[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 10 essential items SHTF (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/30/2009 7:42:21 PM EDT
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Leaving out the obvious guns, ammo, food, fuel, and clothes what 10 items would you take
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Axe – You can do a lot with an axe.
Collapsible water containers – It can be a long walk between wells. Blankets – Hypothermia kills First aid kit – Infections kill too. Fire – It’s what separates us from the animals. Sunscreen – sunburn isn’t fun. Toilet paper – for obvious reasons Wheelbarrow – I know, there will be jokes. But the fact is, you can carry a lot of stuff in a wheelbarrow and move it over fairly rough terrain. Friends – Man isn’t a solitary animal and we don’t survive well alone. Radio – Even in SHTF someone is going to be on the air and you need some way to get information about what’s happening. |
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A will to survive. Books/reference materials Practical experience doing things you will rely on to survive come 'bad times' A group of like minded individuals you trust to watch your back while you sleep. A healthy mind and body Vetted plans for likely scenarios Valuable skills that can be traded for things you lack A realization that you are not rambo, and if you don't fight smart you will end up dead Hookers Blow |
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Water Fuel Tools Food Cash Transportation Documents Medication First Aid firearms. MINI RANT TIME I hate it when SF discussions turn into "What guns/loadout should I have?". I realize it's sort of fun to fantasize about mad-max days, shootouts with biker gangs, AND this is a gun forum, but people lose sight of the major things a person needs to survive. Everyone will run out of food or water far before they burn through their deeply stacked steel cased surplus ammo cases. Think about the most likely happenings.. Power outages, winter storms, tornados, hurricanes, floods, etc.. The most likely disasters aren't going to require you to run to your bunker to throw your chest rig, knee pads, and fighting carbine with 30 seconds notice. The other thing is guys that plan to build rifles specifically to hunt with after "judgement day".. Unless you have spent enough cold mornings out in the middle of nowhere glassing up game, there is no way in hell a non-hunter is going to be able to count on hunting as the main food source. Stocking up on surplus rifles that can hit a "deer sized target @ 200yds" is meaningless. Find another justification for your rifle purchase IMO. |
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Quoted: Everyone will run out of food or water far before they burn through their deeply stacked steel cased surplus ammo cases. I don't know where you live but water is flowing between each hill crest around here. All you have to do is boil and drink. Every enviroment is different. Stop being so pompous. |
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Ten ten-pound bags of pure oxycodone tablets. If i have guns and food, and i have to live in people-eat-people rape-and-murder-world for the rest of my life, I'm going to want to be happy. this is an awesome idea. then you wont need toilet paper ever again. |
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Ten ten-pound bags of pure oxycodone tablets. If i have guns and food, and i have to live in people-eat-people rape-and-murder-world for the rest of my life, I'm going to want to be happy. this is an awesome idea. then you wont need toilet paper ever again. And with slowed digestion, it stands to reason that I might get more nutrients out of the foods I ate. And either way, it wouldn't bother me. Plus, I could trade them for anything. |
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You'll need some moisturizer for sure to deal with the itch that comes from large quantities of Oxycontin usage. Not that I would know or anything. he said oxycodone, and fwiw i didnt itch when i was on em. (acl reconstruction) but shit 10 10lb bags of oxycontin is like 40 40lb bags of oxycodone. |
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one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. 
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You'll need some moisturizer for sure to deal with the itch that comes from large quantities of Oxycontin usage. Not that I would know or anything. he said oxycodone, and fwiw i didnt itch when i was on em. (acl reconstruction) but shit 10 10lb bags of oxycontin is like 40 40lb bags of oxycodone. Oxycontin is pure oxycodone with a time release component. Percocet is oxycodone and tylenol together. 10 10lb bags of oxycodone is the same as 10 10lb bags of oxycontin, just without any sort of time-release formulation built into the tablets. 100 lbs of it is probably a lifetime supply even at high level high tolerance deep addiction dosage. Street value of oxycodone is something like a dollar per milligram, to give some idea of what quantities addicts need and are willing to pay for. 100 lbs is 42 or so kg, which is to say, 42,000 grams, or 42 million milligrams. assuming even the perhaps unreasonably enormous, extremely tolerant addicted dose of 500mg / day, you'd have enough for 82,000 days, or more than 200 years. Assuming you're going to live no more than 50 more years as it is, you have 3/4 of your supply available to trade or give to others without even the possibility of any diminished utility for yourself. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Everyone will run out of food or water far before they burn through their deeply stacked steel cased surplus ammo cases. I don't know where you live but water is flowing between each hill crest around here. All you have to do is boil and drink. Every enviroment is different. Stop being so pompous. My location says AZ,USA and there's a picture of a fucking cactus on my avatar. Besides.. we've got steel cased ammo flowing between each hill crest around here. |
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one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Throw in a 10 megaton warhead and we have a plan. |
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You'll need some moisturizer for sure to deal with the itch that comes from large quantities of Oxycontin usage. Not that I would know or anything. he said oxycodone, and fwiw i didnt itch when i was on em. (acl reconstruction) but shit 10 10lb bags of oxycontin is like 40 40lb bags of oxycodone. Oxycontin is pure oxycodone with a time release component. Percocet is oxycodone and tylenol together. 10 10lb bags of oxycodone is the same as 10 10lb bags of oxycontin, just without any sort of time-release formulation built into the tablets. 100 lbs of it is probably a lifetime supply even at high level high tolerance deep addiction dosage. Street value of oxycodone is something like a dollar per milligram, to give some idea of what quantities addicts need and are willing to pay for. 100 lbs is 42 or so kg, which is to say, 42,000 grams, or 42 million milligrams. assuming even the perhaps unreasonably enormous, extremely tolerant addicted dose of 500mg / day, you'd have enough for 82,000 days, or more than 200 years. Assuming you're going to live no more than 50 more years as it is, you have 3/4 of your supply available to trade or give to others without even the possibility of any diminished utility for yourself. my numbers arent exact  . 1 percocet(oxyCODONE) depending on the dosage, say has 10 mg of juice + acetominophen, where an oxycontin has the same,10 mg of juice time releasing for 12 hours. so one oxycontin would have about 40 mg per pill. thats why i was saying if you had 10lbs etc...so in reality wouldnt it be like 10 10lbs of percocet/oxycodone <10 10lb oxycontin
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Quoted: Quoted: Everyone will run out of food or water far before they burn through their deeply stacked steel cased surplus ammo cases. I don't know where you live but water is flowing between each hill crest around here. All you have to do is boil and drink. Every enviroment is different. Stop being so pompous. NBC contaminates the h2O then what ??? He aint being pompous at all. The majority of any shtf thread be it here or other parts of arfcom turns into a joke fest about red dawn or hookers and blow. There are some of out here in Internet land that actually take being prepared seriously, and part of that is getting ready to fend of hungry hordes of ill prepared gun owners. Yeah,,, my biggest threat to my survival is not gonna be zombies, blue helmets, Obama storm troppers or the NWO. It will be Joe internet with his 4k of 556 and carbine that thinks he is a contractor straight from the box...but doesnt have jack shit for food, water or supplies and after 2 weeks , of hearing his wife bicth and moan and his kids cry will turn to trying to " TAKE" what he needs....we have how many members here on arfcom as an example, i'll lay money down that 95% of them cant make it past week 6 if they were cut off from wall mart and "running" water! so i guess im popmpous as well for seeing the reality of it that most gun owners are nothing more than armed sheep! When folks say we are our own worse enemy i believe it!  |
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one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Throw in a 10 megaton warhead and we have a plan. 
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Food and drink:
Bag of marshmallows Case of frozen White Castle burgers Case of YooHoo! Defense: Spear Nunchuks Lorcin 9mm Comms: Spraypaint & poster board Misc. Complete set of Dungeons and Dragons books Comics TV shows on DVD I think that covers all the bases. I can carry this stuff all day long in my hobo BOB (plastic grocery bags). |
Add a titanium pot to the list
From REI http://www.rei.com/product/764181 Comes in .9 liter, 1.3 liter, and 4 liter variations. |
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Toilet paper?
I don't get that...at all. Its very bulky and there are many, many natural alternatives that get the job done just fine and can be picked up as you go. There should be nothing packed or carried that is found in abundance in nature. TP is absolutely one of those items. Save the space for vastly more uncommon items. If we're limiting this discussion to 10 items, TP shouldn't come close to making the list IMO. 100 items, sure. 10, no way....vastly more important things to bring than TP. |
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Ten ten-pound bags of pure oxycodone tablets. If i have guns and food, and i have to live in people-eat-people rape-and-murder-world for the rest of my life, I'm going to want to be happy. This explains alot. Yes, it is the cleverest idea anyone posted in the thread. |
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Ten ten-pound bags of pure oxycodone tablets. If i have guns and food, and i have to live in people-eat-people rape-and-murder-world for the rest of my life, I'm going to want to be happy. This explains alot. Yes, it is the cleverest idea anyone posted in the thread. You're definitely a legend in your own mind. |
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Classic, LOL.
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one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. 
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Ten ten-pound bags of pure oxycodone tablets. If i have guns and food, and i have to live in people-eat-people rape-and-murder-world for the rest of my life, I'm going to want to be happy. This explains alot. Yes, it is the cleverest idea anyone posted in the thread. You're definitely a legend in your own mind. I suppose on further reflection the Dr Strangelove one was at least as clever. |