[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Toyota recalls the latest gen Tundra (Page 2 of 5)
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Quoted: Toyota didn't do squat for the 2005 Tacoma that had a weak head gasket that liked to give it up at about 150K. The repair is about $3000 and not done that often, so a good technician to get it done right is hard to find. Or all the frames that rusted that took a class action. |
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Quoted: I am looking for a low mileage '21 LC Heritage Edition to keep stock to supplement my modded '18 Land Cruiser. Attached File I was about to walk over to the sales department at this dealer and scribble some stuff on paperwork and load this one up on my just-emptied transport. ...but it had sold within hours of trade-in. 42k miles. I guess I don't need two LC200s, amirite? |
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I don't wish any manufacturer ill will, and only all the success possible. That said, not gonna lie - I come to these threads to witness the cognitive dissonance, since seemingly so much of at least the very vocal in GD worship all things Toyota to strange degree, IMO. 
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Quoted: Usually the whole engine is condemned if they find metal blown through the lube system. I mean, if you took it in and were paying yourself that would be what they would tell you. Not just Toyota, but pretty much any mfg. Quoted: Quoted: I can tell you that it is all the new generation Tundra and LX years with the twin turbo V6. On Tuesday I was walking through the shop with the service manager at a West Texas Toyota dealer and they had three new generation Tundras on racks. He said they've done 14 engines on 2022, 2023, and 2024 models. One dealer. Another dealer (Northern Arkansas) had seven Tundras on the lot waiting for engines. A Houston Lexus dealer had three LX600 -one with 12,000 miles- need new engines. Finally, the #1 Toyota Tundra dealer in the world? "I've lost count." To compound issues, Toyota is only authorizing short blocks, so techs have to tear down and rebuild engines and they can miss damage. This is why one Tundra forum guy has had three engines. Usually the whole engine is condemned if they find metal blown through the lube system. I mean, if you took it in and were paying yourself that would be what they would tell you. Not just Toyota, but pretty much any mfg. The is ESPECIALLY true with engines that have oil cooled turbos, oil controlled VVT, and oil control timing tensions, etc. More than just oiling the camshaft journals, which is reason enough alone to justify a long block. Don't know if the turbos are oil or water cooled. |
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Quoted: There's a reason I went with the GX460 after they released the Blackline Edition rather than a new 550. It may be an old design, however, that also means it's had the kinks worked out of it. https://nextcloud.fstech.ltd/s/Nso9cPA2ygFHqNt/preview Let’s not pretend that the GX doesn’t suffer from the coolant valley plate leak that’s been going on forever. It’s better than a main bearing letting go. But, as someone who’s owned a GX, it’s far from perfect. |
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Quoted: The is ESPECIALLY true with engines that have oil cooled turbos, oil controlled VVT, and oil control timing tensions, etc. More than just oiling the camshaft journals, which is reason enough alone to justify a long block. Don't know if the turbos are oil or water cooled. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can tell you that it is all the new generation Tundra and LX years with the twin turbo V6. On Tuesday I was walking through the shop with the service manager at a West Texas Toyota dealer and they had three new generation Tundras on racks. He said they've done 14 engines on 2022, 2023, and 2024 models. One dealer. Another dealer (Northern Arkansas) had seven Tundras on the lot waiting for engines. A Houston Lexus dealer had three LX600 -one with 12,000 miles- need new engines. Finally, the #1 Toyota Tundra dealer in the world? "I've lost count." To compound issues, Toyota is only authorizing short blocks, so techs have to tear down and rebuild engines and they can miss damage. This is why one Tundra forum guy has had three engines. Usually the whole engine is condemned if they find metal blown through the lube system. I mean, if you took it in and were paying yourself that would be what they would tell you. Not just Toyota, but pretty much any mfg. The is ESPECIALLY true with engines that have oil cooled turbos, oil controlled VVT, and oil control timing tensions, etc. More than just oiling the camshaft journals, which is reason enough alone to justify a long block. Don't know if the turbos are oil or water cooled. They’re both IIRC. I definitely have a separate cooling system for the Turbo(s). That said, Toyota is replacing everything that oil touches on these engines. Which sucks, because a mechanic is rebuilding the entire engine. I wish Toyota would just give customers a long block. But, that’s not how they’re working this. At least they are working it. |
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Quoted: The is ESPECIALLY true with engines that have oil cooled turbos, oil controlled VVT, and oil control timing tensions, etc. More than just oiling the camshaft journals, which is reason enough alone to justify a long block. Don't know if the turbos are oil or water cooled. |
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Quoted: The advice "Never buy a first year model" even applies to Toyota I guess. I bought a 95.5 year Tacoma. It was a nice truck. They did one or two product recalls, one was an “update” not a recall. They replaced my rear spring packs and all 4 shocks as some people complained they were to soft. That was pretty good. I think another was just to check/inspect something. |
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Quoted: They don't sell a long block. They are replacing the turbos and all of the other stuff during the warranty repairs, just, one part at a time on the repair order. They are oil and coolant cooled turbos. Not quite understanding this explanation. Does the dealer assemble the engine after the truck leaves the factory? Is the short block installed on the framed then assembled on production line? Or is there an engine production line that shoots out engines fully assembled, and ready to be installed on the frame at a separate line? Is there a reason why you can just crate up engines from the line and send them to the dealers? Toyota managed to do that with their shit frames for the last 20 years.... |
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Quoted: There's a reason I went with the GX460 after they released the Blackline Edition rather than a new 550. It may be an old design, however, that also means it's had the kinks worked out of it. https://nextcloud.fstech.ltd/s/Nso9cPA2ygFHqNt/preview Not really. The main issues with the GX 460 is coolant valley plate issues and transmissions. The former has never been addressed by Toyota from the early ones onto the latest ones. They all fail around 100k. The latter could be people not doing fluid swaps but the early ones are losing transmissions at a high rate around the 150k mark. |
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Quoted: Not quite understanding this explanation. Does the dealer assemble the engine after the truck leaves the factory? Is the short block installed on the framed then assembled on production line? Or is there an engine production line that shoots out engines fully assembled, and ready to be installed on the frame at a separate line? Is there a reason why you can just crate up engines from the line and send them to the dealers? Toyota managed to do that with their shit frames for the last 20 years.... |
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That table full of parts when he's talking with the Lexus tech, holy fuck, I could never be a tech, I would lose my shit. Nice LC200. Quoted: My third owner '91 4Runner had head gaskets replaced under warranty in 2007. There is no question that Toyota goes above and beyond. There's a reason they're crazy reliable. Quoted: Quoted: Toyota replaced the dashboards on ‘03 and ‘04 4Runners because of cracking… They issued the recall 12yrs after the fact lol. They replaced mine in 2015 or 16. They have good CS, the dealer dragged their feet, made excuses, for a year. I called Toyota HQ and by the end of the day the dealer had called and set up an appointment and Toyota had a new dash delivered in 24hrs. I don’t like the direction Toy has taken, but I was never unhappy with them. My third owner '91 4Runner had head gaskets replaced under warranty in 2007. There is no question that Toyota goes above and beyond. There's a reason they're crazy reliable. To be fair, 4R owners went after Toyota and complained to the Fed. It wasn't some first two year Gen4 4R's, it was every single dash and all of them came apart in the exact same places. Also, my Gen4 V8 4R was not only a first year, it was the first sellable unit in town, I got 250k miles out of it with no major issues and those didn't pop up until 170k+. I'm curious about this "debris" issue... I don't know if all the motors are made in Japan. But, the Lexus is and the Tundra in the US, kind of sketchy. The LX600 is made in the plant with the LC, people believe that plant is like the mecca of all things Toyota. Wonder if the GX550 will have issues. |
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Quoted: I'm curious about this "debris" issue... I don't know if all the motors are made in Japan. But, the Lexus is and the Tundra in the US, kind of sketchy. The LX600 is made in the plant with the LC, people believe that plant is like the mecca of all things Toyota. Wonder if the GX550 will have issues. I'm not 100% sold on it being as simple as debris. They should have figured that out in less than 2 years of a high rate failures. |
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Quoted: Let’s not pretend that the GX doesn’t suffer from the coolant valley plate leak that’s been going on forever. It’s better than a main bearing letting go. But, as someone who’s owned a GX, it’s far from perfect. Quoted: Quoted: There's a reason I went with the GX460 after they released the Blackline Edition rather than a new 550. It may be an old design, however, that also means it's had the kinks worked out of it. https://nextcloud.fstech.ltd/s/Nso9cPA2ygFHqNt/preview Let’s not pretend that the GX doesn’t suffer from the coolant valley plate leak that’s been going on forever. It’s better than a main bearing letting go. But, as someone who’s owned a GX, it’s far from perfect. That was corrected many years ago from my understanding. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/PXL_20240528_132848316_jpg-3227936.JPG I was about to walk over to the sales department at this dealer and scribble some stuff on paperwork and load this one up on my just-emptied transport. ...but it had sold within hours of trade-in. 42k miles. I guess I don't need two LC200s, amirite? That doesn't look like a legit HE, it has the "chrome" door bumpers... Did you look inside? Does it have the gold stitching? I've been looking at HE's, there are some (A LOT of) sketchy sellers out there. Some are just slapping the badge on and calling it a day, some are going a little further. The stitching is what will give it away because that is something very difficult to fake/add. But, they didn't come with the chrome door bumper things. Those are work to remove on the LC200, there are holes under them, you have to pull them off, patch the door, and paint. |
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https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-recalls-certain-model-year-2022-2023-toyota-tundra-and-lexus-lx-vehicles/ Debris inside the engine...likely what's behind the numerous reports of spun bearings and other major engine failures in the 3rd gen Tundra. |
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Quoted: At least they’re trying to fix it. Most other manufacturers would just say it’s “normal” engine failure. This. If you buy a gen1, expect problems. The difference between Toyota (and Honda), is that they actually fix shit when it's broken. Unlike Ford and Nissan (ask me how I know).... |
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Quoted: Lol, no. All manufacturers have a warranty. Toyota is fucking over their customers actually. Engine fails from spun bearing (twin turbo non the less), the warranty fix is a replacement SHORT block. Body off the frame, engine completely disassembled and rebuilt, and all rushed so they dont have to buy it back under lemon law due to repair time. People are reporting the truck comes back with the cheap ass plastics broken because the techs were rushed to replace the short block. Only to have it fail, because SURPRISE metal in oil gets everywhere in the engine. Quoted: Quoted: At least they're trying to fix it. Most other manufacturers would just say it's "normal" engine failure. Lol, no. All manufacturers have a warranty. Toyota is fucking over their customers actually. Engine fails from spun bearing (twin turbo non the less), the warranty fix is a replacement SHORT block. Body off the frame, engine completely disassembled and rebuilt, and all rushed so they dont have to buy it back under lemon law due to repair time. People are reporting the truck comes back with the cheap ass plastics broken because the techs were rushed to replace the short block. Only to have it fail, because SURPRISE metal in oil gets everywhere in the engine. This is no longer a "warranty" issue. Once NHSTA is noticed, as with the Transmission earlier in the year, the rules change. It's worth noting this isn't a enhanced warranty nor a customer satisfaction program, which expire and have no restrictive components, or statutory duties. Ford production damaged a percentage of 2.3L Rangers, Broncos and Explorers. Ford is replacing engines under CSP 23B52. The notice went to dealers who were encouraged to contact their customers affected. But there's no requirement to do so. The expiration is Oct of '26. Most will fail before, but some buyers will not be notified and if after that date, failures have no requirement to be remedied. (tho I'd like to think Ford would do the right thing). Short block is short sighted, tho there's an indication in the letter there may be a change in remedy. I entirely agree the short block is inadequate. |
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Quoted: The castings for the block will almost certainly all come from the same plant, regardless of where engine assembly happens. I'm not 100% sold on it being as simple as debris. They should have figured that out in less than 2 years of a high rate failures. Quoted: Quoted: I'm curious about this "debris" issue... I don't know if all the motors are made in Japan. But, the Lexus is and the Tundra in the US, kind of sketchy. The LX600 is made in the plant with the LC, people believe that plant is like the mecca of all things Toyota. Wonder if the GX550 will have issues. I'm not 100% sold on it being as simple as debris. They should have figured that out in less than 2 years of a high rate failures. To be fair, the failure rate is sitting just under 0.5% |
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There is no remedy for this yet officially. I just got an email about it this morning. I’m a Toyota parts guy. This new generation has definitely had its issues but we’re working through them and people are really liking them. I will stick with my 18yr old Tacoma.
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well just my luck, bought a 22 tundra 3 weeks ago off the dealers lot with 12000 miles just checked and the truck is part of the recall a new engine would be nice, but I don't have much faith in a local toyota tech pulling and rebuilding a motor and have it come out right. it's a limited and has so much electronics on it, may be the start of a bigger problem also see a recall on the transmission , with a reprogram to fix |
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Quoted: That was corrected many years ago from my understanding. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's a reason I went with the GX460 after they released the Blackline Edition rather than a new 550. It may be an old design, however, that also means it's had the kinks worked out of it. https://nextcloud.fstech.ltd/s/Nso9cPA2ygFHqNt/preview Let’s not pretend that the GX doesn’t suffer from the coolant valley plate leak that’s been going on forever. It’s better than a main bearing letting go. But, as someone who’s owned a GX, it’s far from perfect. That was corrected many years ago from my understanding. No, it wasn’t. Also, I failed to mention it (someone above me did), the transmission. |
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Quoted: The advice "Never buy a first year model" even applies to Toyota I guess. It's applied to many previous engines. 5VZ-FE has a great rep these days. Early versions had head gaskets issues. No recall but many of the 95-97 model years had them replaced even when out of warranty. I have a 96 with 276k on it now and I'm the third owner. Original owner had to have the head gaskets done at 65k. The funny thing is to hear them talk about it, the truck was biggest POS they ever owned and based on the dealer records I have it had a lot of warranty work done. For me, it's been fantastic and not a lick of trouble other than an O2 sensor starting to fail and a rotted muffler but at this age and mileage that's normal. 1GR-FE also has a fantastic rep these days. The 5th gen T4R is regarded as bomb proof. Up until about 2006 they also had head gasket issues. Not quite as prevalent. Don't forget the collapsing motor mounts on the early 2nd gen Tacomas either. The most trouble free new engine they've had has been the 3UR-FE. Even those had some issues very early in production. The one thing Toyota does do right is the issues get resolved. Unlike Ford and GM who just release a new generation that seem to have new problems ontop of carrying the old ones over. |
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Quoted: Toyota didn't do squat for the 2005 Tacoma that had a weak head gasket that liked to give it up at about 150K. The repair is about $3000 and not done that often, so a good technician to get it done right is hard to find. My Tacoma with 3.4L V6 head gaskets replaced free of charge. Maybe your dealer dropped the ball. |
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Quoted: No, it wasn’t. Also, I failed to mention it (someone above me did), the transmission. Transmission issues are likely due to the "Lifetime" transmission fluid (as you mentioned, with people not changing fluid within the first 60k mikes) and the fact that U.S. Lexus GX460's lack the external trans cooler that basically every other market comes factory with in the J150/GX460. I also think, after much research, that Toyota's WS fluid may not be doing these vehicles any favors. Seems folks are seeing great results with Maxlife ATF and Amsoil Signature Series. As far as the coolant valley leak is concerned, it's definitely an annoyance, but most I've seen with this issue have very manageable leaks. I suppose it's the trade off for not needing to replace timing belts every 90k miles like the GX470's had. Also, I believe the beloved 5.7L also suffers similar coolant leaks, as well as oil leaks. (Which makes sense as they are nearly identical designs). |
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Quoted: Interdasting Quoted: Quoted: That doesn't look like a legit HE, it has the "chrome" door bumpers... Did you look inside? Does it have the gold stitching? Interdasting Yeah, I would advise anyone looking at a HE to know exactly what the HE came with and didn’t come with. There is actually less shit in the HE than the regular LC. There sure are a lot for sale considering not a lot were brought to market. But, the gold stitching is the one pretty much no one can fudge. |
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Quoted: This. If you buy a gen1, expect problems. The difference between Toyota (and Honda), is that they actually fix shit when it's broken. Unlike Ford and Nissan (ask me how I know).... i have a gen 1f150 3.5. no issues in 155k miles. i'd suspect someone can't do basic maintenance or read the manual. |
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Quoted:  No, it's not. It's actually one of the slowest half-tons. https://www.zeroto60times.com/body-style/pickup-truck/?yearMin=2017&yearMax=2020&bodyStyle%5B%5D=120&cylinders%5B%5D=8&transmission%5B%5D=Automatic®ion%5B%5D=Domestic Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm with you. I don't think it's a debris issue either. These new engines make a hilarious amount of torque practically off idle. Like it messes with your mind amount. They upped the game on power density per cube. No one seems to give them credit for that. Just the bitching. Locally they've done 2 last I heard. And there's a pile of them around here now. It think it's an architecture issue on some. They'll figure it out at some point. It'll probably require diesel engine lower half thoughts to solve. Mine has about 28k on it. What a fucking riot to drive! Now that it's starting to feel broke in it really fucking moves out. That amount of torque and whip and spur in a stock consumer grade truck is just incredible. We like the tundra so much the wife wants to try out a GX550, maybe get one in a year or two. Cant have an omelette if you don't break a few eggs Have you driven the previous gen Tundra? My ‘21 V8 is sports car fast and especially so when the tow haul sport button is engaged. I don’t believe they could’ve improved performance much and still had a drivable vehicle for most folks. No, it's not. It's actually one of the slowest half-tons. https://www.zeroto60times.com/body-style/pickup-truck/?yearMin=2017&yearMax=2020&bodyStyle%5B%5D=120&cylinders%5B%5D=8&transmission%5B%5D=Automatic®ion%5B%5D=Domestic I have a 2020 tundra. It's embarrassingly slow for a 5.7 V8. A throttle booster really wakes it up though. |
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Quoted: At least they’re trying to fix it. Most other manufacturers would just say it’s “normal” engine failure. Toyota Ignored inverter failures in 2010-2015 Prius,Took a Lawsuit to get them to admit there was a problem. along with oil consumption issues in 2010-13 Prius. They updated the oil rings in 2014 but earlier owners were not remedied. |
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Quoted: Toyota Ignored inverter failures in 2010-2015 Prius,Took a Lawsuit to get them to admit there was a problem. along with oil consumption issues in 2010-13 Prius. They updated the oil rings in 2014 but earlier owners were not remedied. Quoted: Quoted: At least they're trying to fix it. Most other manufacturers would just say it's "normal" engine failure. Toyota Ignored inverter failures in 2010-2015 Prius,Took a Lawsuit to get them to admit there was a problem. along with oil consumption issues in 2010-13 Prius. They updated the oil rings in 2014 but earlier owners were not remedied. The ZE3 warranty extension that went into place '14 or '15 was 15 year unlimited mileage, with the recall update. So to say Toyota ignored the issue . . . The subsequent class action claimed this wasn't good enough tho settlement did create a 20M fund for replacement of failed units and extended the coverage to 20 years unlimited miles. ETA: August of '14 - Attached File |
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Quoted: That doesn't look like a legit HE, it has the "chrome" door bumpers... Did you look inside? Does it have the gold stitching? I've been looking at HE's, there are some (A LOT of) sketchy sellers out there. Some are just slapping the badge on and calling it a day, some are going a little further. The stitching is what will give it away because that is something very difficult to fake/add. But, they didn't come with the chrome door bumper things. Those are work to remove on the LC200, there are holes under them, you have to pull them off, patch the door, and paint. Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/PXL_20240528_132848316_jpg-3227936.JPG I was about to walk over to the sales department at this dealer and scribble some stuff on paperwork and load this one up on my just-emptied transport. ...but it had sold within hours of trade-in. 42k miles. I guess I don't need two LC200s, amirite? That doesn't look like a legit HE, it has the "chrome" door bumpers... Did you look inside? Does it have the gold stitching? I've been looking at HE's, there are some (A LOT of) sketchy sellers out there. Some are just slapping the badge on and calling it a day, some are going a little further. The stitching is what will give it away because that is something very difficult to fake/add. But, they didn't come with the chrome door bumper things. Those are work to remove on the LC200, there are holes under them, you have to pull them off, patch the door, and paint. Pallas is correct. Not a legit HE. Doesn’t have the black side-view mirrors either. I have come across a few people throwing on the HE badging and bronze wheels and calling it a HE. Between that and finding one that doesn’t have an undercoating (e.g. Ziebart) has been a bit of a challenge. |
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Quoted: Pallas is correct. Not a legit HE. Doesn't have the black side-view mirrors either. I have come across a few people throwing on the HE badging and bronze wheels and calling it a HE. Between that and finding one that doesn't have an undercoating (e.g. Ziebart) has been a bit of a challenge. I didn't even catch that. And the dealer had it listed as an Heritage Edition. Listing is gone now. |
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Did some researching on this and holy shit Toyota done fucked up good. This most likely applied to all the turbo 6 engines. The only reason they did not include the 2024 model year is to avoid a stop sell on all of thier inventory. Somewhere someone is about to be beheaded by thier manager while committing seppuku. The fact thay will rebuild with short blocks is going to really piss off a lont of owners.  2022 TOYOTA TUNDRA ENGINES ARE FAILING (HERE'S WHY)  22-23 TOYOTA TUNDRA ENGINE RECALL EXPLAINED  Toyota Tundra 22 engine Failure $28,000.00 |
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Quoted: Did some researching on this and holy shit Toyota done fucked up good. This most likely applied to all the turbo 6 engines. The only reason they did not include the 2024 model year is to avoid a stop sell on all of thier inventory. Somewhere someone is about to be beheaded by thier manager while committing seppuku. The fact thay will rebuild with short blocks is going to really piss off a lont of owners.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHxUoxGOOYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLLJl1sRDbU |
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Quoted: It would be very hard to make any single piece cast cradle like that less stiff than conventional 4 bolt main caps. Most OEMs went to cradles for a lot of their engines ages ago for NVH, and found that engine longevity was a knock-on benefit. Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe it is debris. Some suspect the new main bearing cap design is not rigid enough. Instead of four bolt individual mains like the 5.7 they went to a new cast piece. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/1000011716_png-3227868.JPG It would be very hard to make any single piece cast cradle like that less stiff than conventional 4 bolt main caps. Most OEMs went to cradles for a lot of their engines ages ago for NVH, and found that engine longevity was a knock-on benefit. I think its a design flaw. They DO NOT have priority main oiling. |
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Quoted: Have you driven the previous gen Tundra? My ‘21 V8 is sports car fast and especially so when the tow haul sport button is engaged. I don’t believe they could’ve improved performance much and still had a drivable vehicle for most folks. Quoted: Quoted: I'm with you. I don't think it's a debris issue either. These new engines make a hilarious amount of torque practically off idle. Like it messes with your mind amount. They upped the game on power density per cube. No one seems to give them credit for that. Just the bitching. Locally they've done 2 last I heard. And there's a pile of them around here now. It think it's an architecture issue on some. They'll figure it out at some point. It'll probably require diesel engine lower half thoughts to solve. Mine has about 28k on it. What a fucking riot to drive! Now that it's starting to feel broke in it really fucking moves out. That amount of torque and whip and spur in a stock consumer grade truck is just incredible. We like the tundra so much the wife wants to try out a GX550, maybe get one in a year or two. Cant have an omelette if you don't break a few eggs Have you driven the previous gen Tundra? My ‘21 V8 is sports car fast and especially so when the tow haul sport button is engaged. I don’t believe they could’ve improved performance much and still had a drivable vehicle for most folks. Oh yeah. I put 50k miles on a 17'. Sorry, it's not even close. That 17' was a 14-15mpg truck. The 23' is regularly in the 21-23 mpg range. Far as fast goes.... yeah. Not even close there either. It's a hilariously large difference in the torque the TT makes. They're not even similar driving experiences. Just keeping it real. Im a bit of a Toyota homer these days with 3 yotas in the driveway now. I'm for nostalgia but to say the 5.7 can even be a reasonable comparison would be a bit misleading. I missed my 5.7 for about a day. The 5.7 and the rest of the truck wishes it could be the turbo truck. Probably don't drive a 3.5TT would be my thought. It'll ruin you and you'll just want one. That light throttle driving with the 3.5 feels just like a really really nicely tuned mid 2000s diesel ithat someone spent a lot of money on is what it feels like. It's just impressive as all hell. Toyota nailed the tuning. I wished I could get a higher payload version tundra. If I could match payload and towing with my 05 Cummins I'd shitcan the diesel in a heartbeat. Hopefully they sort out their failures. I think they will. We'll see. |