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Quoted: This. The number of grown ass men who believe in this silly bullshit is astonishing to me. I basically had the same viewpoint about all of this until my early 20's, when I started to notice and experience things that cannot be explained by any other (earthly, human) means. You may very well live to experience something (and not necessarily something that manifests within yourself) that absolutely uproots core aspects of your current understanding of reality. Or not. |
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Quoted: There's nothing a priest can do that any believer with a knowledge of the Bible can't. Well for one OP said to the demon “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ “. And the spirit began laughing. I am reminded of this. Acts 19:13-16 13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15 One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” 16 Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding. Here’s what the Archangel Michael said to Lucifer Jude 1:9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Notice Michael chose his words carefully. He didn’t say “I rebuke you”. Instead it was, “the Lord rebuke you”. This is an important distinction. Personally, I’m not attempting to perform an exorcism. I’ll call a Priest. |
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Quoted: I was infantry in the US Army and my brother was infantry in the USMC. After one if his rough deployments in 2012, he came home and seemed normal until one night we got a call from his wife that he was in the living room of their apartment outside Camp Pendleton and he was noticeably acting different, and she (his wife) was scared, and she called me and my wife to come over. She said his voice was different and he wasn't himself and he was scaring her and the kids. So being a believer in Christ, with still alot to learn about the spiritual realm, I grabbed my Bible and my wife and I went over there. His wife met us outside and said that I should go in there alone and to leave my wife outside. Well I go through the front door and there he is, sitting there, staring at the wall. He's a big guy too, very lean, 240 gunner type. As soon as I walked in, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I felt an energy shift in the room that is difficult to explain. I knew right away we were dealing with a spiritual matter. I sat down next to him and started asking basic questions, and the tone of his voice and the look on his face was NOT him. This voice that came out of was very deep and hoarse and full of anger, and the look on his face was not my brother. It's hard to describe but something was in him. He was having trouble answering basic questions and I didn't know any better than to open the Bible and started reading scriptures out of Mark. As soon as the book opened up he became more angry and I was told numerous times to shut the Bible and not to dare read out of it. I asked why I shouldn't read out of it, I was told that everything in that book is a lie and I shouldn't read fairy tales. Each time something like this was said, it was followed by a loud mocking laughter. So at this point I am convinced I am dealing with the supernatural. The only thing I knew to say was "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus, whatever you are or wherever you came from, you need to leave". All my 'brother' did was laugh, and the laugh got louder and louder and louder. I just kept repeating what I was saying and he finally stopped laughing and looked right into my eyes and said "DO YOU REALLY THINK WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE THAT EASILY"?!!? From this point forward I felt like I stepped into a dream realm, nothing felt real. Almost an out of body experience. I held my ground and kept repeating the name of Jesus and after a few minutes, whatever "it" was, it just left and was gone and I immediately felt it leave. My brother just sat there like he had just came back into his body. He didn't know where or he was or how he got there. It looked like he had just woke up from a deep sleep and was very confused. Whatever demonic spirit it was (I should have asked it's name) was very bold and felt like it had a right to be there. It was strong and would not leave easily, but it eventually did at the name of Jesus. 14 years later I always fall back on that moment to remind myself of the reality of the world we live in. They don't always manifest in such obvious ways. You can see their influence on society if you know what to look for, especially in recent years. Major wake up call for me. Yep, that right there is a good description of demonic manifestation (spiritual, supernatural). We can give the enemy a foothold when we allow any unrepentant sin in our life, yes believers can sin and open a door (legally). There is no authority, nothing greater the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and His shed blood. Mercy triumphs over judgement, the blood has been applied. - For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. ~ James 2:13 I'm glad you had enough discernment to speak the name of Jesus over your brother! There are "Christians" who are afraid or ashamed to mention his name in public and do not believe in the supernatural much less the war going for the souls of men. We have the Holy Spirit for a reason! My brother, keep fighting the good fight of faith... Eta: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you. Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.” ~ Jesus (Luke 10: 18-20) |
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Quoted: Believers have been given all of the power and authority that Jesus had. Luke 10:19 "Behold, I have given you authority to tread on snakes and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy; and nothing will hurt you." It is very real and the enemy does not want you to know that you have this kind of power available to you through Christ. I've seen the demonic flee at the name of Christ. No catholic priest necessary. Quoted: Quoted: 4 posts above yours: “There’s a saying: “Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread”.” Believers have been given all of the power and authority that Jesus had. Luke 10:19 "Behold, I have given you authority to tread on snakes and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy; and nothing will hurt you." It is very real and the enemy does not want you to know that you have this kind of power available to you through Christ. I've seen the demonic flee at the name of Christ. No catholic priest necessary. You really have no idea how wrong you are. I hope for everyone’s sake, there are no children in either home. |
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Truth is, if you believe in God, you have to believe in evil, ghosts, spirits, witches, demons and demonic possessions too. It's all spelled out in the Bible. Always thought ghost / witch / spiritual/ fortune teller believers who didnt believe in God were really odd, hello, those backup gods existance.existence. Because you can be a non-believer in regards to the supernatural, or believer, fine, but if you believe in ANYTHING supernatural, God, or ghosts, its crazy to not admit the OTHER supernatural things god, ghosts, witches, etc can't exist as well. |
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Quoted: You really have no idea how wrong you are. I hope for everyone’s sake, there are no children in either home. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 4 posts above yours: “There’s a saying: “Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread”.” Believers have been given all of the power and authority that Jesus had. Luke 10:19 "Behold, I have given you authority to tread on snakes and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy; and nothing will hurt you." It is very real and the enemy does not want you to know that you have this kind of power available to you through Christ. I've seen the demonic flee at the name of Christ. No catholic priest necessary. You really have no idea how wrong you are. I hope for everyone’s sake, there are no children in either home. You can explain the ignorance you purport, right? The Scriptures are clear on what believers have in Christ. He is right to say He has seen the demonic flee at the name of Jesus. He isn't alone in his observations. Faith pleases God. We walk by faith, not by sight. Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. ~ 1 Peter 5:8-9 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. ~ James 4:7-8 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love. ~ 1 Corinthians 16: 13-14 You may be weak and beggarly in your faith; we are to be strong in our faith, in the Lord Jesus Christ (in Him). The enemy should be under your feet, his head will certainly be crushed soon. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. ~ Romans 16:20 read the Book. |
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Quoted: You can explain the ignorance you purport, right? The Scriptures are clear on what believers have in Christ. He is right to say He has seen the demonic flee at the name of Jesus. He isn't alone in his observations. Faith pleases God. We walk by faith, not by sight. Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. ~ 1 Peter 5:8-9 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. ~ James 4:7-8 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love. ~ 1 Corinthians 16: 13-14 You may be weak and beggarly in your faith; we are to be strong in our faith, in the Lord Jesus Christ (in Him). The enemy should be under your feet, his head will certainly be crushed soon. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. ~ Romans 16:20 read the Book. I’m the ignorant one? Ok. You obviously know more about the subject than me. You read the book. Have at it. Edit: While we’re at it. Why don’t you post up your first hand experiences and length of time involved in such matters. I’ll go first, I’ve first hand dealt with close to 25 individuals that fall into this subject and have close to 30 yrs Esoteric exp working with these things. Aka… I have a working knowledge, I didn’t just read a book and have people “tell me things”. Since I don’t know any better I’ll reiterate, the first call should have been to a psychiatrist. “Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread”. |
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Quoted: Islam is the religion of satan Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, I gotta say maybe being a cop isn't the best job for someone who's been possessed by a demon. Why do you think he was possessed that night? Had he had mental issues before then, that might have weakened his ability to ward them off? Has he had any other similar issues since then? I think he picked up something in Afghanistan. This event happened shortly after he returned. That is truly a wicked country and a God forsaken land. It's not just the people, the land is cursed. You can feel it in some places. Islam is the religion of satan Attached File |
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Quoted: You try to incite fear, familiar tactic. Sure. If that’s what you feel. I’ll tell you what, please use his technique on something akin to the Clavicula Salominis. Just ignore the preparatory descriptions, and only do his. Make sure and be thorough and work through the whole thing. Let me know how it turns out. |
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Once one accepts Christ they get a discernment that is unparalleled. A house cannot serve 2 masters so once someone is saved possession is out the window but everyone is susceptible to the influence of Evil. Worse is evil is championed as good by secular society today. Jesus dealt with the Devil in the wilderness using one of the shortest chapters in the Bible "Deuteronomy" evil doesn't like hearing about what God has written. "This Present Darkness" is a great book that shows how the spiritual war is raging around us. 2020 accelerated the Great Divide, mankind has no more excuses for "not knowing the difference between Good and Evil". |
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Quoted: This. The number of grown ass men who believe in this silly bullshit is astonishing to me. Quoted: Quoted: TBI---->mental health disorder. The boy needed treatment, not prayers. This. The number of grown ass men who believe in this silly bullshit is astonishing to me. Go ahead and think that foolish person THIS SHIT IS REAL! |
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Quoted: He's had a rough go man. He went on to become a police officer and did that for 4 years I think that did more harm to him than anything. He recently just went through a divorce. He's tough though he's very successful in business but he has a fractured personal life. I feel for him. He's doing okay though Quoted: Quoted: Good on you for posting this OP, how is your Brother doing? Evil is very real in our world He's had a rough go man. He went on to become a police officer and did that for 4 years I think that did more harm to him than anything. He recently just went through a divorce. He's tough though he's very successful in business but he has a fractured personal life. I feel for him. He's doing okay though Make be that's the weakness It exploited. |
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Quoted: Oh it is real, and it is all there. Unfortunately my belief is that modern religion makes a mockery of the bible. Believe in the bible and Christ and you will be in good hands. You don't necessarily need a church to do this. No, but finding a community of believers is powerful. |
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Quoted: There's nothing a priest can do that any believer with a knowledge of the Bible can't. Quoted: Quoted: He needs to get an exorcism from a priest. Seriously OP, if you care about your brother, he needs help. https://youtu.be/I2p_cfipbEw There's nothing a priest can do that any believer with a knowledge of the Bible can't. TRUE 100% |
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Quoted: I’m the ignorant one? Ok. You obviously know more about the subject than me. You read the book. Have at it. Edit: While we’re at it. Why don’t you post up your first hand experiences and length of time involved in such matters. I’ll go first, I’ve first hand dealt with close to 25 individuals that fall into this subject and have close to 30 yrs Esoteric exp working with these things. Aka… I have a working knowledge, I didn’t just read a book and have people “tell me things”. Since I don’t know any better I’ll reiterate, the first call should have been to a psychiatrist. “Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread”. After the blood was shed for the remission of our sins, there was no more fear, no more scared sacrifice. Cain and Able are now a fable. Once you are saved, the Bible says you are a new creature, you are whole. I feel whole. |
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Quoted: I used to be in the same camp as you, until 10 years ago, when my then wife became involved in the New Age spirituality movement and started dabbling in the occult. It did not end well and what I experienced changed my beliefs. More recently, a colleague took his life, and while I wasn’t present , his best friend was, and maintains he was possessed. He clearly has PTSD from what he saw. The demonic is real. Quoted: Quoted: TBI---->mental health disorder. The boy needed treatment, not prayers. I used to be in the same camp as you, until 10 years ago, when my then wife became involved in the New Age spirituality movement and started dabbling in the occult. It did not end well and what I experienced changed my beliefs. More recently, a colleague took his life, and while I wasn’t present , his best friend was, and maintains he was possessed. He clearly has PTSD from what he saw. The demonic is real. PTSD is made up man science. |
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Quoted: Indeed Quoted: Quoted: Once you have seen proof of the beyond you know. Proof is something that robs you of faith. I’ve told the story here before, I had a NDE in 2006 that fucked me up for years, and probably still does. Caused my divorce, almost lost my job, lost friends, it changed me completely. That ~10 seconds split my life into before and after. I spent a couple of years seeing a specialized psychologist who wrote books on the subject. Like any good man, I just learned to eat it. Nothing changed until I realized that the first sentence in this post was the problem. I saw a priest last year and returned fully into The Church. I feel like I have my life back after 20 years. I’m a seriously stubborn mofo. Although I still feel like I know things I shouldn’t know, he helped me find my faith again, and I will be eternally grateful for that. |
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Quoted: I believe you are only partially correct. There's nothing a priest can do that a believer with a knowledge of the Bible AND who has been sent by God cannot. Note carefully the "sent by God" part. If you as a Christian HAVE in fact been sent by God you have nothing to fear, all the powers of hell can not and will not prevail against you--but a lot of lay people (read: immature Christians) in Deliverance ministry have NOT been sent by God, they are working out of their own vanity and ego. Authority is a very real thing. Parents have authority over their children, husbands over wives, pastors over their flock--this has been ordained by God, and authority comes with it. A duly appointed Roman Catholic exorcist does his work under orders and by the explicit Authority vested in him/granted formally to him by the Bishop of his diocese, and that Authority is ONLY valid within the geographical confines of that diocese. To perform an exorcism elsewhere, that priest must seek the formal assent of the local Bishop. OP had authority over his brother's spiritual well-being because he loves him, and they are blood. I'll also guess that he is the elder of the two, and has always had and/or sensed a heavenly-ordained position of spiritual life/example over and in his brother's life. My personal belief/experience has led me to believe that if God has NOT sent you into a given situation, if it is your vanity or your ego or your sense of spiritual hubris, if you stray outside of your authority you can and will be utterly crushed. God has a plan, and scandalous as it sounds satan has rights and authorities, never forget that, and if you try to impose YOUR naive human will into a situation outside of your sphere of authority you would be better off trying to effect a one-man's citizen's arrest of a drug lord. You can pray for anybody--intercessory prayer is a beautiful gift--but ask that GOD's will be done, that GOD by his power and Authority glorify HIS Name, and provide a miracle to gladden the hearts of his People. Good on you, OP. Keep praying for your brother--and stand in proxy for him whenever you can for healing prayer. Always ask him for his formal assent--will you allow ME to stand in proxy for you--essentially he has conveyed to you (and your faith) a spiritual Power of Attorney. He has given you that authority--to seek healing on his behalf. This is a very powerful spiritual tool. It works like gangbusters. Authority is only valid if it is valid authority. The Catholic church has done some heinous things in the past. Christ no longer (or never did) reside there, and therefore Papal assertions of authority are null, but He loves all who have faith in Him and allows us a portion of His authority to act in His name within this plane if it is His will. Christ ultimately fills the authority gap, and personal righteousness plays a part as well. My belief is that it's faith in Christ that activates, not the church, and He loves us so much that he doesn't really care which denomination you belong to as long as you believe in Him and act as He would. That's why many within the umbrella of Christianity (and the umbrella is broader than traditionalists think) experience the truth of Christ. |
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Quoted: Sure. If that’s what you feel. I’ll tell you what, please use his technique on something akin to the Clavicula Salominis. Just ignore the preparatory descriptions, and only do his. Make sure and be thorough and work through the whole thing. Let me know how it turns out. Quoted: Quoted: You try to incite fear, familiar tactic. Sure. If that’s what you feel. I’ll tell you what, please use his technique on something akin to the Clavicula Salominis. Just ignore the preparatory descriptions, and only do his. Make sure and be thorough and work through the whole thing. Let me know how it turns out. So, what specifically are you practicing ? You mention dealings with these types of things |
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Quoted: So, what specifically are you practicing ? You mention dealings with these types of things Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You try to incite fear, familiar tactic. Sure. If that’s what you feel. I’ll tell you what, please use his technique on something akin to the Clavicula Salominis. Just ignore the preparatory descriptions, and only do his. Make sure and be thorough and work through the whole thing. Let me know how it turns out. So, what specifically are you practicing ? You mention dealings with these types of things Esoteric Qaballah, unfortunately despite working along lines that don’t focus on them, after enough time it is inevitable to encounter them. Everyone here assumes they automatically respond to the Bible because they’ve been taught it’s the only way, not realizing, that may not be the way the thing you’re dealing with sees it. Which results in any form of Christianity or the Bible being moot. Angels and Demons are not “Beings” in the sense mainstream nomenclature has you believe. They are Intelligences. |
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Quoted: Sure. If that’s what you feel. I’ll tell you what, please use his technique on something akin to the Clavicula Salominis. Just ignore the preparatory descriptions, and only do his. Make sure and be thorough and work through the whole thing. Let me know how it turns out. If I have eternal life to look forward to, what is there to fear? My God says to fear Him, who else is there to fear. Where can my fear stop? |
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I was going to mention he needs to consult a Catholic diocese, even if not saved. Fr Chad Ripperger is the best exorcist in the country. You can watch his YouTube videos and they are very informative. I plan on ordering this book he wrote. There are many cases now in this country and some are real demonic possessions. Demons have a hierarchy and getting the higher level ones out needs intervention from an exorcist. Jesus said to his disciples they can cast out demons, but didn't say they can cast out ALL demons. Warch some of Fr Ripperger's YouTube videos to get an idea of what to do. |
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Quoted: If I have eternal life to look forward to, what is there to fear? My God says to fear Him, who else is there to fear. Where can my fear stop? Quoted: Quoted: Sure. If that’s what you feel. I’ll tell you what, please use his technique on something akin to the Clavicula Salominis. Just ignore the preparatory descriptions, and only do his. Make sure and be thorough and work through the whole thing. Let me know how it turns out. If I have eternal life to look forward to, what is there to fear? My God says to fear Him, who else is there to fear. Where can my fear stop? Define what Spiritual Fear means to you. |
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Quoted: No, but finding a community of believers is powerful. This is very important in my opinion. My closest friends are all born again. We can openly talk about Jesus without ridicule or shame. I have learned so much from them and it has helped bring me closer to Jesus and my personal relationship with Him. |
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Quoted: I’m the ignorant one? Ok. You obviously know more about the subject than me. You read the book. Have at it. Edit: While we’re at it. Why don’t you post up your first hand experiences and length of time involved in such matters. I’ll go first, I’ve first hand dealt with close to 25 individuals that fall into this subject and have close to 30 yrs Esoteric exp working with these things. Aka… I have a working knowledge, I didn’t just read a book and have people “tell me things”. Since I don’t know any better I’ll reiterate, the first call should have been to a psychiatrist. “Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread”. Quoted: Quoted: You can explain the ignorance you purport, right? The Scriptures are clear on what believers have in Christ. He is right to say He has seen the demonic flee at the name of Jesus. He isn't alone in his observations. Faith pleases God. We walk by faith, not by sight. Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. ~ 1 Peter 5:8-9 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. ~ James 4:7-8 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love. ~ 1 Corinthians 16: 13-14 You may be weak and beggarly in your faith; we are to be strong in our faith, in the Lord Jesus Christ (in Him). The enemy should be under your feet, his head will certainly be crushed soon. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. ~ Romans 16:20 read the Book. I’m the ignorant one? Ok. You obviously know more about the subject than me. You read the book. Have at it. Edit: While we’re at it. Why don’t you post up your first hand experiences and length of time involved in such matters. I’ll go first, I’ve first hand dealt with close to 25 individuals that fall into this subject and have close to 30 yrs Esoteric exp working with these things. Aka… I have a working knowledge, I didn’t just read a book and have people “tell me things”. Since I don’t know any better I’ll reiterate, the first call should have been to a psychiatrist. “Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread”. Yes, sometimes it is physiological/ and spiritual. I'm calling on the great physician. Who do you believe created man and all things? The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth. Do you believe that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God or not? The Church is built on this revelation. Length of time? Some kinds cannot be driven out by anything but prayer. Sometimes in faith and obedience just the mention of His name they flee. I can't put trust in an 'esoteric kabbala', my faith is in Jesus Christ. He set me free. ..."John answered, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not follow with us.” But Jesus said to him, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.” ~ (Luke 9:49-50 ESV) "Christ in you, the hope of glory" |
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Thank you for sharing OP. As a Believer, I have been scared of the Evil in our World since I was a kid. I will not knowingly mess with it. We lived in Africa for almost 20 years in Equatorial Guinea and Nigeria. There are strong Christian Believers there but there is also Tribal beliefs and that is where Voodoo came from. Evil is real. Again, thank you for sharing and I hope all is well with your Brother. |
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Quoted: Yes, sometimes it is physiological/ and spiritual. I'm calling on the great physician. Who do you believe created man and all things? The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth. Do you believe that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God or not? The Church is built on this revelation. Length of time? Some kinds cannot be driven out by anything but prayer. Sometimes in faith and obedience just the mention of His name they flee. I can't put trust in an 'esoteric kabbala', my faith is in Jesus Christ. He set me free. ..."John answered, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not follow with us.” But Jesus said to him, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.” ~ (Luke 9:49-50 ESV) "Christ in you, the hope of glory" Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You can explain the ignorance you purport, right? The Scriptures are clear on what believers have in Christ. He is right to say He has seen the demonic flee at the name of Jesus. He isn't alone in his observations. Faith pleases God. We walk by faith, not by sight. Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. ~ 1 Peter 5:8-9 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. ~ James 4:7-8 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love. ~ 1 Corinthians 16: 13-14 You may be weak and beggarly in your faith; we are to be strong in our faith, in the Lord Jesus Christ (in Him). The enemy should be under your feet, his head will certainly be crushed soon. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. ~ Romans 16:20 read the Book. I’m the ignorant one? Ok. You obviously know more about the subject than me. You read the book. Have at it. Edit: While we’re at it. Why don’t you post up your first hand experiences and length of time involved in such matters. I’ll go first, I’ve first hand dealt with close to 25 individuals that fall into this subject and have close to 30 yrs Esoteric exp working with these things. Aka… I have a working knowledge, I didn’t just read a book and have people “tell me things”. Since I don’t know any better I’ll reiterate, the first call should have been to a psychiatrist. “Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread”. Yes, sometimes it is physiological/ and spiritual. I'm calling on the great physician. Who do you believe created man and all things? The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth. Do you believe that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God or not? The Church is built on this revelation. Length of time? Some kinds cannot be driven out by anything but prayer. Sometimes in faith and obedience just the mention of His name they flee. I can't put trust in an 'esoteric kabbala', my faith is in Jesus Christ. He set me free. ..."John answered, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not follow with us.” But Jesus said to him, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.” ~ (Luke 9:49-50 ESV) "Christ in you, the hope of glory" You do understand that the Kaballah is derived from the Bible? I do however apologize, I am nothing more than a mere Neophyte who each day steps foot on his journey anew. Please forgive my mistake in misunderstanding one who has achieved the spiritual loftiness such as you possess. My goal is to simply achieve a glimpse of Eden, much less the abode of Heaven, in this life. Mighty is he who can, with the wave of a hand, command spirits to depart at will. I’m am sure a special place awaits you in the life beyond. |
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Quoted: You do understand that the Kaballah is derived from the Bible? I do however apologize, I am nothing more than a mere Neophyte who each day steps foot on his journey anew. Please forgive my mistake in misunderstanding one who has achieved the spiritual loftiness such as you possess. My goal is to simply achieve a glimpse of Eden, much less the abode of Heaven, in this life. Mighty is he who can, with the wave of a hand, command spirits to depart at will. I’m am sure a special place awaits you in the life beyond. Now that is funny, my fellow believer. The joy of the Lord is my strength. Eta: I do not understand the kaballah |
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Quoted: I don't believe it is real. But I also don't judge people who think it is real. Just try to live the best life I can. Nobody is perfect. And because of this many Christians believe I will suffer for an eternity. Do you want to? I don't want that for you..or anybody. |
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Quoted: I don't believe it is real. But I also don't judge people who think it is real. Just try to live the best life I can. Nobody is perfect. And because of this many Christians believe I will suffer for an eternity. I’m a Christian and humble enough to admit only God knows how judgment will go. While I truly hope you will come to Christ, I certainly won’t tell you “I know”. Peace to you brother! |
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Quoted: Now that is funny, my fellow believer. The joy of the Lord is my strength. Eta: I do not understand the kaballah Quoted: Quoted: You do understand that the Kaballah is derived from the Bible? I do however apologize, I am nothing more than a mere Neophyte who each day steps foot on his journey anew. Please forgive my mistake in misunderstanding one who has achieved the spiritual loftiness such as you possess. My goal is to simply achieve a glimpse of Eden, much less the abode of Heaven, in this life. Mighty is he who can, with the wave of a hand, command spirits to depart at will. I’m am sure a special place awaits you in the life beyond. Now that is funny, my fellow believer. The joy of the Lord is my strength. Eta: I do not understand the kaballah The Kaballah is the study of the Tree of Life, where as the Bible is of the Tree of Good and Evil. |
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Quoted: Several decades ago my wife and I had recently accepted Christ as Lord and Savior and one day I was at the kitchen table reading and my wife was at the kitchen sink preparing supper when all of a sudden I felt a cold ominous presence in the room and I looked up toward my wife and she turned and looked at me and I said "did you feel that" and she said yes. We immediately joined hands and prayed for the spirit to leave in the name of Jesus and it did. Quoted: Several decades ago my wife and I had recently accepted Christ as Lord and Savior and one day I was at the kitchen table reading and my wife was at the kitchen sink preparing supper when all of a sudden I felt a cold ominous presence in the room and I looked up toward my wife and she turned and looked at me and I said "did you feel that" and she said yes. We immediately joined hands and prayed for the spirit to leave in the name of Jesus and it did. After I had accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior, I was walking from the bedroom of the apartment I lived in at the time to the kitchen to get a drink. As I'm walking through the living room, I hear a deep, raspy voice loudly calling out my name. Knowing that was Satan or one of his demons, I didn't stop, didn't turn my head, but just kept walking. Evil is real. Quoted: Islam is the religion of satan There's a not widely accepted school of thought that the Anti Christ will come out of Islam. So far, the stuff I've read and seen on it makes me thinks its possible. I need to do more research. |