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Posted: 12/28/2012 6:04:27 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:09:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 6:09:50 AM EDT by DarkCharisma]
Utah is full of smart people. This isn't surprising, especially since we have a TON of teachers already carrying daily. These were likely the ones who figured they should just jump on the bandwagon with their colleagues.

My MIL--a very sweet, very generous, very liberal woman who I love dearly despite all of it, is a 30-year veteran educator and principal. Just a couple weeks ago she said, without any hesitation, that she was going to go get her CCW and a pistol. I don't think my jaw has ever dropped so far, so fast before.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:10:09 AM EDT
To carol, fuck you.

To Jessica, let's see pictures.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:10:20 AM EDT
More people coming around to our side.


Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:12:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TheWatch:
More people coming around to our side.




They always were on our side, just never felt a "need" to carry. I've only met a small handful of anti-CCW folk here in Utah, and even then, their platforms were shaky at best.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:12:58 AM EDT
Where are the f@#$ are the pics of the bra holster dammit
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:14:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

It's a terrible idea," said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education. "It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea."



In the education world, if an administrator or school board member doesn't like it then it is probably a good idea.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:16:15 AM EDT
Carol Lear mad.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:17:47 AM EDT
well i hope the lawyer gets held at gun point so she knows what its like
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:18:14 AM EDT
The guys from OpsGear did this for them. I believe it was free as well but I amy be wrong.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:30:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By scottc1071:
Where are the f@#$ are the pics of the bra holster dammit


More importantly we need pics of teacher wearing the bra holster.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:32:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Spade:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

It's a terrible idea," said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education. "It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea."



In the education world, if an administrator or school board member doesn't like it then it is probably a good idea.


Truer words are seldom spoken.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:01:42 AM EDT
I see Carol is reading at a 2nd grade level. Good for her!


Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:06:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By savageoneseven:
I see Carol is reading at a 2nd grade level. Good for her!



You nailed it!

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:13:06 AM EDT
Carol B. Lear
School Law and Legislation
Utah State Office of Education
PO Box 144200
250 East 500 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-4200
Fax: (801) 538-7768

carol.lear@schools.utah.gov
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:13:15 AM EDT
The anti's don't want our teachers armed probably because they realize some teacher might put down there coddled little FSA hoodrat when he decides it's time to punch teacher in the face because he did not do his homework.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:51:08 AM EDT
Isn't the "Gun Free School Zone" a federal thing?

Wonder if a teacher would get a little attention and cooperation from little Johnny Hoodrat if he thought his teacher was packin'.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:52:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By scottlang:
Originally Posted By scottc1071:
Where are the f@#$ are the pics of the bra holster dammit


More importantly we need pics of teacher wearing the bra holster.


This is what I was hoping to see when I clicked on the thread.

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:00:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JimEb:
Isn't the "Gun Free School Zone" a federal thing?

Wonder if a teacher would get a little attention and cooperation from little Johnny Hoodrat if he thought his teacher was packin'.


The "helpless victim zone" bill allows states to decide if CCW is allowed in schools and on school grounds.

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:02:05 AM EDT
Utah is on my very, very short list if I ever decide to abandon VA.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:02:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:04:46 AM EDT
You wanted to see her, well, here she is:

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/600x474-253x200.jpg

All of the fantasy posts aside, I don't think it was a very good idea for the article to mention her name nor was it a good idea for the teacher to tell the whole fucking world as we know it where her gun is stashed.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:08:23 AM EDT
Well from that photo something needs to be "augmented" if she plans on using a bra holster.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:16:28 AM EDT
My wife is a Middle School Math teacher here in Utah. She expressed an interest in getting her CFL and learning how to carry. This is a first for her as she has usually shown little interest in firearms aside from the occasional range trip with me. She's a good shot too.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:20:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ThePontificator:
Originally Posted By JimEb:
Isn't the "Gun Free School Zone" a federal thing?

Wonder if a teacher would get a little attention and cooperation from little Johnny Hoodrat if he thought his teacher was packin'.


The "helpless victim zone" bill allows states to decide if CCW is allowed in schools and on school grounds.



This. I've carried several times while visiting my wife. The school police officer knew and had no problems with it. Some of my wife's coworkers would have a shit fit if they knew, but oh well. Fuck them.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:37:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Blackfire:
Originally Posted By ThePontificator:
Originally Posted By JimEb:
Isn't the "Gun Free School Zone" a federal thing?

Wonder if a teacher would get a little attention and cooperation from little Johnny Hoodrat if he thought his teacher was packin'.


The "helpless victim zone" bill allows states to decide if CCW is allowed in schools and on school grounds.



This. I've carried several times while visiting my wife. The school police officer knew and had no problems with it. Some of my wife's coworkers would have a shit fit if they knew, but oh well. Fuck them.


My wife is a teacher and has carried for 3 or 4 years as the state and more importantly in her case, her district, allows her to carry. Her district policies say she can't tell anyone at school she carries, it has to be on her person at all times (no purse carry or locked in a desk) and legally she is on her own if she has an ND or if she shoots in defense. Frankly the biggest problem with her carrying are finding clothes for her to carry IWB.

Utah CCW holders can carry in schools so I do when I go to our kids' programs or whatnot.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:48:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By UT-ARShooter:
Originally Posted By Blackfire:
Originally Posted By ThePontificator:
Originally Posted By JimEb:
Isn't the "Gun Free School Zone" a federal thing?

Wonder if a teacher would get a little attention and cooperation from little Johnny Hoodrat if he thought his teacher was packin'.


The "helpless victim zone" bill allows states to decide if CCW is allowed in schools and on school grounds.



This. I've carried several times while visiting my wife. The school police officer knew and had no problems with it. Some of my wife's coworkers would have a shit fit if they knew, but oh well. Fuck them.


My wife is a teacher and has carried for 3 or 4 years as the state and more importantly in her case, her district, allows her to carry. Her district policies say she can't tell anyone at school she carries, it has to be on her person at all times (no purse carry or locked in a desk) and legally she is on her own if she has an ND or if she shoots in defense. Frankly the biggest problem with her carrying are finding clothes for her to carry IWB.

Utah CCW holders can carry in schools so I do when I go to our kids' programs or whatnot.


Remember, we have CFLs in Utah, not CCWs. There actually IS a difference.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:49:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Blackfire:
Originally Posted By UT-ARShooter:
Originally Posted By Blackfire:
Originally Posted By ThePontificator:
Originally Posted By JimEb:
Isn't the "Gun Free School Zone" a federal thing?

Wonder if a teacher would get a little attention and cooperation from little Johnny Hoodrat if he thought his teacher was packin'.


The "helpless victim zone" bill allows states to decide if CCW is allowed in schools and on school grounds.



This. I've carried several times while visiting my wife. The school police officer knew and had no problems with it. Some of my wife's coworkers would have a shit fit if they knew, but oh well. Fuck them.


My wife is a teacher and has carried for 3 or 4 years as the state and more importantly in her case, her district, allows her to carry. Her district policies say she can't tell anyone at school she carries, it has to be on her person at all times (no purse carry or locked in a desk) and legally she is on her own if she has an ND or if she shoots in defense. Frankly the biggest problem with her carrying are finding clothes for her to carry IWB.

Utah CCW holders can carry in schools so I do when I go to our kids' programs or whatnot.


Remember, we have CFLs in Utah, not CCWs. There actually IS a difference.


You are right...forgot about that.
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