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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:43:00 AM EDT
Was looking at this site http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/interactives/gunlaws/ , checking out gun laws by state.  Got confused with MO, it says you have to have a permit to buy a pistol...but it's only good for 90 days.  Is that right, seems it would be a pain in the ass if you purchased many, is it free at least?
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:44:31 AM EDT
New one on me.  
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Good, figured info from that site may be wrong.  So no permits then?
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:46:22 AM EDT
That's old and outdated.  Used to be you had to go to the sheriff and get a permit to purchase then go buy your gun.  PITA.



That changed about 5+ years ago.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:47:42 AM EDT
That changed in either 2007 or 8, I can't remember. No permits now.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:49:06 AM EDT
It was a Jim Crow law from way back. At first, the only important question on the form was "race." A certain MO gun rights group was pushing for repeal of the "Permit to Acquire a Concealable Firearm" or PTA, and long story short, a legislator from St. Louis claimed that the law was never racist, and it was never used to deny rights to anybody based on race. Then a black man testified about being denied a PTA in St. Louis due to his race. The bill passed, and the PTA was repealed.

That was several years ago. 2007 or 2008 I think.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 11:58:59 AM EDT
Glad to hear it was repealed.  I've been looking, and there are some crazy permit restrictions on some states...well, used to be I guess, since that site is outdated.  I was looking to try and find stuff on my state, some sites say you don't need a CCW to carry, some say you do.  I think I'll keep mine, just so I can carry in other states too.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:54:14 PM EDT
Fuck the websites, read the statutes.

The judge will not be impressed by the argument, "But such-and-such a website said I didn't need one."
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 12:57:54 PM EDT
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Fuck the websites, read the statutes.

The judge will not be impressed by the argument, "But such-and-such a website said I didn't need one."
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I've got my CCL, I was just curious...not curious enough to look up the statutes, just curious enough to perform a cursory search online.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:00:05 PM EDT
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I've got my CCL, I was just curious...not curious enough to look up the statutes, just curious enough to perform a cursory search online.
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Originally Posted By Him:
Fuck the websites, read the statutes.

The judge will not be impressed by the argument, "But such-and-such a website said I didn't need one."


I've got my CCL, I was just curious...not curious enough to look up the statutes, just curious enough to perform a cursory search online.


The more the merrier.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:04:21 PM EDT

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It was a Jim Crow law from way back. At first, the only important question on the form was "race." A certain MO gun rights group was pushing for repeal of the "Permit to Acquire a Concealable Firearm" or PTA, and long story short, a legislator from St. Louis claimed that the law was never racist, and it was never used to deny rights to anybody based on race. Then a black man testified about being denied a PTA in St. Louis due to his race. The bill passed, and the PTA was repealed.



That was several years ago. 2007 or 2008 I think.
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this and its alive and well in nc



 
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:06:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By topknot:
That's old and outdated.  Used to be you had to go to the sheriff and get a permit to purchase then go buy your gun.  PITA.

That changed about 5+ years ago.
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sometimes it was a swift process, but jackson county (kansas city) took like a week.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:08:28 PM EDT
It was a huge pain in the ass, and the counties didn't know their own laws.

It was enough to cause me to switch residency.
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That's old and outdated.  Used to be you had to go to the sheriff and get a permit to purchase then go buy your gun.  PITA.



That changed about 5+ years ago.
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Yep.  Man, I hated that routine.



A long time ago I turned in my application for a Permit To Purchase to a deputy.  He said "3 or 4 days, maybe".



Then he noticed I worked at the same cop shop where I was buying the pistola...........



"Say, do you have any S&W (whatever) in stock?"



"Yes.  I'll put your name on one."



Had my Permit To Purchase as fast as that mofo could print it up.  





 
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:18:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aiden:


I've got my CCL, I was just curious...not curious enough to look up the statutes, just curious enough to perform a cursory search online.
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Originally Posted By Aiden:
Originally Posted By Him:
Fuck the websites, read the statutes.

The judge will not be impressed by the argument, "But such-and-such a website said I didn't need one."


I've got my CCL, I was just curious...not curious enough to look up the statutes, just curious enough to perform a cursory search online.



A website I use often when traveling out of my state and updated several times a week:

http://www.handgunlaws.us

has hot-links to state statues.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:21:52 PM EDT
The best story ever was from my home county. Sheriff didn't think anyone but cops should be allowed to have anything but a .22 handgun. One of his requirements for a permit from his county for a centerfire handgun was you provide a letter from your spouse saying it was ok for you to buy one. I kid you not.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:28:45 PM EDT
This explains the outdated information:

Compiled by Caitlin McDevitt; edited by Laura Cochran and David P. Marino-Nachison; designed by Alyson Hurt. Data from the National Rifle Association, Brady Campaign, state and other law enforcement sources, and interviews. (Last updated: June 26, 2008)
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Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:38:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By topknot:
That's old and outdated.  Used to be you had to go to the sheriff and get a permit to purchase then go buy your gun.  PITA.

That changed about 5+ years ago.
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agreed
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:40:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:46:31 PM EDT
What is the purpose of a waiting period anyway, I've never understood that.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:48:58 PM EDT
That website is outdated by 5 or 6 years.

Guns & Ammo last year ranked the best states for gun rights and MO was in the top 10.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/03/14/ga-ranks-the-best-states-for-gun-owners-in-2013/
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:54:18 PM EDT
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The best story ever was from my home county. Sheriff didn't think anyone but cops should be allowed to have anything but a .22 handgun.
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They pulled that shit in Hartford for many, many years, and they got away with it, until a law was passed which authorised the Permit review Board.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:57:11 PM EDT
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What is the purpose of a waiting period anyway, I've never understood that.
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Brady got shot.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 1:58:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aiden:
What is the purpose of a waiting period anyway, I've never understood that.
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So in case you were pissed at someone, you would run the store - buy a gun and shoot someone. They figured after three days your homicidal rage would subside.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 2:01:28 PM EDT
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So in case you were pissed at someone, you would run the store - buy a gun and shoot someone. They figured after three days your homicidal rage would subside.
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Originally Posted By Aiden:
What is the purpose of a waiting period anyway, I've never understood that.


So in case you were pissed at someone, you would run the store - buy a gun and shoot someone. They figured after three days your homicidal rage would subside.


Which, of course, is why it even applies when you already have guns a home.

Its like when Walmart escorts you out with ammo while you are CCWing.

It's logic best understood by placing your head firmly up your ass and seeing the world from that perspective.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 2:05:56 PM EDT
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