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Posted: 10/4/2005 9:09:20 AM EDT
Poll coming.

Have you read it or not?

If Red Dawn and Heat are required watching for ARFCOM'ers, then 1984 should definitely be on the list of must reads.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:11:24 AM EDT
10 years ago I'd say that was true, that you had to read 1984. Now, I think you could just take a vacation in Mr. Blair's Britain and get the same effect.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:13:23 AM EDT
I think Chicago, IL is cheaper for most people, although I agree the screnery in Britian is nicer.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:21:29 AM EDT
I teach it. It is amazing how you can open up the eyes of a high school junior or senior with that book. I used examples of the news coming out of New Orleans as doublethink and newspeak today. What is really weird to me is that the "fiction-y" parts of the book (eg telescreens and no books) are readily believable by today's youth, but the political parts seem far-fetched. I explain to them that most governments in the history of the world did not greatly differ from Orwell's vision, especially Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia, and they look at me like that is inconceivable.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:21:32 AM EDT
It was part of my HS english class in the seventies. Seemed pretty far fetched then but still scary. I bet they dont let you read it now.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:24:24 AM EDT
Yes. I've read "1984" a few times.

How about "Farenheit 451", "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and "Atlas Shrugged"?

All should be required reading IMHO.

echo6
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:26:04 AM EDT
I read "1984" in 1983.
It jaded me forever..
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:26:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
It was part of my HS english class in the seventies. Seemed pretty far fetched then but still scary. I bet they dont let you read it now.



My girllfriend is a 1st grade reading teacher. She had never heard of it before I talked about it. Obvoisly its not a book for 1st graders, but with all her formal education, she was never exposed to 1984.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:26:57 AM EDT
"1984" and "Animal Farm" are on my list of essential books.

Orwell was a prophet.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:27:05 AM EDT
Whats it about? And don't say the year 1984
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:27:52 AM EDT
*glances at screen name*
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:30:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 9:31:06 AM EDT by mjohn3006]

Originally Posted By jmboom:
Whats it about? And don't say the year 1984



The way the world is visioned to be in 1984. Socialist JBT extream bad juju kinda thing.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:32:33 AM EDT
speaking of 1984 and related incongruencies...


how did republicans who were abolitionists and proponents of civil rights in the south during the 1960's get to be bad guys in the eyes of blacks

Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:32:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jmboom:
Whats it about? And don't say the year 1984



1984 online

Brave New World online
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:34:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hk940:
speaking of 1984 and related incongruencies...


how did republicans who were abolitionists and proponents of civil rights in the south during the 1960's get to be bad guys in the eyes of blacks




Its Bush's fault.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:43:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 9:45:52 AM EDT by gks452]
I listened to the book on tape (unabridged). So I'm counting that as reading.

What really struck me was not 'Big Brother is Watching'. It was 'New Speak'. The idea was to change the language so that 'Thought Crime' was not possible. I was like HFS that's exactly what political correctness is all about.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:45:24 AM EDT

The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.

Winston turned round abruptly. He had set his features into the expression of quiet optimism which it was advisable to wear when facing the telescreen.

'Tell me,' he said, 'how soon will they shoot me?'

'It might be a long time,' said O'Brien. 'You are a difficult case. But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you.'

Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:47:51 AM EDT
I read it, but it was a long time ago so I don't remember much. I think I'll go to the bookstore tonight and try it again.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:48:30 AM EDT
I read it in jr. high school in '84.

I should read it again. And I still have to get read up on Ayn Rand...
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:49:14 AM EDT
1984 was required reading in my high school English class.

As I understand, it is barely ever taught anymore and I know many English majors who have never heard of it.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:52:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Brohawk:
"1984" and "Animal Farm" are on my list of essential books.

Orwell was a prophet.



+1 Those two are among my favorite books
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:53:42 AM EDT
Read it in 7th grade. Thanks Sister Mary.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:00:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By echo6:
Yes. I've read "1984" a few times.

How about "Farenheit 451", "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and "Atlas Shrugged"?

All should be required reading IMHO.

echo6





Agree with that 100%!

Atlas Shrugged is probably my all time favorite.Just started reading "The Fountainhead".
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:01:56 AM EDT
read it twice.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:02:18 AM EDT
Late 1983/very early 1984 I realized what year it was and set about to read the book.

It never happened. Still hasn't, over 20 yrs later.

One of the great failures of my life.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:03:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 10:03:18 AM EDT by PlaymoreMinds]

Originally Posted By echo6:
Yes. I've read "1984" a few times.

How about "Farenheit 451", "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and "Atlas Shrugged"?

All should be required reading IMHO.

echo6



I've read all but the highlighted ones..they were a part of mandatory reading as well as another political commentary "The Mouse that roared."
I was a member of the graduating class of 1984 so we all thought it was pretty funny at the time....

20 years later, and ya know, it's lost some of that humor!
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:05:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:

Originally Posted By Brohawk:
"1984" and "Animal Farm" are on my list of essential books.

Orwell was a prophet.



+1 Those two are among my favorite books



+2
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:17:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By echo6:
Yes. I've read "1984" a few times.

How about "Farenheit 451", "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and "Atlas Shrugged"?

All should be required reading IMHO.

echo6



All good reading.

...I read 1984 in 1980. Lies, none of it came true.

Some visionary.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:25:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:29:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 10:30:13 AM EDT by mjohn3006]

Originally Posted By mfingar:

Originally Posted By echo6:
Yes. I've read "1984" a few times.

How about "Farenheit 451", "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and "Atlas Shrugged"?

All should be required reading IMHO.

echo6



All good reading.

...I read 1984 in 1980. Lies, none of it came true.

Some visionary.



Okay, so maybe he should have named it 2084. But some things have come true and some things are trying to come about.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:43:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mfingar:
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All good reading.

...I read 1984 in 1980. Lies, none of it came true.

Some visionary.



He was off in the timing (yeah, I remember everybody talking about "1984" in 1984), but you can see much of what he wrote about happening today, if you dare open your eyes.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:55:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:
Late 1983/very early 1984 I realized what year it was and set about to read the book.

It never happened. Still hasn't, over 20 yrs later.

One of the great failures of my life.



Then get off your butt and read it now...
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:01:05 AM EDT
In case anyone wants to read up on some classics, here's a good link: www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/top

Keep in mind most of these are old, and there are no Orwell books that I could find. But where else can you print out a copy of the Koran and use it as toilet paper?
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:08:53 AM EDT
one of the best books I have ever read.
I read about once a year.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:14:25 AM EDT
We Read Farenheit 451, Animal Farm, and Brave New World in high school. 1984 was never required, but I read it on my own.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:26:18 AM EDT
How many people died in the Superdome?
Why, none of course...just put those stories of dead and raped 7 year olds down the memory hole.

Semi-automatic assault weapons designed to be spray fired from the hip?
New speak.

Think that black guy the company just hired got the job because of his race?
Thought crime.

Red light cameras?
Telescreens.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 12:51:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
How many people died in the Superdome?
Why, none of course...just put those stories of dead and raped 7 year olds down the memory hole.

Semi-automatic assault weapons designed to be spray fired from the hip?
New speak.

Think that black guy the company just hired got the job because of his race?
Thought crime.

Red light cameras?
Telescreens.



Gettin there.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 1:11:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mfingar:

Originally Posted By echo6:
Yes. I've read "1984" a few times.

How about "Farenheit 451", "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and "Atlas Shrugged"?

All should be required reading IMHO.

echo6



All good reading.

...I read 1984 in 1980. Lies, none of it came true.

Some visionary.



I suspect you would not have noticed if it all had come true.

It is a book of ideas and concepts not a railroad schedule.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 1:21:00 PM EDT
Read Brave New World and Farenheit 451. voted no in the poll because I haven't read it, but I plan too, because I have seen the movie. I am just waiting a while before I read it so that the movie won't be so fresh in my mind and I can read the book with an open mind instead of interpreting it in terms of the way it was portrayed in the movie. Not that there is probably any differences really, I just don't want to be thinking of what I saw in the movie the entire time.


animal farm and Ayn Rand are also on my to get to list.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 3:53:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 3:54:41 PM EDT by mjohn3006]

Originally Posted By EternalVigilance:
Read Brave New World and Farenheit 451. voted no in the poll because I haven't read it, but I plan too, because I have seen the movie. I am just waiting a while before I read it so that the movie won't be so fresh in my mind and I can read the book with an open mind instead of interpreting it in terms of the way it was portrayed in the movie. Not that there is probably any differences really, I just don't want to be thinking of what I saw in the movie the entire time.


animal farm and Ayn Rand are also on my to get to list.



There was a movie?

ETA well I be darned.
www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 3:58:15 PM EDT
No.
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