User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 11:22:24 AM EDT
[#1]
I'd love to be able to get FN lowers too but the lower is basically what everyone who wants this ultimately is paying the premium for. They know if you could just buy the lower you could build essentially the same clone for almost half what they're asking for a complete rifle.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 12:52:02 PM EDT
[#2]
The read that the regular fn ar15's didn't even have the military parts in them like the bcg and buffer tube and what not. I wonder if thats true and what these have for parts in them.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 6:02:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The read that the regular fn ar15's didn't even have the military parts in them like the bcg and buffer tube and what not. I wonder if thats true and what these have for parts in them. Good point. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 8:47:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
How about a better pic of the rollmark? Find an image of the left side of an FN M16. The logo looks like that. An "F" on top of an "N", inside of an oval, all single line. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 9:01:44 PM EDT
[#5]
My last service rifle was an FN.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 9:16:55 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
My last service rifle was an FN. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zpsbca520e7.jpg http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zps06efad6b.jpg They won't have the cage code or the property markings. They do have the little 3d code tags though. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 9:31:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They won't have the cage code or the property markings. They do have the little 3d code tags though. Quote HistoryQuoted: They won't have the cage code or the property markings. They do have the little 3d code tags though. They have a cage code. Almost all firearm companies have a cage code. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:13:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
My last service rifle was an FN. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zpsbca520e7.jpg http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zps06efad6b.jpg Can anyone explain why there is a metal spacer between the lower and the grip? I've never seen that before. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:23:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Can anyone explain why there is a metal spacer between the lower and the grip? I've never seen that before. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
My last service rifle was an FN. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zpsbca520e7.jpg http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zps06efad6b.jpg Can anyone explain why there is a metal spacer between the lower and the grip? I've never seen that before. Ghetto way of rectifying a too long grip screw would be my guess? |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:27:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Well shit. I'll have to go to their "Pro Store" that's just around the corner from the house for a good laugh at these prices in person.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:29:27 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryI could do 8 or 9. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:33:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
They have a cage code. Almost all firearm companies have a cage code. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
My last service rifle was an FN. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zpsbca520e7.jpg http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zps06efad6b.jpg They won't have the cage code or the property markings. They do have the little 3d code tags though. They have a cage code. Almost all firearm companies have a cage code. You misread me. I mean their cage code and property markings are not on the collectors edition guns as they are on the M16s they supply to the government. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:36:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Can anyone explain why there is a metal spacer between the lower and the grip? I've never seen that before. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
My last service rifle was an FN. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zpsbca520e7.jpg http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zps06efad6b.jpg Can anyone explain why there is a metal spacer between the lower and the grip? I've never seen that before. The metal spacer typically has a little leg that stops the selector from moving to to the auto or burst position. It is a way to keep the guns semi only without having to fuck with the fire control group. It appears that the little leg broke off the one pictured. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:45:15 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $1600 is the MAP. FN won't let a dealer sell under $1600 if they want to keep being a dealer. I'm sure the average price will be $1700-$1750 |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 10:59:54 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You misread me. I mean their cage code and property markings are not on the collectors edition guns as they are on the M16s they supply to the government. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They won't have the cage code or the property markings. They do have the little 3d code tags though. They have a cage code. Almost all firearm companies have a cage code. You misread me. I mean their cage code and property markings are not on the collectors edition guns as they are on the M16s they supply to the government. Nope...  However, I do beleive they are not marked US Property. I think they say FNH RIFLE CAL 5.56x45MM NATO FN12345678 I don't know what FNMI's cage code is for the M16A4s. I would beleive FNHs cage code would be different. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 11:03:30 PM EDT
[#16]
The metal spacer typically has a little leg that stops the selector from moving to to the auto or burst position. It is a way to keep the guns semi only without having to fuck with the fire control group.
It appears that the little leg broke off the one pictured. This. They break of very easily from the handling of clumsy supply guys. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 11:09:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
$1600 is the MAP. FN won't let a dealer sell under $1600 if they want to keep being a dealer. I'm sure the average price will be $1700-$1750 
I'll just buy a SCAR at that price for a couple hundo more. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 11:20:07 PM EDT
[#18]
I'll take two 6920s instead.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 11:35:36 PM EDT
[#19]
n/m
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 11:43:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Who would want that plate?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/3/2015 11:47:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who would want that plate? |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 9:07:26 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nope... <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/FB_IMG_1446605580231_zps8on9ouru.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/FB_IMG_1446605580231_zps8on9ouru.jpg</a> However, I do beleive they are not marked US Property. I think they say FNH RIFLE CAL 5.56x45MM NATO FN12345678 I don't know what FNMI's cage code is for the M16A4s. I would beleive FNHs cage code would be different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
My last service rifle was an FN. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zpsbca520e7.jpg http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/guns/photo_zps06efad6b.jpg They won't have the cage code or the property markings. They do have the little 3d code tags though. They have a cage code. Almost all firearm companies have a cage code. You misread me. I mean their cage code and property markings are not on the collectors edition guns as they are on the M16s they supply to the government. Nope... <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/FB_IMG_1446605580231_zps8on9ouru.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/FB_IMG_1446605580231_zps8on9ouru.jpg</a> However, I do beleive they are not marked US Property. I think they say FNH RIFLE CAL 5.56x45MM NATO FN12345678 I don't know what FNMI's cage code is for the M16A4s. I would beleive FNHs cage code would be different. You are still misreading me, though at this point it really doesn't matter. Let me put it how I should have to begin with: The logo that is machined on the collector lowers looks like the logo stamped on the government lowers. The rest of the markings are different. And yes, their cage code is their cage code. It doesn't change. You don't have a picture of the selector markings on that collector gun, do you? |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 9:55:59 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Find an image of the left side of an FN M16. The logo looks like that. An "F" on top of an "N", inside of an oval, all single line. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about a better pic of the rollmark? Find an image of the left side of an FN M16. The logo looks like that. An "F" on top of an "N", inside of an oval, all single line. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:07:04 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I know what an FN M16 looks like, but that is no guarantee that the commercial version is rollmarked (it might be laser engraved or something stupid). Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
How about a better pic of the rollmark? Find an image of the left side of an FN M16. The logo looks like that. An "F" on top of an "N", inside of an oval, all single line. All the markings on them were CNC engraved. In the interest of full disclosure, I have already seen these first-hand. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:11:06 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are still misreading me, though at this point it really doesn't matter. Let me put it how I should have to begin with: The logo that is machined on the collector lowers looks like the logo stamped on the government lowers. The rest of the markings are different. And yes, their cage code is their cage code. It doesn't change. You don't have a picture of the selector markings on that collector gun, do you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They won't have the cage code or the property markings. They do have the little 3d code tags though. They have a cage code. Almost all firearm companies have a cage code. You misread me. I mean their cage code and property markings are not on the collectors edition guns as they are on the M16s they supply to the government. Nope... >>>>>>><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/FB_IMG_1446605580231_zps8on9ouru.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/FB_IMG_1446605580231_zps8on9ouru.jpg</a><<<<<<<< However, I do beleive they are not marked US Property. I think they say FNH RIFLE CAL 5.56x45MM NATO FN12345678 I don't know what FNMI's cage code is for the M16A4s. I would beleive FNHs cage code would be different. You are still misreading me, though at this point it really doesn't matter. Let me put it how I should have to begin with: The logo that is machined on the collector lowers looks like the logo stamped on the government lowers. The rest of the markings are different. And yes, their cage code is their cage code. It doesn't change. You don't have a picture of the selector markings on that collector gun, do you? You started off talking about how they don't have cage codes, and I showed you a pic that they do/will have cage codes....then your saying that's not what your talking about. Instead you're talking about the area under the logo, which I've already said what it looks like.  |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:11:46 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
$1600 is the MAP. FN won't let a dealer sell under $1600 if they want to keep being a dealer. I'm sure the average price will be $1700-$1750 You know that's not how MAP works right? |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:15:51 AM EDT
[#28]
If they were around a grand I'd be all over one.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:17:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Great Caesar's Ghost!
Those prices... |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:21:16 AM EDT
[#30]
The price is so wrong it makes it unrealistic. I could see them being $1,000-$1,100 as a realistic price point. Coming in $100-$200 over that would make me say "Damn, that's a little pricey. But... I still may have to." $1,600+++ isn't even laughable, it's just wtf were they thinking?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:35:13 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryYeah, I realize it was unclear. I was trying to say that the logo is really the only marking that's the same as the government guns. Everything else is formatted differently, missing like the property marks, and the cage isn't stamped on the left of the receiver but rather on the 3d tag. Sorry for the confusion. I was making half ass posts. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:41:03 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I realize it was unclear. I was trying to say that the logo is really the only marking that's the same as the government guns. Everything else is formatted differently, missing like the property marks, and the cage isn't stamped on the left of the receiver but rather on the 3d tag. Sorry for the confusion. I was making half ass posts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I realize it was unclear. I was trying to say that the logo is really the only marking that's the same as the government guns. Everything else is formatted differently, missing like the property marks, and the cage isn't stamped on the left of the receiver but rather on the 3d tag. Sorry for the confusion. I was making half ass posts. Our M16A4s didn't have any thing stamped on the left of the receiver except for the safe/semi/burst. This was just before data matrix labels came about. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 10:46:34 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Our M16A4s didn't have any thing stamped on the left of the receiver except for the safe/semi/burst. This was just before data matrix labels came about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Yeah, I realize it was unclear. I was trying to say that the logo is really the only marking that's the same as the government guns. Everything else is formatted differently, missing like the property marks, and the cage isn't stamped on the left of the receiver but rather on the 3d tag. Sorry for the confusion. I was making half ass posts. Our M16A4s didn't have any thing stamped on the left of the receiver except for the safe/semi/burst. This was just before data matrix labels came about. Oh really? I thought FN always roll stamped the cage code on the left side of the receiver with their plant location, just above the hammer and trigger pins. "data matrix labels". One of my former customers referred to then as 3d tags forever ago, and i have always incorrectly called them that since then. |
|
|
|
Posted: 11/4/2015 12:26:05 PM EDT
[#34]
I dont understand why firearms companies don't use real rollmarks. They look so much better than engravings.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
