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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:45:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:48:41 PM EDT
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Security cam video?
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:52:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Security cam video? Quote HistoryQuoted: Security cam video? from her IG: This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for Instacart shot & killed our precious Oliver. He got out of his car, delivered the food & THEN shot our dog. Our ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then knew he wasn’t being recorded. The police let him go b/c he claimed “self defense”. He did not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:53:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:53:27 PM EDT
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I wonder what the dog breed was....
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:53:54 PM EDT
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"he did not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn." how many scratches or bites until it's ok to act? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: from her IG: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Security cam video? from her IG: This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for Instacart shot & killed our precious Oliver. He got out of his car, delivered the food & THEN shot our dog. Our ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then knew he wasn’t being recorded. The police let him go b/c he claimed “self defense”. He did not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. So famous celebrities only have the one camera? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:56:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what the dog breed was.... . My first thought |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:56:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So famous celebrities only have the one camera? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Security cam video? from her IG: This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for Instacart shot & killed our precious Oliver. He got out of his car, delivered the food & THEN shot our dog. Our ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then knew he wasn’t being recorded. The police let him go b/c he claimed “self defense”. He did not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. So famous celebrities only have the one camera? seriously. and not hard-wired for power? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what the dog breed was.... . I can't link the photo, but it looks to be a Tibetan Mastiff. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:57:54 PM EDT
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Oh well.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 12:59:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what the dog breed was.... . Collie |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what the dog breed was.... . Looks like it was a nice, mellow GSD/Lab mix, if I had to guess. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:01:55 PM EDT
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he said she said . |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:02:30 PM EDT
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Decent jugs.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:03:50 PM EDT
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Why was the dog running around outside unattended?? I swear there’s never any accountability with women.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how many scratches or bites until it's ok to act? Quote HistoryQuoted: "he did not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn." how many scratches or bites until it's ok to act? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:08:28 PM EDT
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I spent ten years going to houses, usually climbing the roofs, and ran into dogs regularly.
Never occurred to me to want to shoot one. I used to snap a photo of them if they got a hold of my shoe or pant leg. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:08:41 PM EDT
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No relation to Heather Harmon, right?
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:09:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why was the dog running around outside unattended?? I swear there’s never any accountability with women. That was my first thought. Keep your large dog contained when you know a stranger is coming over. The people who fail to do this are usually the same ones who stand on their porch yelling at their untrained dog while he’s harassing the visitor or passersby on the street. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:09:56 PM EDT
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I know looks are deceiving but the dog seemed pretty tame. But when a stranger is around they surely can act differently.
Feel bad for the pooch and for the owner. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:10:59 PM EDT
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Came here for the Angie Harmon pics, left disappointed.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:12:27 PM EDT
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ATF with a part time job?
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:14:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't link the photo, but it looks to be a Tibetan Mastiff. Wrong dog. It was the small brown mutt on the left. 
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:14:23 PM EDT
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Sorry but thats the same thing as self defense in a person on person shooting. And the family saying well he didnt have a scratch on him, no booleet holes no nuffin.
 If the dog was a threat then it was a threat. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:14:38 PM EDT
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If the dog was outside was there an option to remain in the car?
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:16:27 PM EDT
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I would not advise emulating this guy’s behavior. Sooner or later, you’re gonna run up against somebody that will kill you for shooting their dog, and standing in someone’s front yard with a gun in your hand, isn’t the best situation in which to negotiate for your life with a traumatized homeowner who is probably better armed than you are.
“Well, Officer, I heard a gunshot, so I grabbed my rifle and went to investigate. I saw the guy coming at me with a gun in his hand, so I fired it self-defense. It looks like he shot my poor dog before he tried to get in my house.” |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:16:38 PM EDT
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Learn to go buy your own groceries. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:17:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know looks are deceiving but the dog seemed pretty tame. But when a stranger is around they surely can act differently. Feel bad for the pooch and for the owner. A clip of the dog at home with family tells you nothing about how it reacts to strangers. Which of the following is more likely? A: Driver who visits the homes of strangers for a living is a psychopath or super scared of dogs and shot the customer’s friendly dog for no reason. B: Dog was untrained and unsocialized and acted aggressively toward a stranger on the property. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:20:10 PM EDT
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Doggone. Thats sad.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:21:09 PM EDT
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Crap like this is why I despise most people, and I ain't talking about Angie.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:21:20 PM EDT
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Cops are now moonlighting as Instacart drivers?
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:23:11 PM EDT
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I wasn’t there, and I don’t know what happened, but automatically calling good shoot when someone shoots a harmless looking dog is pathetic. Did none of you see the video of the cop shooting the friendly lab that was calmly approaching him? Some people really do think they’re billy bad ass because they have a gun in their hand and just can’t wait to kill something. But that’s a two-way street.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:24:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cops are now moonlighting as Instacart drivers?  Andrew Dice Clay - OH! |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:24:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would not advise emulating this guy’s behavior. Sooner or later, you’re gonna run up against somebody that will kill you for shooting their dog, and standing in someone’s front yard with a gun in your hand, isn’t the best situation in which to negotiate for your life with a traumatized homeowner who is probably better armed than you are. “Well, Officer, I heard a gunshot, so I grabbed my rifle and went to investigate. I saw the guy coming at me with a gun in his hand, so I fired it self-defense. It looks like he shot my poor dog before he tried to get in my house.” You make it sound like the driver shoots dogs habitually. What do you suggest as the appropriate response when attacked by a dog in a place you are supposed to be? Let it chew on you? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:25:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how many scratches or bites until it's ok to act? Quote HistoryQuoted: "he did not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn." how many scratches or bites until it's ok to act? Depends on the dog.....6 pound Chihuahua, a lot.....150 pound Rottweiler, zero. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm not sure why people think you have to suffer an injury first before you can defend yourself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "he did not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn." how many scratches or bites until it's ok to act? Because you are on my property where my dog lives. Just because the guy was a pussy and immediately scared because he saw a dog doesn't mean he was actually in a dangerous situation. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:29:10 PM EDT
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She knew a stranger was coming to deliver an item and she still failed to corral her dog. The owner owns the fault.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:31:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She knew a stranger was coming to deliver an item and she still failed to corral her dog. The owner owns the fault. How do you know that? I have a fenced area at my house. There are signs to leave deliveries outside the fence yet consistently people walk past and into the fenced area. Shots fired and my dog hit? You better believe I'm returning fire. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:33:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent ten years going to houses, usually climbing the roofs, and ran into dogs regularly. Never occurred to me to want to shoot one. I used to snap a photo of them if they got a hold of my shoe or pant leg. I spent most of my time going from house to house doing utility work from 2003-2019. I estimate - and this is a conservative estimate - that I encountered ~70,000 dogs in that timeframe. That's ~5,000 per year, or roughly 100 per week, which is only 20 per day. I often encountered 20 in an hour. I was bit, IIRC, 10 times. One pit bull nipped at my pants, one barely broke skin on the back of my thigh, and the rest were itty bitty yap dogs. I probably had another 10 that *INTENDED* to bite me and ran out of chain. There were perhaps 2-3 that I wanted to shoot in all of those years, and -0- that I needed to shoot. I never sprayed a dog with pepper spray, never hit one (ok, I swung at a few and bluffed a LOT of them by holding a stick-shaped piece of my work equipment). Suffice to say that when the cops or anyone else tells me they had to get it on with a dog, I am highly skeptical. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:39:49 PM EDT
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40 replies and no Angie pics?
 
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:41:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe real hero, here. 
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:42:41 PM EDT
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Damn.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:43:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:44:38 PM EDT
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I dont see how you get to claim self defense when you're on their property.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:45:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Collie  Mine. 
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:45:08 PM EDT
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I guess it's too much trouble to call the people you're delivering to and let them know you're worried about a dog? Or even honk a horn?
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:45:56 PM EDT
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Must have been an undercover AFT agent.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:48:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont see how you get to claim self defense when you're on their property. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:49:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You make it sound like the driver shoots dogs habitually. What do you suggest as the appropriate response when attacked by a dog in a place you are supposed to be? Let it chew on you? First of all, there’s zero evidence that he was attacked by the dog. Secondly, you should pay attention to the advice that I am so magnanimously offering. Shooting someone’s dog on their property is a good way to get yourself killed. There are people commenting in this thread, who are supportive of the shooter, and don’t seem to have considered that as a possible outcome. if you come onto my property and fire, a gun with me and my family inside my house, there’s a very good chance you’re going to die. So you better have a very compelling reason to assume that risk. Showing a 20 pound dog who’s boss, probably isn’t a compelling enough reason. |
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