:1 run/recovery interval.  That was a punishing workout.  Honestly don't know if I could complete 10x1000 with a shorter recovery.
8/13/2026 11:36:34 AM EDT
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Saw that.  Sounds like a punishing workout.  I did a 6x1000 at 'I' pace earlier this year with jogging recovery but it was more of a 1:1 run/recovery interval.  That was a punishing workout.  Honestly don't know if I could complete 10x1000 with a shorter recovery.
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It definitely was. I skew towards the "hold a given pace for a long time" side of things rather than "run faster for a given time/distance", so I can pull off something insanely high volume like that one, but if you asked me to run 15 sec/mi faster for even half that I'd struggle.
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8/13/2026 12:03:58 PM EDT
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Yeah the heat is no joke.  I think this week is going to be the hottest so far this summer.  Absolutely the pace suffers on both easy runs and faster paces.  Just do the best you can.

I'm curious if you have any formal plan to get from here to the March marathon.  It's one thing if your goal is solely to complete it.  It's quite another if your goal is to hit a specific time.  I'm going through that now with HM training.  I have no issue running that distance, but ideally I'd like to finish under 1:40.  Basically I've used ChatGPT with extensive input to formulate a 16 week plan.  I am targeting November for that race.
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My plan is currently formed, but not fleshed out.  Essentially its a slow ramp from sometime in October up till race day, March 23rd.  Im currently doing 25-30 mile weeks, which served me well for half marathon prep.  Frankly, the half is "easy" for me.  By that, i mean i dont have to worry much about fueling, hydration or huge mileage blocks.  I just got out there and ran until the race was over.  

The marathon, however, will be the hardest thing ive ever done, i suspect.  As a diabetic, my fueling will be a little different, but overall similar to what everyone else does.  I have the advantage of knowing exactly what my glucose is at any given time and I also can tell you how many grams of carbohydrate it takes to maintain a given level.  That doesnt equate to what ends up being muscle glycogen, but it takes some of the guesswork out of it.  You know how people say "you need X grams of carbs per hour" while racing?  Those estimates dont apply to me, because i have hard numbers I can work with.  So fueling and hydration is straightforward.  

My biggest concern is just reaching the level of fitness i need to hit to make that 26.2 happen in a way i can be happy with.  Keen said its more that two halves, and fully I believe it.  I assume that I have to tripple my fitness to match my performance in the half, minimum.

So right now, my plan looks like this - ramp up to around 60 miles a week, with maybe a down week of 30 miles every 4 or 5 weeks.  Mostly slow runs with an eye towards recovery.  One threshhold run a week.  Im pretty much dropping everything in my life to make time for mileage and sleep.  Everyone and everything else will be secondary to that.  Definitely open to suggestions from all you guys.  

I watch the mileage and paces you guys do on Garmin and Strava.  Not for comparison to my own running, as I have less experience and different goals.  However, you guys have running "personalities" that stand out over time.  I can see some crazy interval workout thats over 15 miles long and still averages in the 7's -- and know its Keen before I even read the name, lol.  This is actually pretty educational, especially when I come back here and someone says they felt good, felt like trash, etc...
8/13/2026 12:39:48 PM EDT
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My plan is currently formed, but not fleshed out.  Essentially its a slow ramp from sometime in October up till race day, March 23rd.  Im currently doing 25-30 mile weeks, which served me well for half marathon prep.  Frankly, the half is "easy" for me.  By that, i mean i dont have to worry much about fueling, hydration or huge mileage blocks.  I just got out there and ran until the race was over.  

The marathon, however, will be the hardest thing ive ever done, i suspect.  As a diabetic, my fueling will be a little different, but overall similar to what everyone else does.  I have the advantage of knowing exactly what my glucose is at any given time and I also can tell you how many grams of carbohydrate it takes to maintain a given level.  That doesnt equate to what ends up being muscle glycogen, but it takes some of the guesswork out of it.  You know how people say "you need X grams of carbs per hour" while racing?  Those estimates dont apply to me, because i have hard numbers I can work with.  So fueling and hydration is straightforward.  

My biggest concern is just reaching the level of fitness i need to hit to make that 26.2 happen in a way i can be happy with.  Keen said its more that two halves, and fully I believe it.  I assume that I have to tripple my fitness to match my performance in the half, minimum.

So right now, my plan looks like this - ramp up to around 60 miles a week, with maybe a down week of 30 miles every 4 or 5 weeks.  Mostly slow runs with an eye towards recovery.  One threshhold run a week.  Im pretty much dropping everything in my life to make time for mileage and sleep.  Everyone and everything else will be secondary to that.  Definitely open to suggestions from all you guys.  

I watch the mileage and paces you guys do on Garmin and Strava.  Not for comparison to my own running, as I have less experience and different goals.  However, you guys have running "personalities" that stand out over time.  I can see some crazy interval workout thats over 15 miles long and still averages in the 7's -- and know its Keen before I even read the name, lol.  This is actually pretty educational, especially when I come back here and someone says they felt good, felt like trash, etc...
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Good that you have at least a framework in place.  I would certainly caution about ramping up mileage too quickly.  I'd suggest ramping up the weekly mileage gracefully so that you dont end up with an overuse injury that's just going to derail your plans.

To your point about making sacrifices.  I'm right there with you.  I passed on quite a few other activities this year because it interfered with my training plans.  To me, training is the priority right now.  

Lastly, during longer runs right now is a good time to practice your fueling strategy.  Personally anything less than ~12 miles, I dont bring gels or fluids.  I tend to hydrate round the clock anyway.  But you want to practice with various brands of gels work for you and also how to wrangle the packaging while on the run.  It's worth putting a little cut in the packaging beforehand so that it opens more easily.  I've had some I've had to tear open with my teeth while on the run since my hands and the packaging was so slick with sweat.
8/13/2026 1:55:24 PM EDT
[#35]
12.63/2501.09

Jumping on the marathon advice. Work that volume of miles up and keep it up. 60+ per week is a good target that should set you up nicely for a solid sub 4 marathon. Pace is not near as important as volume. A marathon is just as much mental as it is physical, especially in the dark period between 14-20 miles. Get your mind right to push through the fatigue and pain and boredom and chafing.
In the Marines I got PT Thrashed on Christmas by our Drill Instructor because he blamed the death of Christ on recruits.
-USAWTF
8/13/2026 2:19:14 PM EDT
[#36]
The fueling thing has ended up being weird for me.  I documented some of it in another thread here specific to diabetics.  I started taking low dose Retatrutide a few months ago.  Its a GLP drug that I primarily hoped would help with blood glucose and on the side hoped it would knock down a little hunger from my 250 calorie a day deficit.  Spoiler alert, the dose did nothing to my hunger but it kicked my glucose in the ass.  My A1C is 4.7-4.8 right now, thats awesome.

The point is, gels have a weird effect.  They take 30-45 minutes to kick in for me and they sometimes have little to no effect on glucose now.  Probably due to slower digestion from the drug and increased glucose uptake response as well.  

Tailwind endurance fuel, however, is the best thing ive ever seen.  Two or three sips per mile, on the mile, maintains my glucose at 100-110.  Since i track it on my Garmin as I run, i can adjust in real time.  I cant do that with gels.  Ive even played around and dug myself out of a glucose hole, on the run, by adjusting my sip interval.  Thats how fast Tailwind works.  Supposedly it bypasses stomach digestion and immediately gets consumed through the upper intestine.  Id say its a potential tool for serial late-stage marathon bonk-ers.  

Off retatrutide, my glucose does the opposite and rides high, so ill have to fuel differently if I race while off of it.

Sorry for the tangent, but i think it applies to people who arent diabetics if youre prone to bonking.  Gels are great, but extremely slow.  I think most endurance runners can tolerate the rapid blood sugar spike from something like Tailwind, so its a potential tool for your toolkit.
8/13/2026 2:26:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Gents, you all have my sincere thanks for the advice.  I dont personally know anyone who runs, much less does marathons.  This is much more valuable to me than generic advice from one of the Limeys on Youtube or ChatGPT.
8/13/2026 2:37:57 PM EDT
[#38]
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Gents, you all have my sincere thanks for the advice.  I dont personally know anyone who runs, much less does marathons.  This is much more valuable to me than generic advice from one of the Limeys on Youtube or ChatGPT.
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You're certainly welcome. Keep asking away if anything comes to mind.

A huge majority of my running knowledge was spawn from forums, actually. When I first started running I was looking for info on HR training and stumbled upon a now-defunct running forum. I hung around there for years before it shut down, then myself and a number of others migrated to a different one and have kept up the chatter. I've learned a ton directly from them, and indirectly thanks to them suggesting different training books, etc. Some of these same people I've been talking with over the forums for about 9 years or so now, one I've even met and run a marathon with.
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8/13/2026 8:20:10 PM EDT
[#39]
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8/13/2026 9:46:34 PM EDT
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Went to a local track at the end of the day and HS kids were having a football game already.  It would have been real easy to just punt and go home after a busy week.  But I found a sports complex and just did laps around the baseball diamonds.  90F and 77F dew point.  Probably one of the hottest days yet.  Great conditions for a threshold run!  So I really ran more by effort and accepted that pace would be off by 30 sec per mile.  But surprisingly it was only of by 2 second per mile.  Literally soaked down to my socks and shoes when done.
8/14/2026 9:48:53 PM EDT
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I did the Hansons marathon method. There is a book and also info online for this plan.  I went from running 0 miles, smoking weed every day, and drinking 5 days a week to following this program (started 2/2024) and ran a 3:25:46 marathon (5/11/2024) for my first marathon ever.  The longest run in this training block is 16 miles. I tossed in few 17 milers and  a single day of a 20 mile double. That was a half marathon trail race, celebratory pizza and IPA’s, then got home and ran another 7 miles. Lol.

Ultimately a lot of the programs are the same IMO. 3-4 easy runs, 1 interval, 1 tempo, 1 long.   Strategically placing your rest day between the long and intervals, or wherever the hell you can fit it in.  Strength days and cross training do not hurt!  

I honestly think ChatGPT and throw together 1 hell of a plan if you prompt it correctly.  You can update it week by week. Tell it exactly which race you’re signed up for and have it check the ascent you need to train for, have it look up the weather for that day.  Tell it how many miles per week or time you can fit in. Enter in your previous race times or PR’s. Strength training days.  Cross training days.  Which muscles you want to target or hell, even ask which muscles you should be targeting.

My biggest advice and best advice I’ve gotten.

Respect the mileage!

Embrace the suck. If it’s easy, you aren’t doing it right.
8/14/2026 9:53:19 PM EDT
[#42]
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This plantar fasciitis is hit or miss. Some days it’s unnoticeable, some days it’s unbearable.

Got a boot from a friend I need to try at night, also need to start stretching the calves a bit more.

Only bothers me when I’m not running.  When I’m running I have ZERO pain.

Recommendations on good recovery slides or slippers?  

8/14/2026 11:23:19 PM EDT
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I did the Hansons marathon method. There is a book and also info online for this plan.  I went from running 0 miles, smoking weed every day, and drinking 5 days a week to following this program (started 2/2024) and ran a 3:25:46 marathon (5/11/2024) for my first marathon ever.  The longest run in this training block is 16 miles. I tossed in few 17 milers and  a single day of a 20 mile double. That was a half marathon trail race, celebratory pizza and IPA’s, then got home and ran another 7 miles. Lol.

Ultimately a lot of the programs are the same IMO. 3-4 easy runs, 1 interval, 1 tempo, 1 long.   Strategically placing your rest day between the long and intervals, or wherever the hell you can fit it in.  Strength days and cross training do not hurt!  

I honestly think ChatGPT and throw together 1 hell of a plan if you prompt it correctly.  You can update it week by week. Tell it exactly which race you’re signed up for and have it check the ascent you need to train for, have it look up the weather for that day.  Tell it how many miles per week or time you can fit in. Enter in your previous race times or PR’s. Strength training days.  Cross training days.  Which muscles you want to target or hell, even ask which muscles you should be targeting.

My biggest advice and best advice I’ve gotten.

Respect the mileage!

Embrace the suck. If it’s easy, you aren’t doing it right.
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A best friend has has incredible success with Hanson's.

Damn. And I thought my 3:35 debut after ~10 months was good.

After obtaining the ability to reliably run a given distance it never gets easier, you just get faster.

Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
8/15/2026 11:26:08 AM EDT
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Birthday run, wanted to hit 800 ytd by today.
8/15/2026 11:34:37 AM EDT
[#45]
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Originally Posted By Trod7308:


I did the Hansons marathon method. There is a book and also info online for this plan.  I went from running 0 miles, smoking weed every day, and drinking 5 days a week to following this program (started 2/2024) and ran a 3:25:46 marathon (5/11/2024) for my first marathon ever.  The longest run in this training block is 16 miles. I tossed in few 17 milers and  a single day of a 20 mile double. That was a half marathon trail race, celebratory pizza and IPA's, then got home and ran another 7 miles. Lol.

Ultimately a lot of the programs are the same IMO. 3-4 easy runs, 1 interval, 1 tempo, 1 long.   Strategically placing your rest day between the long and intervals, or wherever the hell you can fit it in.  Strength days and cross training do not hurt!  

I honestly think ChatGPT and throw together 1 hell of a plan if you prompt it correctly.  You can update it week by week. Tell it exactly which race you're signed up for and have it check the ascent you need to train for, have it look up the weather for that day.  Tell it how many miles per week or time you can fit in. Enter in your previous race times or PR's. Strength training days.  Cross training days.  Which muscles you want to target or hell, even ask which muscles you should be targeting.

My biggest advice and best advice I've gotten.

Respect the mileage!

Embrace the suck. If it's easy, you aren't doing it right.
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Man, ChatGPT is awesome.  I feel like a boomer that just discovered the internet.  I actually pay the 20 bucks a month for the ability to do unlimited uploads and whatnot.  I use it for CAD/CAM stuff, bloodwork and biomarker evaluation, even running analysis and fitness stuff.  It took my lifting splits, rearranged the individual exercises and spread the load out evenly.  No more "leg day", but all the muscle groups get hit hard throughout the week.  My progression rate has been the same, even though my sessions went from 75-85 minutes three times a week to 65 minutes 3 times a week.  No more running on sore glutes, quads, hams and hips at the same time.  Worst case scenario, i overdo one exercise and ive got one muscle group acting up.  

Except for deep squats.  Gotta respect them, no matter what.  
8/15/2026 3:57:22 PM EDT
[#46]
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Arrived at the track around 8am to do some intervals.  Of course a few HS students were doing some drills with a coach about my age.  I made sure with him that the kids were not going to use the track.  Coach looked at me like I was nuts for running this morning.  I told him if I stroked out, at least he would be there to drag my body to the shade.

Regardless, it felt decent.  Granted it was 8x400, so not long intervals.  But active recovery and hit pace targets.  Actually -5 sec/mile.  In Garmin's ever annoying algorithm data chaos, it gave my execution score a 12%.
8/15/2026 4:01:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Happy Birthday Turkey Leg!

I also went to the local Fleet Feet today.  They have a pretty varied gel selection.  I was looking for something that's actually more liquid than standard Gu.  I picked up a few to try including Liquid Gu, Honey Stinger, and UCan.  Will give them a try on the longer runs.

I did see the TailWind stuff.  It has 50g of sugar, so that was a turnoff for me.  Maurten Gel was also recommended somewhere, but that also has 40g of sugar.
8/15/2026 4:40:15 PM EDT
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Yep, thats why Tailwind and Maurten are recommended to people on GLP-1's and folks that simply have problems training their gut to gels.  The refined carbs hit faster and need little to none of the digestion process that something like Gu or the regular SIS gels use.  Theres absolutely nothing wrong with using a regular gel, the fuels i use are as much to keep me from flirting with hypoglycemia as they are for endurance.  Ironically, after I quit the GLP drug this fall (it crushes long run endurance), ill probably go back to making too much blood sugar on hard long runs.  

Regardless, muscle glycogen formation is so slow that you cant really replace it in a run anyway.  All you can really do is keep enough carbohydrate in your system to keep things quasi-efficient and stop your brain from saying "oh shit, need dat sugar" and throwing the brakes on.
8/15/2026 5:03:45 PM EDT
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Happy Birthday Turkey Leg!

I also went to the local Fleet Feet today.  They have a pretty varied gel selection.  I was looking for something that's actually more liquid than standard Gu.  I picked up a few to try including Liquid Gu, Honey Stinger, and UCan.  Will give them a try on the longer runs.

I did see the TailWind stuff.  It has 50g of sugar, so that was a turnoff for me.  Maurten Gel was also recommended somewhere, but that also has 40g of sugar.
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Sugar is literally the point of the gels. Quick, easily digestible energy while on a run. A large number of carbs per hour (40-50+) is the current trend in fueling, particularly for races.

The standard Science in Sport gels are liquid-y and have fewer carbs than the others you listed. They do have a fancier Beta Fuel line (I love these, they're my go-to for races) but those are also on the higher-carb side.
Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
8/15/2026 6:41:50 PM EDT
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Sugar is literally the point of the gels. Quick, easily digestible energy while on a run. A large number of carbs per hour (40-50+) is the current trend in fueling, particularly for races.

The standard Science in Sport gels are liquid-y and have fewer carbs than the others you listed. They do have a fancier Beta Fuel line (I love these, they're my go-to for races) but those are also on the higher-carb side.
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That's interesting.  We really limit the sugar or HFCS in our diet.  That would be quite a shock to my system to put that amount down.  Not discounting it, but will experiment with it.

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