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Posted: 1/5/2010 4:40:59 PM EST

I loved the movie but its certainly not an original story like many say.

Posted: 1/5/2010 4:42:24 PM EST

[#1]

lol

Posted: 1/5/2010 4:44:23 PM EST

[#2]

mostly true

Posted: 1/5/2010 4:47:54 PM EST

[#3]

Wow, its sad because its true.

Posted: 1/5/2010 4:48:24 PM EST

[#4]

Wow. That's dead on.

Posted: 1/5/2010 4:55:07 PM EST

[#5]

you got it all wrong .... it was "dances with wolves" in outerspace with 10 foot tall blue people

the 3d kicked ass, and although i would break my own rules about not tapping anything with a tail .... i'd hit it,

Posted: 1/5/2010 4:57:14 PM EST

[#6]

Hmm. I haven't seen anyone that thinks it's original.

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Posted: 1/5/2010 4:57:28 PM EST

[#7]

There are only a few great stories, and many variations of them. Almost any movie/book/tall tale that has any quality these days is a recycled idea

Posted: 1/5/2010 5:05:12 PM EST

[#8]

Quoted:
There are only a few great stories, and many variations of them. Almost any movie/book/tall tale that has any quality these days is a recycled idea

Some truth to that... but it in no way excuses Cameron for his childish unimaginative predictable cartoon bad script. Unobtainium for goodness sake, now that is creative in a three year old with a blunt weapon sort of way.

Make a visually stunning movie and the cripple it with a script not worthy of a Scooby-Doo episode.

Posted: 1/5/2010 5:29:55 PM EST

[#9]

Quoted:

http://i46.tinypic.com/iyo0tt.jpg

I loved the movie but its certainly not an original story like many say.

Who ever said it was original?

Posted: 1/5/2010 5:30:35 PM EST

[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:

http://i46.tinypic.com/iyo0tt.jpg

I loved the movie but its certainly not an original story like many say.

Who ever said it was original?

Dumb assed movie reviwers

Posted: 1/5/2010 5:52:53 PM EST

[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
There are only a few great stories, and many variations of them. Almost any movie/book/tall tale that has any quality these days is a recycled idea

Some truth to that... but it in no way excuses Cameron for his childish unimaginative predictable cartoon bad script. Unobtainium for goodness sake, now that is creative in a three year old with a blunt weapon sort of way.

Make a visually stunning movie and the cripple it with a script not worthy of a Scooby-Doo episode.

And it would have worked too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

Posted: 1/5/2010 5:56:03 PM EST

[#12]

ha ha!! awesome!!

Posted: 1/6/2010 10:36:50 AM EST

[#13]

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Posted: 1/6/2010 10:41:43 AM EST

[#14]

Movie sucked balls.

The 3D wasn't even very good. It looked just like Journey to the Center of the Earth and all the other "digital 3D" movies I've seen in the last few years.

Not a single fucking original thing in the steaming pile of shit.

Posted: 1/6/2010 10:52:12 AM EST

[#15]

Posted: 1/6/2010 10:55:14 AM EST

[#16]

Quoted:

Posted: 1/6/2010 10:57:31 AM EST

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
There are only a few great stories, and many variations of them. Almost any movie/book/tall tale that has any quality these days is a recycled idea

Some truth to that... but it in no way excuses Cameron for his childish unimaginative predictable cartoon bad script. Unobtainium for goodness sake, now that is creative in a three year old with a blunt weapon sort of way.

Make a visually stunning movie and the cripple it with a script not worthy of a Scooby-Doo episode.

It was a piss poor story, but he knows what sells. The movie would probably be just as successful with no plot at all.

Posted: 1/6/2010 11:02:40 AM EST

[#18]

Quoted:

It was a piss poor story, but he knows what sells. The movie would probably be just as successful with no plot at all.

I might have been able to put up with an hour of nothing but vistas and panoramas with some decent music.

I thought the visuals were spectacular, I didn't pay attention to the story.

Posted: 1/6/2010 11:04:15 AM EST

[#19]

The thing that is so sad is that it could have been so good.

Have the balls to kill off Sully - but not until the blue chick is pregnant. The sacrifice of Sully could be the vehicle for detente between the humans and the Navi.

Make the Colonel a more complex, nuanced, morally torn character who is doing a job that he doesn't always enjoy. Have the army split between former .mil guys who are doing what is right (defending the indigenous) and mercs who just want to get paid and don't care.

Make the blue chick the leader of the Navi at the end, and Sigourney Weaver lives and becomes leader of the human contingent, after she becomes a full-time Avatar and member of the Navi.

Get rid of the idea that the Navi are noble savages - that cliched card has been played out, and more morally ambiguous characters are engaging - look at The Dark Knight if you need examples - shit, Jim Cameron, look at Sarah Connor!

And get rid of all the green, liberal, humans are racist, not-so-subtle propaganda. Philosophically conservative films blockbusters make: The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Spiderman, 300. America hates liberal garbage - they'll spend money on it if it has good special effects (Star Wars 1-3), but it'll never be a classic.

And this movie could have been a classic.

Posted: 1/6/2010 11:09:18 AM EST

[#20]

Quoted:
The thing that is so sad is that it could have been so good.

Have the balls to kill off Sully - but not until the blue chick is pregnant. The sacrifice of Sully could be the vehicle for detente between the humans and the Navi.

Make the Colonel a more complex, nuanced, morally torn character who is doing a job that he doesn't always enjoy. Have the army split between former .mil guys who are doing what is right (defending the indigenous) and mercs who just want to get paid and don't care.

Make the blue chick the leader of the Navi at the end, and Sigourney Weaver lives and becomes leader of the human contingent, after she becomes a full-time Avatar and member of the Navi.

Get rid of the idea that the Navi are noble savages - that cliched card has been played out, and more morally ambiguous characters are engaging - look at The Dark Knight if you need examples - shit, Jim Cameron, look at Sarah Connor!

And get rid of all the green, liberal, humans are racist, not-so-subtle propaganda. Philosophically conservative films blockbusters make: The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Spiderman, 300. America hates liberal garbage - they'll spend money on it if it has good special effects (Star Wars 1-3), but it'll never be a classic.

And this movie could have been a classic.

I must say that I agree with you.

Posted: 1/6/2010 11:11:08 AM EST

[#21]

It actually is more closely related to Dune than Pocahontas

Posted: 1/6/2010 11:41:37 AM EST

[#22]

I can kind of see origionality in some things. Like the floating islands, the tree, even a very small portion of the storyline.

I didn't see the effects, someone lent me a bootleg copy. At first I thought I would like to see it in the theater but I couldn't subject myself to the propaganda, or whatever you want to call it, again. Plus it was just too dang long, but I don't like anything longer than 2 hours.

I'll bet the effects are cool!

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:21:19 PM EST

[#23]

Quoted:

I can kind of see origionality in some things. Like the floating islands, the tree, even a very small portion of the storyline.

I didn't see the effects, someone lent me a bootleg copy. At first I thought I would like to see it in the theater but I couldn't subject myself to the propaganda, or whatever you want to call it, again. Plus it was just too dang long, but I don't like anything longer than 2 hours.

I'll bet the effects are cool!

They are cool and worth seeing in my opinion.

As far as propaganda, I think you only see it if you want to.

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:32:02 PM EST

[#24]

I noticed something about the blue aliens. They look like Gargamel's cat caught Smurfette, raped her, and the blue aliens were the offspring.

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:34:57 PM EST

[#25]

The only reason "Dances with Wolves" trumped it with the story line, was that the indian chick was really white.

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:36:18 PM EST

[#26]

(in 3D)

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:37:38 PM EST

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:

The thing that is so sad is that it could have been so good.

Have the balls to kill off Sully - but not until the blue chick is pregnant. The sacrifice of Sully could be the vehicle for detente between the humans and the Navi.

Make the Colonel a more complex, nuanced, morally torn character who is doing a job that he doesn't always enjoy. Have the army split between former .mil guys who are doing what is right (defending the indigenous) and mercs who just want to get paid and don't care.

Make the blue chick the leader of the Navi at the end, and Sigourney Weaver lives and becomes leader of the human contingent, after she becomes a full-time Avatar and member of the Navi.

Get rid of the idea that the Navi are noble savages - that cliched card has been played out, and more morally ambiguous characters are engaging - look at The Dark Knight if you need examples - shit, Jim Cameron, look at Sarah Connor!

And get rid of all the green, liberal, humans are racist, not-so-subtle propaganda. Philosophically conservative films blockbusters make: The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Spiderman, 300. America hates liberal garbage - they'll spend money on it if it has good special effects (Star Wars 1-3), but it'll never be a classic.

And this movie could have been a classic.

I must say that I agree with you.

+1 Well said.

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:37:47 PM EST

[#28]

There are aspects of the story I could argue your assertion with but would be a spoiler.

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:37:50 PM EST

[#29]

Avatar has a derivitive story?

Holy Shit!

Stop the Mother Fuckin' Presses!

I had not heard of this.

This has not been discussed at all.

You should put a "BREAKING" in your thread title!

Posted: 1/6/2010 12:37:57 PM EST

[#30]

Quoted:

http://imgur.com/KPSJo.jpg

(in 3D)

Well played!

Posted: 1/6/2010 1:01:51 PM EST

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
http://imgur.com/KPSJo.jpg

(in 3D)

Well played!

Posted: 1/6/2010 1:04:10 PM EST

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
There are only a few great stories, and many variations of them. Almost any movie/book/tall tale that has any quality these days is a recycled idea

Some truth to that... but it in no way excuses Cameron for his childish unimaginative predictable cartoon bad script. Unobtainium for goodness sake, now that is creative in a three year old with a blunt weapon sort of way.

Make a visually stunning movie and the cripple it with a script not worthy of a Scooby-Doo episode.

This. Plus the UH-1 Hueys-with -pivoting-ducted-fans-instead-of-rotors make no freaking sense from an aerodynamics point of view....

Posted: 1/6/2010 1:04:26 PM EST

[#33]

Quoted:
I noticed something about the blue aliens. They look like Gargamel's cat caught Smurfette, raped her, and the blue aliens were the offspring.

Have you been spending too much time on 4chan?

Posted: 1/6/2010 1:06:23 PM EST

[#34]

What is 4chan?

Posted: 1/6/2010 1:10:14 PM EST

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I noticed something about the blue aliens. They look like Gargamel's cat caught Smurfette, raped her, and the blue aliens were the offspring.

Have you been spending too much time on 4chan?

Not at all. It's just that the movie has been compared to "Dances with Smurfs" and when I saw the blue cat-aliens the odd comparison came to mind.

Posted: 1/6/2010 1:11:52 PM EST

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
There are only a few great stories, and many variations of them. Almost any movie/book/tall tale that has any quality these days is a recycled idea

Some truth to that... but it in no way excuses Cameron for his childish unimaginative predictable cartoon bad script. Unobtainium for goodness sake, now that is creative in a three year old with a blunt weapon sort of way.

Make a visually stunning movie and the cripple it with a script not worthy of a Scooby-Doo episode.

It was a piss poor story, but he knows what sells. The movie would probably be just as successful with no plot at all.

agree 100%. i cam eout thinking it was an ok story that i have seen before (didnt actually make the connection to pocohontus but that analogy was spot on) but thought it was interesting and visually pleasing... and yeah, i'd tap that